Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[Lafleurs Guy]

Please show me which past cup champions team in the last 20 years had a guy like caufield as a sniper? Caufield is a complement to a 2nd line, he cant win 1v1 battles and in playoffs he will have even less time than now.

“A guy like Caufield as a sniper” - so now you’re going to argue that there are no five foot seven snipers who’ve won cups… guess what? I doesn’t matter. The keyword here is ‘sniper’.

I don’t give a shit how big he is, he scores goals. And he had no issues doing it as a raw rookie in the playoffs.

Scoring goals wins you cups. That’s how it works. At the end of the game you tally up the goals scored and the team who scored the most wins the game.

Mike Bossy, Guy Lafleur, Geordie Howe, Martin St Louis, Jaromir Jagr, Rocket Richard, Alex Ovechkin, Patrick Kane…all played very different games from one another. Each were unique and played their own way. But they all scored goals and all won cups doing it. At the end of the day what matters is if you can put the puck in the net or not.

As I said, CC is mostly unproven. I’m certainly not saying he’s the next Mike Bossy. But there’s every indication that he could be a premier scorer in this league. That’s not something you dump or cast off. Goals are the single most important thing a skater can contribute - I don’t think you’re placing enough value on this.

 

[Trenbohabs]

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“A guy like Caufield as a sniper” - so now you’re going to argue that there are no five foot seven snipers who’ve won cups… guess what? I doesn’t matter. The keyword here is ‘sniper’.

I don’t give a shit how big he is, he scores goals. And he had no issues doing it as a raw rookie in the playoffs.

Scoring goals wins you cups. That’s how it works. At the end of the game you tally up the goals scored and the team who scored the most wins the game.

Mike Bossy, Guy Lafleur, Geordie Howe, Martin St Louis, Jaromir Jagr, Rocket Richard, Alex Ovechkin, Patrick Kane…all played very different games from one another. Each were unique and played their own way. But they all scored goals and all won cups doing it. At the end of the day what matters is if you can put the puck in the net or not.

As I said, CC is mostly unproven. I’m certainly not saying he’s the next Mike Bossy. But there’s every indication that he could be a premier scorer in this league. That’s not something you dump or cast off. Goals are the single most important thing a skater can contribute - I don’t think you’re placing enough value on this.

obviously you dont differiencate playoff hockey than regular season hockey. Caufield scored most of his goals short side in the left circle this year, but generated almost no offense other than that. it is WAY harder to score in playoffs. I trade Caufield for a bigger winger that can make 70 pts anyday of the week. Debrincat was a 40 goals scorer but got traded 2 times, because hes almost unidimentionnal.

Goaltending, overall defense, opportunist and luck wins you cups, a lineup of 12 caufield would get destroyed vs 12 matt tkatchuk in playoffs hockey. have a good day

 

[Trenbohabs]

I didn't watch a whole lot of Hutson in the NCAA...but based on everything I read, I thought he was going to be terrible defensively.

He's anything but...yes, he'll lose some physical confrontations, but he's so smart on the ice and understands leverage and body positioning at a high level.

His defensive instincts, on this team, right now, are second to none.

Good point! He's the guy that gets scored the least on it seems, all that while playing with a 9th D in the NHL Savard. Imagine this guys ceiling if we can develop reinbacher into a pietrangelo to play with him.

 

[expy]

I didn't watch a whole lot of Hutson in the NCAA...but based on everything I read, I thought he was going to be terrible defensively.

He's anything but...yes, he'll lose some physical confrontations, but he's so smart on the ice and understands leverage and body positioning at a high level.

His defensive instincts, on this team, right now, are second to none.

He's not the most defensive player for sure, but the thing he has, is compete...
He doesn't ever give up on a play and he's always hustling north-south no matter what.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

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obviously you dont differiencate playoff hockey than regular season hockey. Caufield scored most of his goals short side in the left circle this year, but generated almost no offense other than that. it is WAY harder to score in playoffs. I trade Caufield for a bigger winger that can make 70 pts anyday of the week. Debrincat was a 40 goals scorer but got traded 2 times, because hes almost unidimentionnal.

Goaltending, overall defense, opportunist and luck wins you cups, a lineup of 12 caufield would get destroyed vs 12 matt tkatchuk in playoffs hockey. have a good day

2 of his 10 goals were from coming down the right side on a rush against 1 or 2 defenders, from afar.

He's had 2 goals from close to the net.

Stop it with your ridicule reductions to creative a narrative. You just show your ignorance and bias.

 

[Trenbohabs]

2 of his 10 goals were from coming down the right side on a rush against 1 or 2 attackers, from afar.

He's had 2 goals from close to the net.

Stop it with your ridicule reductions to creative a narrative. You just show your ignorance and bias.

Maybe if you watched more than 3 games you would realise he scored 5 goals short sided, 1 off the rebound for a tap in, his goal yesterday was low pad off the rush. Show me the other goals expert guy

CAUFIELD IS NOT A 1ST LINER

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The main and pretty much only bright spot on the Habs.

