Player Discussion Lane Hutson: Part 3 - Calder Edition

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31 - Shayne Gostisbehere, Philadelphia Flyers;
2015-16 : 64 parties, 17 buts, 29 passes, 46 points (0,7188)
30 - Luke Hughes, New Jersey Devils;
2023-24 : 82 parties, 9 buts, 38 passes, 47 points (0,5732)
29 - Brock Faber, Minnesota Wild;
2023-24 : 82 parties, 8 buts, 39 passes, 47 points (0,5732)
28 - Paul Reinhart, Atlanta Flames;
1979-80 : 79 parties, 9 buts, 38 passes, 47 points (0,5949)
27 - Zach Werenski, Columbus Blue Jackets;
2016-17 : 78 parties, 11 buts, 36 passes, 47 points (0,6025)
26 - Brad Maxwell, Minnesota North Stars;
1977-78 : 75 parties, 18 buts, 29 passes, 47 points (0,6266)
25 - Tyler Myers, Buffalo Sabres;
2009-10 : 82 parties, 11 buts, 37 passes, 48 points (0,5854)
24 - Bryan Berard, New York Islanders;
1996-97 : 82 parties, 8 buts, 40 passes, 48 points (0,5854)
23 - Alexei Zhitnik, Los Angeles Kings;
1992-93 : 78 parties, 12 buts, 36 passes, 48 points (0,6154)
22 - Dion Phaneuf, Calgary Flames;
2005-06 : 82 parties, 20 buts, 29 passes, 49 points (0,5975)
21 - Behn Wilson, Philadelphia Flyers;
1978-79 : 80 parties, 13 buts, 36 passes, 49 points (0,6125)
20 - Brian Benning, St. Louis Blues;
1986-87 : 78 parties, 13 buts, 36 passes, 49 points (0,6282)
19 - Moritz Seider, Detroit Red Wings;
2021-22 : 82 parties, 7 buts, 43 passes, 50 points (0,6098)
18 - Cale Makar, Colorado Avalanche;
2019-20 : 57 parties, 12 buts, 38 passes, 50 points (0,8772)
17 - Jocelyn Guèvremont, Vancouver Canucks;
1971-72 : 75 parties, 13 buts, 38 passes, 51 points (0,6800)
16 - Vladimir Malakhov, New York Islanders;
1992-93 : 64 parties, 14 buts, 38 passes, 52 points (0,8125)
15 - Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks;
2019-20 : 68 parties, 8 buts, 45 passes, 53 points (0,7794)
14 - Denis Potvin, New York Islanders;
1973-74 : 77 parties, 17 buts, 37 passes, 54 points (0,7013)
13 - Reijo Ruotsalainen, New York Rangers;
1981-82 : 78 parties, 18 buts, 38 passes, 56 points (0,7179)
12 - Dale Tallon, Vancouver Canucks;
1970-71 : 78 parties, 14 buts, 42 passes, 56 points (0,7179)
11 - Stefan Persson, New York Islanders;
1977-78 : 66 parties, 6 buts, 50 passes, 56 points (0,8485)
10 - Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit Red Wings;
1991-92 : 80 parties, 11 buts, 49 passes, 60 points (0,7500)
9 - Reed Larson, Detroit Red Wings;
1977-78 : 75 parties, 19 buts, 41 passes, 60 points (0,8000)
8 - Barry Beck, Colorado Rockies;
1977-78 : 75 parties, 22 buts, 38 passes, 60 points (0,8000)
7 - Lane Hutson : 74 parties, 5 buts, 57 passes et 62 points (0,8378ppg) à date en 24-25
6 - Chris Chelios, Montréal Canadiens;
1984-85 : 74 parties, 9 buts, 55 passes, 64 points (0,8648)
5 -Raymond Bourque, Boston Bruins;
1979-80 : 80 parties, 17 buts, 48 passes, 65 points (0,8125)
4 - Phil Housley, Buffalo Sabres;
1982-83 : 77 parties, 19 buts, 47 passes, 66 points (0,8571)
3 - Gary Suter, Calgary Flames;
1985-86 : 80 parties, 18 buts, 50 passes, 68 points (0,8500)
2 - Brian Leetch, New York Rangers;
1988-89 : 68 parties, 23 buts, 48 passes, 71 points (1,0441)
1 - Larry Murphy, Los Angeles Kings;
1980-81 : 80 parties, 16 buts, 60 passes 76 points (0,9500)
I appreciate the list but I simply put them on ignore. lol
 
