Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

[Michel Beauchamp]

Sheesh, he’s definitely proven me wrong. Don’t think there’s any way he’s not the front runner for a Calder rn. One of the best starts to a career by a rookie defenseman ever. I’m sold.

Great of you to admit you were wrong.

If only more people had your self-confidence.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

How did he learn from these mistakes if he according to you never made them since he has "never sucked, not for 1 minute on the ice"?

Seems contradictory.

Every player makes mistakes even Makar and McDavid. It's how the player learns from the mistake. Sucking is making the same mistakes over and over and not learning from them like Nemec.

 

[Simon Nemec]

More half truths. Devils didn't have a spot to give Hutson this year because they didn't have a hutson type in the system to make room for.

You guys are still hanging on to the idea that him and seamus casey are similar type prospects, which just isn't true.

Seamus Casey had three goals and an assist in his first five games! Unfortunately he couldnt stick around because we brought back Pesce and Hughes; plus he only just turned 21, so no need to rush him!

From what Ive read it seems Casey and Hutson are similar-style players

 

[dgibb10]

Every player makes mistakes even Makar and McDavid. It's how the player learns from the mistake. Sucking is making the same mistakes over and over and not learning from them like Nemec.

Yes, and Hutson made a lot of mistakes in the first month of the season.

He has learned from them, picked his spots better and played more within the flow of an offense, and it has lead to vastly better results.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Every player makes mistakes even Makar and McDavid. It's how the player learns from the mistake. Sucking is making the same mistakes over and over and not learning from them like Nemec.

...Nemec is the same age as Slaf; all kinds of runway to progress...relax...

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Yes, and Hutson made a lot of mistakes in the first month of the season.

He has learned from them, picked his spots better and played more within the flow of an offense, and it has lead to vastly better results.

You are getting way too much hate lmao I don’t think they’re even reading your posts at this point

 

[GrandmaCookie]

Yes, and Hutson made a lot of mistakes in the first month of the season.

He has learned from them, picked his spots better and played more within the flow of an offense, and it has lead to vastly better results.

How many Habs game have you actually watched? Hutson was not doing « a lot » of mistake, I remember only a few times he was getting caught of guard but mostly it wasn’t a reoccurring theme. What I found he mostly improved on his using his teammates better, I taught from the beginning he needed to get more in tunes with them; he was doing play so fast.

 

[JIMVINNY]

Yes, and Hutson made a lot of mistakes in the first month of the season.

He has learned from them, picked his spots better and played more within the flow of an offense, and it has lead to vastly better results.

You're taking a lot of heat for opinions that you formed early and maybe held onto a little longer than was appropriate, but I do understand where you're coming from. I just want to know where you are NOW.

There was a lot of skepticism when he first showed up, and it was warranted. Even the most optimistic Habs fan had to admit there was a legitimate chance he'd bust. For fans of other teams, who hadn't seen as many of his highlights, his play for the first month or so would not have instilled a lot of confidence. Those of us who spent a bit more time watching highlights over the last two year were sure he'd figure it out, but even in my wildest dreams, I did not expect him to figure it out this quickly. So I don't resent fans of other teams being skeptical back in October and November, but the hesitation to admit that he's arrived has definitely led to some friction. It seems like you're willing to admit he's playing extremely well right now, but do you think he's capable of maintaining this? Or do you think the weaker play to start the season is the norm, and this is simply a hot streak?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

To some it is is a personal attack to suggest he has not been perfect every second of his NHL career.

And to others the concept of seeing statistics used is idk evil or something.

He struggled a lot in october as he figured things out, was a high event (but net positive a la current Karlsson) player in november/early december, and has been ELITE since then.

As you know I disagree with your take about his early play but this is has gone too far lmao

His play in 2025 has for sure been elite, trending toward being a top 10 D by next year if he continues this kind of play

 

[dgibb10]

You're taking a lot of heat for opinions that you formed early and maybe held onto a little longer than was appropriate, but I do understand where you're coming from. I just want to know where you are NOW.

There was a lot of skepticism when he first showed up, and it was warranted. Even the most optimistic Habs fan had to admit there was a legitimate chance he'd bust. For fans of other teams, who hadn't seen as many of his highlights, his play for the first month or so would not have instilled a lot of confidence. Those of us who spent a bit more time watching highlights over the last two year were sure he'd figure it out, but even in my wildest dreams, I did not expect him to figure it out this quickly. So I don't resent fans of other teams being skeptical back in October and November, but the hesitation to admit that he's arrived has definitely led to some friction. It seems like you're willing to admit he's playing extremely well right now, but do you think he's capable of maintaining this? Or do you think the weaker play to start the season is the norm, and this is simply a hot streak?

