Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[Andy]

It's not very often that Lafleurs Guy is bullish about a prospect. When he is, he's often on the money.

 

[The Great Weal]

Friendly reminder that Quinn Hughes was getting manhandled every shift and was probably the worst defensive dman in the league in his sophomore year. Elite IQ/skating/skill will always make a player a successful NHLer. Obviously Hutson's skating is nowhere close to Hughes, but he does have the high end IQ and skill.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

It's not very often that Lafleurs Guy is bullish about a prospect. When he is, he's often on the money.

yeah, I’m pretty grumpy.

I was bullish on Price though.

 

[Habssince89]

Friendly reminder that Quinn Hughes was getting manhandled every shift and was probably the worst defensive dman in the league in his sophomore year. Elite IQ/skating/skill will always make a player a successful NHLer. Obviously Hutson's skating is nowhere close to Hughes, but he does have the high end IQ and skill.

Yeah if he has that high level of awareness then he'll probably protect himself well and find ways to give himself more space/time. Having a Q Hughes would be incredible, but lets be real even a poor man's QH would move the needle for the habs

 

[The Great Weal]

Yeah if he has that high level of awareness then he'll probably protect himself well and find ways to give himself more space/time. Having a Q Hughes would be incredible, but lets be real even a poor man's QH would move the needle for the habs

I'm not a fan of the Hughes comparison because Hughes's skating is probably top 5 in the league whereas Hutson's will never be. He can still be a great player based off of his IQ and skill.

 

[Habssince89]

I'm not a fan of the Hughes comparison because Hughes's skating is probably top 5 in the league whereas Hutson's will never be. He can still be a great player based off of his IQ and skill.

Well without worrying about QH, what do you think about Hutson's skating?

 

[The Great Weal]

Well without worrying about QH, what do you think about Hutson's skating?

Obviously there is room for improvement, but I don't see it being a downfall for him performing below expectations. Sometimes players with elite players will need to be exposed to more difficult competition in order to work on their flaws. Otherwise, they might develop the habit that these flaws aren't a big deal since they makeup for them with their elite skills.

 

[Ozmodiar]

It will certainly be part of the negotiations. Almost every big name NCAA prospect plays some games to burn a year of ELC.

Exactly, and it will have nothing to do with him being ready for it or not. He will negotiate an agreement to play in NHL games at the end of the season to burn one season of ELC control. Hughes already acknowledged two weeks ago that they plan to sign him at the conclusion of BU's season on his SICK podcast appearance that was hosted by Pierre McGuire and Jimmy Murphy

If he signs after the season his signing age will be 20. That contract won’t slide whether he plays or not. (Slides are for 18 and 19 yr olds) The year is burned when he signs.

Also, regarding the podcast - I believe Hughes mentioned Hutson starting his “professional career”. He’s a cagey one.

Hutson could sign an ATO (amateur try-out, like MacAvoy or Larkin did) with Laval and start there. He could also sign the ELC this season which would burn the year.

Cap nerds can feel free to correct or clarify.

When Caufield signed:

https://x.com/capfriendly/status/1375978873482018821?s=46&t=3S1UYEm6R67NmwSo2-MPQQ

 

[jfm133]

Hutson won't be ready for the AHL next year. The AHL is a more physical league than the NHL and there are bullies in this league always looking to hit young promising players. Remember KK having spleen injury because one of those idiots charged him at full speed.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Hutson won't be ready for the AHL next year. The AHL is a more physical league than the NHL and there are bullies in this league always looking to hit young promising players. Remember KK having spleen injury because one of those idiots charged him at full speed.

KK also remembers getting rocked by Zadorov and Eller … and an other Goon clipped him with an elbow at center ice. Can’t remember that scrub’s name tho. #97, played for the oilers.

Anyway, the AHL was more physical 15 years ago. That won’t be a concern now.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If he signs after the season his signing age will be 20. That contract won’t slide whether he plays or not. (Slides are for 18 and 19 yr olds) The year is burned when he signs.

Also, regarding the podcast - I believe Hughes mentioned Hutson starting his “professional career”. He’s a cagey one.

Hutson could sign an ATO (amateur try-out, like MacAvoy or Larkin did) with Laval and start there. He could also sign the ELC this season which would burn the year.

Cap nerds can feel free to correct or clarify.

When Caufield signed:

https://x.com/capfriendly/status/1375978873482018821?s=46&t=3S1UYEm6R67NmwSo2-MPQQ

As I said, I highly doubt he plays in Montreal this year. Cc didn’t, Roy didn’t and neither will Hutson.

 

[MarkJ]

Let's take our time with him. No rush. We got many defensemen. Just don't give him to Houle.

 

[Ozmodiar]

As I said, I highly doubt he plays in Montreal this year. Cc didn’t, Roy didn’t and neither will Hutson.

CC did play in Montreal after signing his ELC, no?

Signed his ELC, reported to Laval (it was pre-TDL), emergency call up to Habs.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

CC did play in Montreal after signing his ELC, no?

Signed his ELC, reported to Laval (it was pre-TDL), emergency call up to Habs.

Did he? I didn’t think so.

 

[jfm133]

Why not giving him to Houle? Struble was given to Houle. So tired of this BS.

Let's take our time with him. No rush. We got many defensemen. Just don't give him to Houle.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Did he? I didn’t think so.

10 games.

 

[HuGort]

I think everybody knows he is magnificent talent. People are wondering if he can stand the physical going. Especially in playoffs when he will be run and targeted

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

10 games.

I stand corrected.

 

[Ozmodiar]

I stand corrected.

either way, your original point stands.

 

[tooji]

10 games.

and then proceeded to be a key contributor to our covid cup run

 

[MarkJ]

Why not giving him to Houle? Struble was given to Houle. So tired of this BS.

I think Struble is doing better here than he was in laval(and I'm not saying he was bad there, he was our best D).

 

[jfm133]

Struble was the best D in Laval. I am so tired of this craziness about coaches making or breaking players. If Hutson is unable to make it to the NHL, it won't be because of poor coaching, Houle or MSL or anybody else. It's true for Hutson or any other young player. Struble came to Laval last year as a plug and play D. His transition was seamless, and it was the same from Laval to Montréal. He is good and was ready, that's it.

I think Struble is doing better here than he was in laval(and I'm not saying he was bad there, he was our best D).

 

[MarkJ]

Struble was the best D in Laval. I am so tired of this craziness about coaches making or breaking players. If Hutson is unable to make it to the NHL, it won't be because of poor coaching, Houle or MSL or anybody else. It's true for Hutson or any other young player. Struble came to Laval last year as a plug and play D. His transition was seamless, and it was the same from Laval to Montréal. He is good and was ready, that's it.

so I can't have an opinion on our development in Laval? I can't say I wish we'd be more disciplined, have some players play more than others? Trudeau regressed but that may be on him and not the coach.

 

[DAChampion]

Hutson won't be ready for the AHL next year. The AHL is a more physical league than the NHL and there are bullies in this league

This claim is often made but rarely backed up.

If Hutson is unable to make it to the NHL, it won't be because of poor coaching,

Well yeah, because MSL and Houle are not awful coaches.

 

[Goldthorpe]

No matter the burn year or not, I think Hutson will see some NHL playing time (and at the very least, training time) if he sign late in the season, if only because the brass will want to evaluate him starting from the big league. I agree that the AHL isn't the best for him giving his playstyle and limitations, so if by some "miracle" (it wouldn't be - just because of the game in each league is played some prospects are just more comfortable in the NHL) he proves to be ready for the big club, then we can skip this issue altogether.