Value of: Lane Hutson's contract extension on July 1st

[HuGo Sham]

Sure. Montreal is an awesome city. Tons to love.

Money talks though. Can Montreal (or any Canadian team) make up the difference in $ value? Could find out in the summer.

they can

He needs to go down to the AHL to learn how to play defense, but I think MTL can risk it and maybe give him a one-way.....

I don't see him as an integral piece on a contender, so if MTL becomes a playoff team, they could always trade him to a non-playoff team looking for some offense.

and the troll take of the thread award arrives on page 4

 

[BLNY]

Sure. Montreal is an awesome city. Tons to love.

Money talks though. Can Montreal (or any Canadian team) make up the difference in $ value? Could find out in the summer.

Easily.

Never mind how deep the pockets of the Habs and Leafs are, but the Canadian markets can get away with charging more for tickets than many US markets.

 

[Kegs]

A joke on Hutson about headfakes ahahah you are so hilarious ahahah.

It wasn’t a joke

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Dang 2 games to burn a whole year?? What a waste for Montreal... I'm surprised GMs allow this sort of stuff to happen....If i was a GM it wouldn't happen on my watch.

But did you know that he wouldn't be a RFA at the end of his ELC ?

Sure. Montreal is an awesome city. Tons to love.

Money talks though. Can Montreal (or any Canadian team) make up the difference in $ value? Could find out in the summer.

What ?

They're all paid in US $.

In fact, it means that they would get more for their US $ the more the Canadian $ goes down...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

I suppose that is right but we are talking about his new contract, right?

And ?

 

[EXTRAS]

If I'm lane there is no way I bridge here. The deal will start when he is 22.5 years old. If you sign a 3 year bridge then 8 that takes you to 33.5 and it could be hard to get another meaningful deal. I'd want a 5 or 6 year deal now so if he is still good around 27-28 it allows him to sign another big money 8 year deal. Quinn hughes got a 6 year deal.

He's playing just behind quinn hughes pace for his 1st year. I'd want something a little less than Hughes cap percentage if I was lane. If montreal wouldn't give it to me I'd play the 2nd year of the elc and try to match Hughes 2nd year pace to go after equal cap percentage.

 

[Heldig]

And ?

And he still may ask for extra because he is in Canada.

 

[VaporTrail]

But did you know that he wouldn't be a RFA at the end of his ELC ?


What ?

They're all paid in US $.

In fact, it means that they would get more for their US $ the more the Canadian $ goes down...

No i didn't... that seems odd

 

[ole ole]

It’s even funnier when the opposition mocks his head fakes.

It's looks really good he he head fakes the opposition in which he does a lot.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

No i didn't... that seems odd

That first season (2 pro games) does not constitute a "year". To be eligible for an offer sheet, a player must have 3 "years" under his belt.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

8x8 isn’t a big contract, if he is willing to sign for that you do it instantly. That’s borderline good second pairing guy money. The current elite guys like heiskanen, mcavoy etc will have two or three years left on their current deals by the time hutsons deal kicks in and will be getting paid 11-13 on the next one. makar will be signing for 13-15.

If he’s looking for 9 or 10 plus i think you may have to look at a bridge to see if he truly deserves #1 money.

Edit: guess the mcavoy and miro deals are more recent than i thought.

Nothing at all wrong with the quinn hughes or makar models, 6 years instead of 8 to keep the cap down

What are you talking about? Only 21 defensemen make $8million or more. It takes 64 players to make up top pairings across the NHL. You’d need 50+ dmen making $8million or more for your comment to make sense.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

Probably 8.5x7

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Back up the brinks truck. He can clearly score at a .67 ppg pace at a young age. Doesn’t matter if you can play him in the top 4 and expect to be competitive but boy he can shake and head fake.

8x11.5m similar to Karlsson.

Weird how Hutson will get paid for head faking only, I tried it at the bank and got arrested.

 

[ewfwgfwahbger]

Not to be that guy, but has there been any indication that he wants to return to the states? I know the taxes and social situations are drastically different between the states and Canada but I'm not sure/haven't seen if there is anything that indicates Lane feels one way or the other?

Nothing so far. The fans lick his boots. We will see where he goes to workout during the summer. There's a couple guys that stay in Montreal during the summer.

 

[Frank Drebin]

What are you talking about? Only 21 defensemen make $8million or more. It takes 64 players to make up top pairings across the NHL. You’d need 50+ dmen making $8million or more for your comment to make sense.

I guess i should have said lower end first pairing money, the elite number ones like makar and hughes will be making 12+

And a lot of the time the two highest paid guys don’t play together.

But yes. My bad

 

[Crazy8oooo]

I guess i should have said lower end first pairing money, the elite number ones like makar and hughes will be making 12+

And a lot of the time the two highest paid guys don’t play together.

But yes. My bad

On the other hand, if GMs continue handing out these big contracts for one good year, your assessment just might be right in just a few years.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Anything below 12 million is a steal.