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Yeah but I wonder how we can get rid of him. Shall we sacrifice Mailloux to get a second-line center? Mailloux + Matheson = ??
We can easily trade him his salary is minimal with the cap going up , we also will have all our retaining salary back from Petry and Allen.

I dont see Mailloux as a nhler anyways , cant play defensively and he is slow. Could be working a top 4 dman + a center this offseason

alslo id pay 11x8 to Hutson right now.
 
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Hutson is now heavily favored to win the Calder on pretty much every betting sites. -800 with 10 games left pretty much means it's a done deal, any debate now is kinda pointless
 
We can easily trade him his salary is minimal with the cap going up , we also will have all our retaining salary back from Petry and Allen.

I dont see Mailloux as a nhler anyways , cant play defensively and he is slow. Could be working a top 4 dman + a center this offseason

alslo id pay 11x8 to Hutson right now.
Can you build a roster for next year without Matheson? Perhaps adding ROR and Andersson?
 
We can easily trade him his salary is minimal with the cap going up , we also will have all our retaining salary back from Petry and Allen.

I dont see Mailloux as a nhler anyways , cant play defensively and he is slow. Could be working a top 4 dman + a center this offseason

alslo id pay 11x8 to Hutson right now.

Both Mailloux and Roy need to be included in the trade package. Matheson is the only realistic cap dump in a trade. As for Hutson, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a haircut and signs for only 9.5-10AAVx8 if Hughes can sell him on the team building POV
 
Can you build a roster for next year without Matheson? Perhaps adding ROR and Andersson?
Easily with Demidov joining , we will 99% find a second center this offseason. Not a big fan of those 2 names. We have enough draft picks and prospect to make a splash for a top 4 dman and a top 6 center.

Looking like a Horvat type of center with another Guhle type of d-man

trade 1st picks , Roy , Mailloux , Busar , Anything you need to make the trade. Even Hage if the return is worth it.
 
Easily with Demidov joining , we will 99% find a second center this offseason. Not a big fan of those 2 names. We have enough draft picks and prospect to make a splash for a top 4 dman and a top 6 center.

Looking like a Horvat type of center with another Guhle type of d-man

trade 1st picks , Roy , Mailloux , Busar , Anything you need to make the trade. Even Hage if the return is worth it.
Is Cernak in tampa bay out of reach or not a good target (big mean d-man)?
 
Easily with Demidov joining , we will 99% find a second center this offseason. Not a big fan of those 2 names. We have enough draft picks and prospect to make a splash for a top 4 dman and a top 6 center.

Looking like a Horvat type of center with another Guhle type of d-man

trade 1st picks , Roy , Mailloux , Busar , Anything you need to make the trade. Even Hage if the return is worth it.

I don't think they should go get a Dman until they know what they have with a season with Reinbacher. Not just him but the overall composition of the D core next season without Savard and maybe Matheson. That'll give you a better evaluation on what type of player you need to best compliment the D core.

The 2C is different because even a blind monkey can see there's a massive hole there that needs to be filled. Plus they specifically need to get a centre for Demidov whereas no one specifically NEEDS a D partner (for now)
 
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Lol and who will take Matherson minute ? Right now, noone on Habs roster can do better than him

You gotta think like Brad Pitt in Moneyball. It's not about one person replacing his minutes but about a few players replacing it. Reinbacher will get more minutes than Savard. Bump up Guhles minutes. Xhekaj can take some PK time. So collectively they'll be able to replace Mathesons minutes imo
 
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Both Mailloux and Roy need to be included in the trade package. Matheson is the only realistic cap dump in a trade. As for Hutson, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a haircut and signs for only 9.5-10AAVx8 if Hughes can sell him on the team building POV
IF Hughes uses Hutson as the new Cap maximum for a player on the Habs, he needs to tread carefully and consider how much Demidov might be looking for if he turns out to be the real deal.

