Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

I think the weaker play earlier in the season was him figuring out what he can and can't get away with at the NHL level. At the time I was worried about the risk that he was forming bad habits, which if stuck would make him unfortunately ineffective (you can't succeed in the NHL trying to be superman every time you touch the puck).

None of his offensive generation since then seems unsustainable (Besides the weird amount of 5 on 3 opportunities MTL seems to have gotten since laine got healthy).

An elite offensive, high event player who generates more than he gives up seems 100% real.

Defense for guys like this can be volatile, so I expect hot and cold stretches or even years where he can be quite good or quite bad defensively. But an elite offensive generator.

His value will be maximized on a PP with 2 sniper wingers like he has rn, as opposed to if he's trying to fill like the Bouchard/Hamilton/Hedman cannon role from the point for a team who's running their PP touches through a Kucherov/McDavid/Hughes type, I don't think that is where he's best suited due to not having the shot threat.

"Weaker play" = never happened
"Worried" = never happened
"Chance of forming bad habits" = never existed
"Quite good or bad defensively" = he was never bad defensively and never will be

He's acknowledging the offensive wizardry because it's undeniable. But he's sticking to his same old lies about the defensive part of Hutson's game and his debut, he refuses to admit it or has never actually watched him. Hutson is amaizing defensively. He will NEVER have a bad defensive year let alone a "quite bad" one.

This poster wants to paint Hutson as an offensive d-man. The truth is that Hutson is a complete 2 way defenseman wizard. He's a wizard on defense as well but you have to actually watch him to know that.

It's master level trolling.

 

[dgibb10]

That's fair. Thanks for responding. I can't see him having years where he's "bad" defensively, but I'm sure there will be years where he's closer to 0 than he is to +40. I just don't think he's going to have as many double digit minus seasons as a guy like Karlsson did.

If he's a net 0 with the amount of offense he generates, in my view that IS bad defensively.

I think people have weird standards for defense in that regard where they view offense as offense, and then defense as the difference between what you create and what you give up.

In my mind, the differential isn't relevant to defense.

D is what you give up
O is what you create

If Hutson is 80 goals for 80 against vs 60 goals for 65 against (made up numbers not meaningful), he's not better defensively in the 80-80 just because he has a better differential. it's the offense driving the difference there.

 

[dgibb10]

"Weaker play" = never happened
"Worried" = never happened
"Chance of forming bad habits" = never existed
"Quite good or bad defensively" = he was never bad defensively and never will be

He's acknowledging the offensive wizardry because it's undeniable. But he's sticking to his same old lies about the defensive part of Hutson's game and his debut, he refuses to admit it or has never actually watched him. Hutson is amaizing defensively. He will NEVER have a bad defensive year let alone a "quite bad" one.

This poster wants to paint Hutson as an offensive d-man. The truth is that Hutson is a complete 2 way defenseman wizard. He's a wizard on defense as well but you have to actually watch him to know that.

It's master level trolling.

Yeah anyway Hutson is very much near the bottom of the league in terms of what he gives up defensively on the year.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

If Hutson started the year in New Jersey it would have been the same result, he would be your #1 D-man right now and there wouldn't even be a close 2nd. Nice try though.

He definitely wouldn't be their #1 D-man because he wouldn't have gotten the chance to be. They would have been wrong to do it, but they absolutely would have sent him down.

Who would NJ take out of the lineup? Dillon, Siegenthaler or Luke Hughes to make room for him?

You seem to be struggling with the idea that not every team is built the same way.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Amazing season by him so far, Habs found a beauty here.

 

[Frank Drebin]

He definitely wouldn't be their #1 D-man because he wouldn't have gotten the chance to be. They would have been wrong to do it, but they absolutely would have sent him down.

Who would NJ take out of the lineup? Dillon, Siegenthaler or Luke Hughes to make room for him?

You seem to be struggling with the idea that not every team is built the same way.

Devils don’t have room for Hutson because they don’t have a Hutson to make room for

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

He definitely wouldn't be their #1 D-man because he wouldn't have gotten the chance to be. They would have been wrong to do it, but they absolutely would have sent him down.

Who would NJ take out of the lineup? Dillon, Siegenthaler or Luke Hughes to make room for him?

You seem to be struggling with the idea that not every team is built the same way.

Sorry but he's in a different class then those 3, and that would have been apparent to your team as well. He would have very rapidly stole the #1 spot in Jersey.

No team in the NHL would have sent him down, you're being disingenuous. I don't even think you have seen him play once.

Devils don’t have room for Hutson because they don’t have a Hutson to make room for

Exactly beautifully said. Ohh we didn't have room for Mario Lemieux because we had Izerman and Shanahan. Any team who would have Hutson would MAKE room no matter what.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Devils don’t have room for Hutson because they don’t have a Hutson to make room for

This is accurate as well. Maybe if they have him they don't sign Dillon but he's a different kind of D that the Devils sorely needed.

What doesn't change is the fact that he wouldn't be getting the minutes and PP time if he were on NJ.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Do you think players aren't trying to smash him into the boards every game?

These things were said about Gretzky for 20 years. Don’t worry about it.

 

[dgibb10]

You're a liar. There's no point in discussing further. You're just here to lie.

Out of 183 dmen in terms of how much they give up

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

This is accurate as well. Maybe if they have him they don't sign Dillon but he's a different kind of D that the Devils sorely needed.

What doesn't change is the fact that he wouldn't be getting the minutes and PP time if he were on NJ.

Bro gtfoh lol. He would be your number 1 d-man right now getting all the PP time. You're defense are bums compared to him.

 

[Frank Drebin]

This is accurate as well. Maybe if they have him they don't sign Dillon but he's a different kind of D that the Devils sorely needed.

What doesn't change is the fact that he wouldn't be getting the minutes and PP time if he were on NJ.

I'm just wondering where this Hutson on the Devils roster connection came from in the first place. Very bizarre.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I knew he would be from training camp and put down $500 at 9 to 1 before the season started.

I don’t know what is so shocking about it tbh.

 

[dgibb10]

Devils don’t have room for Hutson because they don’t have a Hutson to make room for

If they had a Hutson what would you have done differently this offseason?

Not bring in Dillon I assume, who yes, Hutson is better than.

But who are you then having as your 4 to PK?

 

[Frank Drebin]

If they had a Hutson what would you have done differently this offseason?

Not bring in Dillon I assume, who yes, Hutson is better than.

But who are you then having as your 4 to PK?

I don’t build nhl rosters, but i assume if there is a will there is a way

 

[Domonsky]

Not only Hutson is succeding at a very high level, he is also succeding at exposing whoever has no credibility as per their hockey knowledge!

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I'm just wondering where this Hutson on the Devils roster connection came from in the first place. Very bizarre.

Not sure where it originated from, but it's super weird. LOL

 

[dgibb10]

I don’t build nhl rosters, but i assume if there is a will there is a way

I think eventually Luke will become able to PK, and maybe with Hutson you try and build him into that role this year?

Or the other alternative is you replace Dougie with basically a RHD Dillon and trade him this offseason somehow through his NMC but even then I think Dougie's shot is a key part of our PP success. (the same reason I'm hesitant to put Luke on as a PP1 replacement next year)

MTL has Hutson feeding to 2 snipers in Caufield/Laine
NJD has Jack feeding and moving to Bratt/Dougie as the shot threats, and replacing a shot threat in dougie with a non shooting threat in Hutson/Luke would throw things off

Or ig you could go with the "let's get REAL crazy with it" solution of Brendan Smith 4LW+PK specialist

 

[Bear of Bad News]

We're going to cool off for a bit, folks.

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[Bear of Bad News]

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