 

[Kegs]

Weird how Hutson will get paid for head faking only, I tried it at the bank and got arrested.

I know we joke, but seriously his head fakes are on another level. Kids got a ton of skill. No denying it. If he doesn’t get hurt I do Predict a very long prosperous career.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

I know we joke, but seriously his head fakes are on another level. Kids got a ton of skill. No denying it. If he doesn’t get hurt I do Predict a very long prosperous career.

Oh yeah, the kid has kid has moves and has great offensive ability. They let me on this computer for 10 mins before I serve 6 months, see you in July.

 

[Kegs]

Oh yeah, the kid has kid has moves and has great offensive ability. They let me on this computer for 10 mins before I serve 6 months, see you in July.

#freeheadlicehatty

 

[MXD]

C'mon now, a CAD at 66 cents US won't have much of an impact on Montreal and Toronto.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

I'd be bridging him to see if he learns to pay in his own end before I pay him 8m.

Dude.

He is a baby-faced rookie and currently the 14th most productive defenseman in the league.

If he was a stud defensively on top of that, do you really think he'd sign an 8M per year contract?

 

[TT1]

reading ppl talk about his defensive play is funny, shows how little they've seen him play

 

[Petes2424]

What absolute horseshit lmao.

Sign him long term as soon as you can, unless you learned literally nothing from the Subban situation.

How so? The history of the sport supports every word I’ve said. Should’ve teams paid Sandis Ozolinsh like Ray Bourque? Steve Duchesne like Rob Blake? Tyson Barrie like Ryan McDonagh?

Hutson, if he can stay healthy, could very easily become this generation’s 1990s Paul Coffey. It’s the closest comparison to him right now. He was once the NHL’s best offensive weapon from the blue line, and just like Hutson, wouldn’t have played a single NHL game, if he was in the lineup to be a traditional dman.

Hutson is even at a disadvantage to that comparison because Coffey could’ve changed the way he played 4-5 years into a contract, if he really needed to. He just chose to never do so. Hutson will likely never have that choice. Out of pure necessity to survive, he’ll never be able to play the position in a traditional way, because of his body structure. You can only take so much punishment at under 160lbs. Your body will breakdown. You will end up concussed numerous times.

Detroit ended up trading Coffey, because they knew they couldn’t win Championships with him, and finally accepted they couldn’t hide him enough anymore. Scotty Bowman has talked about this. The NHL had started playing defensive systems. The wide open 1980s were over.

That team had Nick Lidstrom and Vladimir Konstantinov, and still couldn’t hide Coffey enough.

Those are facts. That’s the reality of having a Dman you wouldn’t have on your NHL team if not for his being an offensive weapon.

This isn’t a PK Subban situation, where he could’ve made the choice to work on his defensive game. This is a 155lb player, pushing 21, who can’t put on any muscle or weight. He’s at a massive physical disadvantage. This is no Quinn Hughes situation either. Quinn has 25-30lbs on Hutson, only being an inch taller. He’s a bulldozer.

Detroit literally replaced Coffey in their line-up, with Larry effen Murphy, who they got for free in a trade, because he’d become a pylon in Toronto. They ended up winning 3 Cups with Murphy in the lineup, instead of the best offensive dman of his generation.

Bottom line is, you win playoff rounds and Cups with great Dmen, who can be great at both ends of the ice. Not giving wealth contracts to offensive weapons on your blue line.

So Hutson is nothing new to the NHL.

Yes, he’s fun to watch on a team not in the mix. Let’s see how fun he is to watch in playoff games, when the game tightens up, and bodies are flying around. When guys 50, 60, 70lbs heavier, start taking shots at him.

Unfortunately for Montreal, they don’t have a Nick Lidstrom and Vladimir Konstantinov to hide Hutson, and those guys still, could only hide Coffey to a certain point.

Once again, you play the game to win Stanley Cups, not be the most exciting. There were many fans in Detroit irate they traded Coffey. He was fun to watch as well. Fans who couldn’t be found after they started winning Cups.

So if you don’t think Montreal is concerned with handing 8-10% of their cap to a player they can’t have on the ice during important minutes of a playoff game, you’re just not dealing in reality. They will try everything possible to bridge him and stall, until they’re forced to make a decision. All while they try finding ways to protect him.

They have to compete with Buffalo and Detroit handing wealth contracts to Seider, Power, Dahlin and Edvinsson, and Montreal fans are ready to hand that much of Montreal’s cap to someone you can’t put on the ice in 3rd Periods of 1 goal playoff games?

Once again, you play to win Cups, not be exciting in the regular season. If Hutson gets through a playoff defying all logic, hand him 12% of your cap. People would change their minds. That’s just not logically going to happen though.

 

[TheNumber4]

Obviously a burgeoning star deserves a burgeoning contract of $10M per. Lock this burgeon down already.