Otherwise, Hughes loses all credibility if he gets Hutson to take a haircut and ends up paying Demidov significantly more.

IMO, Hutson is a franchise player and Demidov might also be one as well (will be, according to Bob Hartley who has seen him play a lot).

Suzuki's Cap hit of 7.875M was 8.9% of the Cap ceiling when he signed it.

If Hutson and Demidov are franchise players, for argument's sake, what should their percentage of the Cap ceiling be? 12%? 15%

If Hutson signed at 12% for after next year, when the Cap is at 104M, that would be roughly 12.5M (12.48M). It's hard to imagine what the Cap ceiling will be in four years, the first year of Demidov's second NHL contract, but it shouldn't be lower than 113.5M, so Demidov's next contract could come with a Cap hit that sits at roughly 13.5M (13.62M)!

Hutson: 12.5M
Demidov: 13.5M
Suzuki: 7,875M
Caufield: 7.85M
Slafkovsky: 7.6M
Guhle: 5.55M

Total for 6 players: 54.875M of 113.5M, or roughly 48.35% of the Cancelling for23players and the injury reserve allotment.

So, basicallly, a 3.45M average per player for the 17 remaining players to have signed.

By the time Demidov signs his 2nd NHL contract 3.45M will likely be 4th line money, will definitely be 3rd pairing D money, at least and likely not enough money for a backup Goalie.
 
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IF Hughes uses Hutson as the new Cap maximum for a player on the Habs, he needs to tread carefully and consider how much Demidov might be looking for if he turns out to be the real deal.

Otherwise, Hughes loses all credibility if he gets Hutson to take a haircut and ends up paying Demidov significantly more.

IMO, Hutson is a franchise player and Demidov might also be one as well (will be, according to Bob Hartley who has seen him play a lot).

Suzuki's Cap hit of 7.875M was 8.9% of the Cap ceiling when he signed it.

If Hutson and Demidov are franchise players, for argument's sake, what should their percentage of the Cap ceiling be? 12%? 15%

If Hutson signed at 12% for after next year, when the Cap is at 104M, that would be roughly 12.5M (12.48M). It's hard to imagine what the Cap ceiling will be in four years, the first year of Demidov's second NHL contract, but it shouldn't be lower than 113.5M, so Demidov's next contract could come with a Cap hit that sits at roughly 13.5M (13.62M)!

Hutson: 12.5M
Demidov: 13.5M
Suzuki: 7,875M
Caufield: 7.85M
Slafkovsky: 7.6M
Guhle: 5.55M

Total for 6 players: 54.875M of 113.5M, or roughly 48.35% of the Cancelling for23players and the injury reserve allotment.

So, basicallly, a 3.45M average per player for the 17 remaining players to have signed.

By the time Demidov signs his 2nd NHL contract 3.45M will likely be 4th line money, will definitely be 3rd pairing D money, at least and likely not enough money for a backup Goalie.
Those guys have RFA years... I just can't see them getting 12 mil off the bat. I think you're far more likely to see them get 7.8.
 
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When teams rebuild, they want to draft "franchise players" with high pick.

Habs get a franchise player in Lane Hutson with #62 pick and much likely another with Ivan Demidov.

The rebuild of Habs have been fantastic, Demidov and Hutson are that type of players we want with a top 1-2 pick in a lot of good drafts.
 
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He’s currently 4th in the NHL in takeaways. Slavin, Marner, and Makar are the players ahead of him. Not too bad for a player that wasn’t expected to be good defensively.

I kept hearing Bergeron attached to suzuki's name over the past few years. How was he not expected to be good defensively?
 
Stuff you still read on the main boards :

Shayne Ghostisbere had a better rookie season than Hutson.

Its been a funny evolution in that thread. It started with other fans laughing at the Habs and Hutson, and now it's evolved to "oh my god, we have to hear about this guy for 15 years".

But you still have the odd critic. The latest one I saw was criticizing his assist totals, so they have clearly run out of ammo.
 

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