Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[Estimated_Prophet]

Quinn made his debut in his D1 season, he was already at Michigan during his draft year.
Quinn was 5'10 180 in his rookie season.
Quinn was 7th overall and honestly should have gone top 3 at the time, people using him to justify Lane is lazy they have very little in common.
Quinn played in the world's at 17 and wasn't on the ice for a goal against, for his size his defense was never in question. Quinn is a top 5 skater in the league which is paramount for smaller D.
Some of the takes here are nuts, look at it this way, Quinn, Fox, Makar, are all top 10 dmen and aren't big, they have set a precedent , so the fact that no team took lane in the 1st knowing size can be overcome to a point means teams either don't think his skill is enough to overcome the size, or they don't see a kid that weighs 155 pounds realistically getting to a better weight.

Spurgeon is who size wise he should expect to become.
Hockey is filled with kids like him who are held back by size and weight that play defense.
Hope I'm wrong but the NHL is much different than the NCAA.

You are overlooking the biggest difference between Lane and Makar/Q. Hughes/Fox. The other three were always elite skaters whereas skating is one of Hutson's most noticeable weaknesses. He has the puck skills and IQ of these three players but his development entirely hinges on making significant gains in strength and explosiveness/backskating.

I wouldn't bet against the kid but I would also be hesitant to bet on him as well. I know it is a boring take but we really do just have to wait and see. Those that are anointing him the next Cale Makar are just as ridiculous as those who are saying that he won't make it yet you can't entirely rule out either scenario.....I choose to enjoy the ride and am trying my best but failing to avoid interacting with the large contingent of hyperbolic/hot take agents that exist around here.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

I don't see where you guys see Hutson is not a good skater, he's a great skater, he might not be the fastest, but he can change directions on a dime, i have never seen a skater so agile and deceiving, he's more agile on his skates than Fox, Hughes or Makar, being a great skater is not only being fast.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I don't where you guys see Hutson is not a good skater, he's a great skater, he might not be the fastest, but he can change directions on a dime, i have never seen a skater so agile and deceiving, he's more agile on his skates than Fox, Hughes or Makar, being a great skater is not only being fast.

He’s just not explosive, for some reason people equate that to bad skating.

His explosiveness will improve with added strength to his lower body with more physical maturity and training. It’s almost the exact same thing people used to pin against Caufield and it’s now a strength in his game rather than a weakness.

 

[Favster]

He’s just not explosive, for some reason people equate that to bad skating.

His explosiveness will improve with added strength to his lower body with more physical maturity and training. It’s almost the exact same thing people used to pin against Caufield and it’s now a strength in his game rather than a weakness.

He also has technical flaws in his skating, he really needs to calm his upper body movement while hustling but yeah, his explosiveness should improve with added strength.

 

[morhilane]

I don't where you guys see Hutson is not a good skater, he's a great skater, he might not be the fastest, but he can change directions on a dime, i have never seen a skater so agile and deceiving, he's more agile on his skates than Fox, Hughes or Makar, being a great skater is not only being fast.

He has great mobility, but his skating backward needs improvement, his first steps aren't explosive enough and his straight line speed isn't that amazing (also a weird stance when trying to skate super fast in a straight line).

The question is always "can he improves it" and the answer is usually "we will see in two years".

 

[Habs Halifax]

He has great mobility, but his skating backward needs improvement, his first steps aren't explosive enough and his straight line speed isn't that amazing (also a weird stance when trying to skate super fast in a straight line).

The question is always "can he improves it" and the answer is usually "we will see in two years".

Agreed. What we see today is one darn good young player improving and performing. But make no mistake, if he turns into what we think he can, he has improvements to make in many areas.

I'd like to see him work on his shot. More muscle helps in many areas.... including his ability to deal with big/fast NHL players and also a better shot so he is a dual threat with shot/pass.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Ummm....no.

5'10" 165 lbs is scrawny for a hockey player, that is just an easily verified fact.

510 165 (legit)is on the smaller size for hockey players but at that size, you would look like a normal, fit adult. I certainly wouldn't turn away a prospective son in law for being that size....

Turris, Kane, Hopkins were all smaller than that in their early days.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Wow, 165-170lbs on a 5'10" frame is.......

Weedy.

If my eldest daughter brought someone like that home, I'd look to find ways to suggest she looks for a real man, not a boy. Unless that weedy boy is the next Cale Makar / Adam Fox, of course.

