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New York Islanders: Lamoriello Contract Not Renewed; John Collins Searching for Next GM

islanders have to be waiting on Scott White

Thats the only reason why this has gone on so long. NHL is so dumb for not allowing AGM's to do interviews during the playoffs
Either him or Mark Janko from Dallas. Possibly Darren Yorke from Carolina as well. Those 3 would be my guess as to who else they’ll interview. Possibly next week if one of the two teams gets knocked out.
 
islanders have to be waiting on Scott White

Thats the only reason why this has gone on so long. NHL is so dumb for not allowing AGM's to do interviews during the playoffs

I think this is dead on target (see below).


Either him or Mark Janko from Dallas. Possibly Darren Yorke from Carolina as well. Those 3 would be my guess as to who else they’ll interview. Possibly next week if one of the two teams gets knocked out.

Again agree.

Here's the problem...Dallas is winning this round and it means they'll be playing through the end of the month...And what if they make the finals? You can't wait until mid June to name a President/GM.

That said in past years, we've seen executives like Bill Zito and Chris Drury interviewed during playoff runs after their teams granted permission. So would Dallas (or any other team) grant permission? I hope so.


 
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I think this is dead on target (see below).




Again agree.

Here's the problem...Dallas is winning this round and it means they'll be playing through the end of the month...And what if they make the finals? You can't wait until mid June to name a President/GM.

That said in past years, we've seen executives like Bill Zito and Chris Drury interviewed during playoff runs after their teams granted permission. So would Dallas (or any other team) grant permission? I hope so.



I’d like to see a breakdown of (no order of preference):
Bergevin/Jarmo: POHO
Darche/Janko/White/Yorke: GM
Both females: AGMs with one running the AHL and the other specializing in analytics
Hickey: special advisor to the GM (learning the trade and offering his insight)

Jarmo also director of scouting and a doubled/tripled staff of scouts

As for the active guys, I’m guessing Collins went to the teams and they said after the season pending the spot is still available. They could have had a preliminary interview already that we don’t even know about.
 
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I’d like to see a breakdown of (no order of preference):
Bergevin/Jarmo: POHO
Darche/Janko/White/Yorke: GM
Both females: AGMs with one running the AHL and the other specializing in analytics
Hickey: special advisor to the GM (learning the trade and offering his insight)

Jarmo also director of scouting and a doubled/tripled staff of scouts

As for the active guys, I’m guessing Collins went to the teams and they said after the season pending the spot is still available. They could have had a preliminary interview already that we don’t even know about.
After all that I'd like to see Collins call Uncle Steve in Flushing and initiate a hostile takeover from Scott Malkin.:nod:
 
After all that I'd like to see Collins call Uncle Steve in Flushing and initiate a hostile takeover from Scott Malkin.:nod:
Uncle Steve is trying to make his money back from the loss of luxury box tickets after giving it away to that Soto guy.
 
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In essence it's a front office rebuild to get it into the 21st century since Lou was a one-man wrecking crew, plus a roster rebuild.
And what’s NOT to like about that? If you are Holland, it makes sense, but for the rest of the ‘candidates’ under 70, seems like a opportunity all over it. Especially, with a #1 pick in your lap.
 
Brilliant observation there Pierre. Took you this long to figure that out? Guess him and Staple in their world of make believe couldn’t figure out there’s more going beyond the unemployed crew everyone is so scared of.
Because the NHL is filled with morons
 
Either him or Mark Janko from Dallas. Possibly Darren Yorke from Carolina as well. Those 3 would be my guess as to who else they’ll interview. Possibly next week if one of the two teams gets knocked out.
There are others. Ross Mahoney from WAS might be the most qualified AGM out there - he almost got the Devs job before they hired Fitz, and when McPhee went to VGK he tried to hire him as his AGM but WAS wouldn't let him interview for a lateral position.

Gregory Campbell and Paul Krepelka from FLA. And Rich Peverley from DAL gets credit from Nill for being his "eyes and ears" when it comes to acquiring/signing players. There are lots of possibilities.
 
Not getting it. What does saying "this week" have to do with any deep meanings besides the obvious?
seeing as we're still in ''this week'' Staple seemed to indicate they've been interviewed already .

so , no deep meaning other than the process has begun already with darche , bergevin , jarmo already being interviewed ''this week'' , as in either mon , tue
 
I don't really care about the media coverage, and I don't really care about perceptions about the process. I care about the result. My feelings:

- I want the GM to have autonomy - I don't want to have some ridiculous structure where people don't think the person in that office has the authority to make decisions.
- I don't want Bergevin. Anyone with a GM record is going to have hits and misses - a mistake is not a dealbreaker. But drafting Mailloux was a colossal, and unnecessary error in judgment of the sort where I don't feel comfortable ceding him the authority I think the GM ought to have.
- A President who has GM experience automatically restricts the perceived authority of a GM. And while perception isn't reality, when it comes to authority perceptions affect it a good deal.

imo if NYI are going to hire a GM with a POHO, let the POHO be a pure executive type person (a communicator/facilitator/organizer), and not a GM who deals with player and coaching personnel. If that's how they go, it doesn't really matter at all whether they have a pre-existing relationship so long as they are professional and understand their roles. I have no idea whether Hickey, for example, potentially has GM skills. I could seem him as a POHO type down the line.

Last, it stands to reason that there exists untapped talent among women in professional hockey. It is not (merely) a matter of 'inclusion' to interview qualified women. Not doing so could mean you miss out on the next great executive.
 
I heard a rumor Shanahan might interview for the job when Toronto gets eliminated

Talk about bringing the band back together we just need Dubas. lol

Is Shanahan actually in jeopardy over there? I thought I heard earlier this year that he was pretty safe no matter what.
 
Is Shanahan actually in jeopardy over there? I thought I heard earlier this year that he was pretty safe no matter what.

So from the little I heard his contract is up after the draft and probably more speculation than rumors but they feel if Toronto loses they might want to move on to something different. problem here that I see is if the Islanders go that way who is our GM till July 1. One name comes to mind. lol

On the positive side of going this route, it would give us an inside track on a certain UFA
 
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The idea that nobody wants this job because Holland picked LA is just ridiculous. He is 70 years old and lives on the west coast. It makes total sense that he'd choose that job.

I understand people are anxious because we have the first pick, but this is a big decision and I'd rather they take their time and get it right. There is nothing wrong with wanting to interview people from teams that are still playing. It's not going to take a month for a new GM to get up to speed and draft Schaefer. Honestly, having the first pick almost allows us to have more time to figure it out.
 
It's not going to take a month for a new GM to get up to speed and draft Schaefer Hagens. Honestly, having the first pick almost allows us to have more time to figure it out.

Fixed it for you

In all honesty though yeah as long as we have a GM in place by late may Very early June we should be fine for the draft
 
I am sympathetic to the argument i'd rather get the right guy than the right now guy. Uncle Steve waited and waited for Stearns to be available and got his man. I think we can wait until june to hire the right person.

And as others have said, the entire structure needs to be reworked - there needs to be a full team in place with smart people to make the best decisions. Personally I dont want one person as POHO/GM - too much power, too few hands.
 

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