I think the weaker play earlier in the season was him figuring out what he can and can't get away with at the NHL level. At the time I was worried about the risk that he was forming bad habits, which if stuck would make him unfortunately ineffective (you can't succeed in the NHL trying to be superman every time you touch the puck).

None of his offensive generation since then seems unsustainable (Besides the weird amount of 5 on 3 opportunities MTL seems to have gotten since laine got healthy).

An elite offensive, high event player who generates more than he gives up seems 100% real.

Defense for guys like this can be volatile, so I expect hot and cold stretches or even years where he can be quite good or quite bad defensively. But an elite offensive generator.

His value will be maximized on a PP with 2 sniper wingers like he has rn, as opposed to if he's trying to fill like the Bouchard/Hamilton/Hedman cannon role from the point for a team who's running their PP touches through a Kucherov/McDavid/Hughes type, I don't think that is where he's best suited due to not having the shot threat.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

I think you may have skimmed over the original point he was making. This was if Lane Hudson started the year in NJ, he likely would have been sent down to the AHL

This isn't a shot at Hudson, nor does it speak to his talent. This is a position of NHL depth for the NJD that they could have afforded to send him down.

He also wouldn't be getting top pairing minutes and playing on PP1 in NJ, these facts may make you feel like he's trolling or rage baiting you, but they are quite simply facts.

People really struggle with the different teams have different strengths and different weaknesses and assume because Hudson is tearing the league a new A-hole on MTL that he'd be used the exact same if he was on a different team. This isn't true, he'd be used differently on different teams. He is on the exact right team for him to do what he's doing,

If Hutson started the year in New Jersey it would have been the same result, he would be your #1 D-man right now and there wouldn't even be a close 2nd. Nice try though.

 

[dgibb10]

As you know I disagree with your take about his early play but this is has gone too far lmao

His play in 2025 has for sure been elite, trending toward being a top 10 D by next year if he continues this kind of play

I will always err on the side of rewarding/crediting players for getting good results on good teams rather than excusing guys who get bad results on bad teams.

Maybe that will lead me off slightly in underrating some guys on the shit teams until they actually figure it out as a team, but in my mind a fan of a shit team could pick any player on said team and use the "it's not his fault" to justify his bad results.

 

[JIMVINNY]

I think the weaker play earlier in the season was him figuring out what he can and can't get away with at the NHL level. At the time I was worried about the risk that he was forming bad habits, which if stuck would make him unfortunately ineffective (you can't succeed in the NHL trying to be superman every time you touch the puck).

None of his offensive generation since then seems unsustainable (Besides the weird amount of 5 on 3 opportunities MTL seems to have gotten since laine got healthy).

An elite offensive, high event player who generates more than he gives up seems 100% real.

Defense for guys like this can be volatile, so I expect hot and cold stretches or even years where he can be quite good or quite bad defensively. But an elite offensive generator.

His value will be maximized on a PP with 2 sniper wingers like he has rn, as opposed to if he's trying to fill like the Bouchard/Hamilton/Hedman cannon role from the point for a team who's running their PP touches through a Kucherov/McDavid/Hughes type, I don't think that is where he's best suited due to not having the shot threat.

That's fair. Thanks for responding. I can't see him having years where he's "bad" defensively, but I'm sure there will be years where he's closer to 0 than he is to +40. I just don't think he's going to have as many double digit minus seasons as a guy like Karlsson did.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

I think the weaker play earlier in the season was him figuring out what he can and can't get away with at the NHL level. At the time I was worried about the risk that he was forming bad habits, which if stuck would make him unfortunately ineffective (you can't succeed in the NHL trying to be superman every time you touch the puck).

None of his offensive generation since then seems unsustainable (Besides the weird amount of 5 on 3 opportunities MTL seems to have gotten since laine got healthy).

An elite offensive, high event player who generates more than he gives up seems 100% real.

Defense for guys like this can be volatile, so I expect hot and cold stretches or even years where he can be quite good or quite bad defensively. But an elite offensive generator.

His value will be maximized on a PP with 2 sniper wingers like he has rn, as opposed to if he's trying to fill like the Bouchard/Hamilton/Hedman cannon role from the point for a team who's running their PP touches through a Kucherov/McDavid/Hughes type, I don't think that is where he's best suited due to not having the shot threat.

"Weaker play" = never happened
"Worried" = never happened
"Chance of forming bad habits" = never existed
"Quite good or bad defensively" = he was never bad defensively and never will be

He's acknowledging the offensive wizardry because it's undeniable. But he's sticking to his same old lies about the defensive part of Hutson's game and his debut, he refuses to admit it or has never actually watched him. Hutson is amaizing defensively. He will NEVER have a bad defensive year let alone a "quite bad" one.