What you expect as a son-in-law:

What you'll most likely end up with as a son-in-law:

 

[Frank Drebin]

What you expect as a son-in-law:

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What you'll most likely end up with as a son-in-law:

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First guy is too skinny, he's like 6'1 170

 

[Sam de Mtl]

What you expect as a son-in-law:

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What you'll most likely end up with as a son-in-law:

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Damnit. Where is the leak?

The first one is my linkedin profile picture.

The second one was google streetview in front of my house.

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

You are overlooking the biggest difference between Lane and Makar/Q. Hughes/Fox. The other three were always elite skaters whereas skating is one of Hutson's most noticeable weaknesses. He has the puck skills and IQ of these three players but his development entirely hinges on making significant gains in strength and explosiveness/backskating.

I wouldn't bet against the kid but I would also be hesitant to bet on him as well. I know it is a boring take but we really do just have to wait and see. Those that are anointing him the next Cale Makar are just as ridiculous as those who are saying that he won't make it yet you can't entirely rule out either scenario.....I choose to enjoy the ride and am trying my best but failing to avoid interacting with the large contingent of hyperbolic/hot take agents that exist around here.

Fox might be elite with his change of directions, lateral skating, and he can be very deceptive in how he angles his body to create space, but he's far from an elite skater in terms of top-end speed and acceleration. If anything there are similarities in Hutson's skating with that of Fox.

 

[SlafySZN]

He also has technical flaws in his skating, he really needs to calm his upper body movement while hustling but yeah, his explosiveness should improve with added strength.

He does the upper body movement less than he was at the start of the season.

And he also looks faster.

Still has to improve but i see differences from the start of the season.

 

[durojean]

Quinn made his debut in his D1 season, he was already at Michigan during his draft year.
Quinn was 5'10 180 in his rookie season.
Quinn was 7th overall and honestly should have gone top 3 at the time, people using him to justify Lane is lazy they have very little in common.
Quinn played in the world's at 17 and wasn't on the ice for a goal against, for his size his defense was never in question. Quinn is a top 5 skater in the league which is paramount for smaller D.
Some of the takes here are nuts, look at it this way, Quinn, Fox, Makar, are all top 10 dmen and aren't big, they have set a precedent , so the fact that no team took lane in the 1st knowing size can be overcome to a point means teams either don't think his skill is enough to overcome the size, or they don't see a kid that weighs 155 pounds realistically getting to a better weight.

Spurgeon is who size wise he should expect to become.
Hockey is filled with kids like him who are held back by size and weight that play defense.
Hope I'm wrong but the NHL is much different than the NCAA.

The reason why Lane Hutson was not drafted in the first round is actually the same reason why Slafkovsky went 1st overall.

NHL scout are putting too much emphasis on size.

Big players have a plus value even if they are not there with skills/iq

Small players get a minus value even if they are superior to the average in term of skils and iq.

Also same reason why Caufield went 15 overall after breaking nearly all the records in goal scoring in his league.

 

[Draft]

What you expect as a son-in-law:

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What you'll most likely end up with as a son-in-law:

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I heard @Stive Morgan was single. I'm not sure about filling a shirt, but he sure can eat one.

 

[montreal]

He also has technical flaws in his skating, he really needs to calm his upper body movement while hustling but yeah, his explosiveness should improve with added strength.

He has great mobility, but his skating backward needs improvement, his first steps aren't explosive enough and his straight line speed isn't that amazing (also a weird stance when trying to skate super fast in a straight line).

The question is always "can he improves it" and the answer is usually "we will see in two years".

well said by both posters, you nailed it!

 

[Cournoyer12]

Agreed. What we see today is one darn good young player improving and performing. But make no mistake, if he turns into what we think he can, he has improvements to make in many areas.

I'd like to see him work on his shot. More muscle helps in many areas.... including his ability to deal with big/fast NHL players and also a better shot so he is a dual threat with shot/pass.

Milk, Anavar, and Olympic lifts! That should do it

 

[habsfan891]

First guy is too skinny, he's like 6'1 170

Ouch lol I'm 6'3 170

 

[WeThreeKings]

Ouch lol I'm 6'3 170

That used to be me.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Ouch lol I'm 6'3 170

hows the air up there

 

[SlafySZN]

 

[habsfan891]

hows the air up there

Lol cold

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Lol cold

Any spy balloons ?

 

[habsfan891]

Any spy balloons ?

Haha not lately

 

[WeThreeKings]

0 pts last night.

 

[Colezuki]

0 pts last night.

Confirmed bust