I expected his defensive play to be less, so pleasantly surprised by that still

 

[Trenbohabs]

He kept a 17.7 s% for 83 consecutive games. His shooting% will normalize, but I doubt it will be lower than 18-20% (which is also what he had when he finished with 8 goals in 9 games at the end of last season), which should give him at least 50 goals.

yea at least 50 goals for our superstar Caufield, 42 will be shortsided he shouldve signed for 11M a year he will bring us a cup

 

[CDN24]

Please show me which past cup champions team in the last 20 years had a guy like caufield as a sniper? Caufield is a complement to a 2nd line, he cant win 1v1 battles and in playoffs he will have even less time than now.

Maybe not in the last 20 yrs but some of us are old enough to remember a 5ft 7" 172 lb sniper with his number in the rafters, 8 cup rings, a Conn Smythe. Good thing Mgmt back in the day didn't give up on the Road runner after putting up goal totals of 7, 18, 25 in his 1st 3 seasons. He went on to lead the habs in goals in 68-69, 70-71, 71-72 and 73-74. He was 2nd 2 some guy named Beliveau a few more years.

Not saying Caulfield is the road runner but we finally have a guy who may be a legit sniper for the 1st time in 40 yrs lets not trade him for Turner Stevenson just yet.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Please show me which past cup champions team in the last 20 years had a guy like caufield as a sniper? Caufield is a complement to a 2nd line, he cant win 1v1 battles and in playoffs he will have even less time than now.

We've already seen Caufield in the playoffs and he was one of our most lethal point producers. He's only gotten better as an offensive player since then.

 

[Rapala]

This is the Lane Hutson thread right.
I just want to say how impressed I am with Lane's maturity since he called himself out.
Too bad about most of the rest of the team.

 

[Benstheman]

This is the Lane Huson thread right.
I just want to say how impressed I am with Lane's maturity since he called himself out.
Too bad about most of the rest of the team.

Man i also am impressed with his compete level and defensive awareness. I was afraid his defensive side would prevent him from being a solid top 4. But man i was so wrong about that. i don't he will ever be a top defensive player but only being good in his case, will give him the opportunities to show his creative talent more often. I'm so happy about that.

Now for me, the only thing that can prevent him from being a star in this league is injuries. But so far so good.

 

[Team_Spirit]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852370309724213265

 

[overlords]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852370309724213265

I thought matheson would be up there but I suppose they only count the passes that are dangerous to the opposing team

 

[Rapala]

Man i also am impressed with his compete level and defensive awareness. I was afraid his defensive side would prevent him from being a solid top 4. But man i was so wrong about that. i don't he will ever be a top defensive player but only being good in his case, will give him the opportunities to show his creative talent more often. I'm so happy about that.

Now for me, the only thing that can prevent him from being a star in this league is injuries. But so far so good.

The thing we can all hang our hats on is Lane will not be a problem with the proper support.
Savard isn't it but the fact that he can look good with him in some games is encouraging in itself.

 

[Benstheman]

The thing we can all hang our hats on is Lane will not be a problem with the proper support.
Savard isn't it but the fact that he can look good with him in some games is encouraging in itself.

Absolutely. That's what elite players do. They don't need to rely on other players to be good. I'm absoluetly thrilled by this kind of player.

And i hope Demidov becomes that kind of player to.

 

[Canadienna]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852382648124965005

He's got a great attitude and work ethic.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Better than I would expected for his rookie year.

I'm very impressive by with game so far.

He is not just really good on offense, but he play really well at defensive zone aswell. Yess, sometimes he will makes mistakes, but he have the hard work to try to repair his mistake. He is very fast minded player, high hockey IQ, elite passing ability, elite hands. This guy have everything.

Very special player right there!!

 

[Trenbohabs]

Maybe not in the last 20 yrs but some of us are old enough to remember a 5ft 7" 172 lb sniper with his number in the rafters, 8 cup rings, a Conn Smythe. Good thing Mgmt back in the day didn't give up on the Road runner after putting up goal totals of 7, 18, 25 in his 1st 3 seasons. He went on to lead the habs in goals in 68-69, 70-71, 71-72 and 73-74. He was 2nd 2 some guy named Beliveau a few more years.

Not saying Caulfield is the road runner but we finally have a guy who may be a legit sniper for the 1st time in 40 yrs lets not trade him for Turner Stevenson just yet.

Yes im glad we have a goal scorer. But trolls like Grate Colerful whatever think hes a playdriver, a guy that will make us win in playoffs. Caufield scored from alot of impossible angles, its amazing but i'll be patient and see him in playoffs when 6'4 defenseman dont give him an inch. These kind of people also think that Suzuki is our 1C for a cup, hes not. The building of the core started with slaf reinbacher and demidov, suzuki and caufield will be 2nd liners behind these all stars

“A guy like Caufield as a sniper” - so now you’re going to argue that there are no five foot seven snipers who’ve won cups… guess what? I doesn’t matter. The keyword here is ‘sniper’.