This poster wants to paint Hutson as an offensive d-man. The truth is that Hutson is a complete 2 way defenseman wizard. He's a wizard on defense as well but you have to actually watch him to know that.

It's master level trolling.

 

[dgibb10]

That's fair. Thanks for responding. I can't see him having years where he's "bad" defensively, but I'm sure there will be years where he's closer to 0 than he is to +40. I just don't think he's going to have as many double digit minus seasons as a guy like Karlsson did.

If he's a net 0 with the amount of offense he generates, in my view that IS bad defensively.

I think people have weird standards for defense in that regard where they view offense as offense, and then defense as the difference between what you create and what you give up.

In my mind, the differential isn't relevant to defense.

D is what you give up
O is what you create

If Hutson is 80 goals for 80 against vs 60 goals for 65 against (made up numbers not meaningful), he's not better defensively in the 80-80 just because he has a better differential. it's the offense driving the difference there.

 

[dgibb10]

"Weaker play" = never happened
"Worried" = never happened
"Chance of forming bad habits" = never existed
"Quite good or bad defensively" = he was never bad defensively and never will be

He's acknowledging the offensive wizardry because it's undeniable. But he's sticking to his same old lies about the defensive part of Hutson's game and his debut, he refuses to admit it or has never actually watched him. Hutson is amaizing defensively. He will NEVER have a bad defensive year let alone a "quite bad" one.

This poster wants to paint Hutson as an offensive d-man. The truth is that Hutson is a complete 2 way defenseman wizard. He's a wizard on defense as well but you have to actually watch him to know that.

It's master level trolling.

Yeah anyway Hutson is very much near the bottom of the league in terms of what he gives up defensively on the year.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

If Hutson started the year in New Jersey it would have been the same result, he would be your #1 D-man right now and there wouldn't even be a close 2nd. Nice try though.

He definitely wouldn't be their #1 D-man because he wouldn't have gotten the chance to be. They would have been wrong to do it, but they absolutely would have sent him down.

Who would NJ take out of the lineup? Dillon, Siegenthaler or Luke Hughes to make room for him?

You seem to be struggling with the idea that not every team is built the same way.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Amazing season by him so far, Habs found a beauty here.

 

[Frank Drebin]

He definitely wouldn't be their #1 D-man because he wouldn't have gotten the chance to be. They would have been wrong to do it, but they absolutely would have sent him down.

Who would NJ take out of the lineup? Dillon, Siegenthaler or Luke Hughes to make room for him?

You seem to be struggling with the idea that not every team is built the same way.

Devils don’t have room for Hutson because they don’t have a Hutson to make room for

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

He definitely wouldn't be their #1 D-man because he wouldn't have gotten the chance to be. They would have been wrong to do it, but they absolutely would have sent him down.

Who would NJ take out of the lineup? Dillon, Siegenthaler or Luke Hughes to make room for him?

You seem to be struggling with the idea that not every team is built the same way.

Sorry but he's in a different class then those 3, and that would have been apparent to your team as well. He would have very rapidly stole the #1 spot in Jersey.

No team in the NHL would have sent him down, you're being disingenuous. I don't even think you have seen him play once.

Devils don’t have room for Hutson because they don’t have a Hutson to make room for

Exactly beautifully said. Ohh we didn't have room for Mario Lemieux because we had Izerman and Shanahan. Any team who would have Hutson would MAKE room no matter what.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Devils don’t have room for Hutson because they don’t have a Hutson to make room for

This is accurate as well. Maybe if they have him they don't sign Dillon but he's a different kind of D that the Devils sorely needed.

What doesn't change is the fact that he wouldn't be getting the minutes and PP time if he were on NJ.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Do you think players aren't trying to smash him into the boards every game?

These things were said about Gretzky for 20 years. Don’t worry about it.

 

[dgibb10]

You're a liar. There's no point in discussing further. You're just here to lie.

Out of 183 dmen in terms of how much they give up

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

This is accurate as well. Maybe if they have him they don't sign Dillon but he's a different kind of D that the Devils sorely needed.

What doesn't change is the fact that he wouldn't be getting the minutes and PP time if he were on NJ.

Bro gtfoh lol. He would be your number 1 d-man right now getting all the PP time. You're defense are bums compared to him.

 

[Frank Drebin]

This is accurate as well. Maybe if they have him they don't sign Dillon but he's a different kind of D that the Devils sorely needed.

What doesn't change is the fact that he wouldn't be getting the minutes and PP time if he were on NJ.

I'm just wondering where this Hutson on the Devils roster connection came from in the first place. Very bizarre.