I don’t give a shit how big he is, he scores goals. And he had no issues doing it as a raw rookie in the playoffs.

Scoring goals wins you cups. That’s how it works. At the end of the game you tally up the goals scored and the team who scored the most wins the game.

Mike Bossy, Guy Lafleur, Geordie Howe, Martin St Louis, Jaromir Jagr, Rocket Richard, Alex Ovechkin, Patrick Kane…all played very different games from one another. Each were unique and played their own way. But they all scored goals and all won cups doing it. At the end of the day what matters is if you can put the puck in the net or not.

As I said, CC is mostly unproven. I’m certainly not saying he’s the next Mike Bossy. But there’s every indication that he could be a premier scorer in this league. That’s not something you dump or cast off. Goals are the single most important thing a skater can contribute - I don’t think you’re placing enough value on this.

So you're putting hall of famers and some of them are monsters physically in the same sentence of a 2nd line sniper at 5'7?

Kane is a superstar, top 5 american player ever, made everybody better, not even close to Caufield.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Yes im glad we have a goal scorer. But trolls like Grate Colerful whatever think hes a playdriver, a guy that will make us win in playoffs. Caufield scored from alot of impossible angles, its amazing but i'll be patient and see him in playoffs when 6'4 defenseman dont give him an inch. These kind of people also think that Suzuki is our 1C for a cup, hes not. The building of the core started with slaf reinbacher and demidov, suzuki and caufield will be 2nd liners behind these all stars

Like when he was scoring goals against Vegas and being one of our best players against Tampa in the cup final, or when he was setting up overtime winners against the big bad Jets?

 

[Trenbohabs]

Like when he was scoring goals against Vegas and being one of our best players against Tampa in the cup final, or when he was setting up overtime winners against the big bad Jets?

like he scored 4 goals, 8 assists with a -5 differential, got pushed around, won 15% of his 1v1 battles, gave the puck over, got hit, yes I remember i analysed every shift he made. Price and the defensive team effort got them there. If montreal had offense that year they couldve had a chance against tampa

 

[WeThreeKings]

like he scored 4 goals, 8 assists with a -5 differential, got pushed around, won 15% of his 1v1 battles, gave the puck over, got hit, yes I remember i analysed every shift he made. Price and the defensive team effort got them there. If montreal had offense that year they couldve had a chance against tampa

He played against the Jets, Vegas and Tampa.. bigger teams, especially on the back end, and was scoring big goals, making big plays.. He's proven it already, so trying to manufacture this reality where he won't be effective in the playoffs to discredit the player is silly.

He's been there.
He did it.
He was a rookie.

He's only better and stronger now.

 

[Trenbohabs]

He played against the Jets, Vegas and Tampa.. bigger teams, especially on the back end, and was scoring big goals, making big plays.. He's proven it already, so trying to manufacture this reality where he won't be effective in the playoffs to discredit the player is silly.

He's been there.
He did it.
He was a rookie.

He's only better and stronger now.

Jets were very bad defensively, theres a reason they got swept by a very bad team in Montreal. Caufield will never be able to win 1v1 battles, if you played at the junior major league level you would realise how hard it is to fight in corners against guys 40 pounds heavier and 6" taller. You dont win games with snipers, you win games with puck possession time, battles, gaining every inch you can, forechecking, hitting, blocking shots. Theres a reason no past cup champions had a 5'7 unidimentionnal sniper in their top 6. Next time you watch a habs game look carefully how painful it is for caufield to keep the puck while having a guy on his back and thats regular season.

Yesterday instead of blocking the wrister from the point he moved away and deflected it with his stick. Thats unacceptable

Suzuki was amazing in his first playoffs thought.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Jets were very bad defensively, theres a reason they got swept by a very bad team in Montreal. Caufield will never be able to win 1v1 battles, if you played at the junior major league level you would realise how hard it is to fight in corners against guys 40 pounds heavier and 6" taller. You dont win games with snipers, you win games with puck possession time, battles, gaining every inch you can, forechecking, hitting, blocking shots. Theres a reason no past cup champions had a 5'7 unidimentionnal sniper in their top 6. Next time you watch a habs game look carefully how painful it is for caufield to keep the puck while having a guy on his back and thats regular season.

Suzuki was amazing in his first playoffs thought.

Marchessault is like an inch taller and won the Conn Smythe like 18 months ago..

 

[Trenbohabs]

Marchessault is like an inch taller and won the Conn Smythe like 18 months ago..

He had the run of his life surrounded by an amazing group, but hes still a 60 pts player. I believe Marchessault is ALOT stronger on his stick and puck possession. Caufield is a pure goal scorer and marchessault is a more complete, better all around player. The Conn Smythe belonged to Eichel IMO also, and im from montreal