Confirmed Trade: [LAK/WPG] Pierre-Luc Dubois (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for Gabe Vilardi, Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kupari, 2024 2nd round pick

[Osprey]

To Kings fans upset over what the team gave up and the size of the contract:

 

[Paulinbc]

If Kupari isn't a healthy scratch for the Jets at some point next year, I'd be shocked.

Agreed. Likely a lengthy stretch too.

 

[jetsv2]

Agreed. Likely a lengthy stretch too.

So you went from claiming you didn't know who he was to saying he wont be in the lineup next year. How can you say that if you don't know who he is?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Vegas paid less in their package for Jack Eichel and Eichel is a far superior player than PLD. Just shows that Eichels contract at 10M per isn't as bad as many think when you compare it to PLD's new contract.

 

[Devonator]

I honestly thought he was going to be a Hab and that the Jets would get very little for him....Great deal for the Jets and a solid pick up for the Kings....I think the Habs are the losers here.....

 

[kanucks25]

One of the biggest selling points for the Kings in this deal is the contract itself. It's considerably less money than most were expecting.

People were expecting "considerably more money" for a player that has never paced for more than 70p?

 

[bland]

Fiala is a second line player now? Might want to see how many left wings have scored more than he has the few years

Funny how a guy who plays on the teams second and third lines - both here and in Minnesota - is somehow not a second line winger because of stats.

If he actually played on ANY teams first line this wouldn't be an issue. But he hasn't because he is a one man band who isn't compatible with play-making centers.

There is so much more to the game than stats. Shame so many of you miss it.

 

[BLONG7]

I honestly thought he was going to be a Hab and that the Jets would get very little for him....Great deal for the Jets and a solid pick up for the Kings....I think the Habs are the losers here.....

Habs are the lucky ones................imagine giving up 3 players and a pick for that guy....Habs were offering one player, one pick and one prospect....and some thought it was too much.....
Have a look at the Kings cap, now tell me who lost the deal?

 

[10Ducky10]

Habs are the lucky ones................imagine giving up 3 players and a pick for that guy....Habs were offering one player, one pick and one prospect....and some thought it was too much.....
Have a look at the Kings cap, now tell me who lost the deal?

Habs and all of their know-it-all fans that said we had to take what they offered.

 

[eviohh26]

In what world is Dubios worth that contract?

 

[BLONG7]

Habs and all of their know-it-all fans that said we had to take what they offered.

Most habs fans did not want, and others only wanted at a certain price.
Kings have made a big mistake...

 

[Eagle Fang]

Lol…I love people here who haven’t even watched the kings players…keep up the good work …Valardi, 24, is awesome, but played 63 games and has had a history of back issues, is he over it for good.? Who knows. He shot 19% , that won’t be sustainable….good player, tough to see him go. Does 63 games make you feel warm and fuzzy? Btw, he’s a winger not centre. Iafallo, 29; Swiss Army knife, but at $4M, he was a luxury, Moore will take over that role. Kupari,23,….nothing, super fast but nothing. 2nd round …ahh that sucked! Now PLD, 25, …best player in the trade. 2C on playoff team, entering prime, needs to work faceoffs and two game
Definitely a home run or strike out swing …but it’s not as one sided as most ppl on here will believe, same ppl said the same about danault and he’s been fanastic!

All pretty spot on. I don't like the trade, but the more posts I read from people who blow things way out of proportion the better I like it.

I don't think the majority of King's fans really care one bit about losing Iafallo or Kupari. I certainly don't. In some ways it's to LA's benefit. It opens up spots for young players to get an opportunity. Iafallo isn't some game breaker. He's a safe player who plays a solid, vanilla game.

Kupari, with all his speed and talent, is incredibly frustrating to watch. He'll do something good, and then follow it up with 36 things that make you think, WTF was he thinking. He looked good in Ontario, but hasn't been able to bring much of that to the NHL yet.

Just because those players were added to the trade doesn't make it some massive haul for Winnipeg. I've watched these players in all their NHL and most AHL (Kupari) games. Whatever the expectations are, I doubt they're any where near reality based on some of these posts.

To me what makes this a bad trade for LA are the rumors / question marks about PLD's effort and attitude. That's about it. Because in Vilardi, we had a player who was immensly talented, just getting into his groove and showed all the signs that he could be a player just as effective without any of the perceived attitude or effort issues.

If those concerns about PLD are hogwash, then it's a much closer trade than people make it out to be and it'll boil down to PLD vs Vilardi + 2nd.

 

[10Ducky10]

Most habs fans did not want, and others only wanted at a certain price.
Kings have made a big mistake...

As I mentioned, I was talking about their know-it-all fans.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I honestly thought he was going to be a Hab and that the Jets would get very little for him....Great deal for the Jets and a solid pick up for the Kings....I think the Habs are the losers here.....

Habs made a take it or leave it offer. Jets asked for Dach which is a no go and better than what they got. LA will likely regret the trade soon.

 

[BLONG7]

As I mentioned, I was talking about their know-it-all fans.

Every fan base has those....
The Jets have made out way better on this deal than all the pundits called for.........Chevy had no leverage, and it seems Blake took advice from Bergevin!! LOL

 

[Rick Knickleback]

I'm higher on Kupari than most Kings fans, and I predict he'll do well as a bottom 6er in the 'Peg. Change of scenery and a different voice in his ear will help. Kings botched his development. I think he can top out as someone you can build a 4th line around or be an integral part of a good 3rd line.

 

[10Ducky10]

All pretty spot on. I don't like the trade, but the more posts I read from people who blow things way out of proportion the better I like it.

I don't think the majority of King's fans really care one bit about losing Iafallo or Kupari. I certainly don't. In some ways it's to LA's benefit. It opens up spots for young players to get an opportunity. Iafallo isn't some game breaker. He's a safe player who plays a solid, vanilla game.

Kupari, with all his speed and talent, is incredibly frustrating to watch. He'll do something good, and then follow it up with 36 things that make you think, WTF was he thinking. He looked good in Ontario, but hasn't been able to bring much of that to the NHL yet.

Just because those players were added to the trade doesn't make it some massive haul for Winnipeg. I've watched these players in all their NHL and most AHL (Kupari) games. Whatever the expectations are, I doubt they're any where near reality based on some of these posts.

To me what makes this a bad trade for LA are the rumors / question marks about PLD's effort and attitude. That's about it. Because in Vilardi, we had a player who was immensly talented, just getting into his groove and showed all the signs that he could be a player just as effective without any of the perceived attitude or effort issues.

If those concerns about PLD are hogwash, then it's a much closer trade than people make it out to be and it'll boil down to PLD vs Vilardi + 2nd.

I think PLD signed where he wanted to sign so those worries are unwarranted.
He never wanted to be in Columbus or Winnipeg.

 

[Surf Nutz]

 

[Steve Zissou]

Vegas paid less in their package for Jack Eichel and Eichel is a far superior player than PLD.

Tuch had a monster year in Buffalo last year, but Blake def. way overpaid, especially given how PLD only had 2 (rumored) reams he wanted to go.

Just shows that Eichels contract at 10M per isn't as bad as many think when you compare it to PLD's new contract.

Eichel signed his 8-year deal in 2018. Not exactly apples to apples given we are 5 years down the road and contracts have changed.

There is no denying the slightly similarities in contracts but also that both he and PLD are/were typecasted as disgruntled players wanting to sign/get traded elsewhere.

Eichel with a cup now. Hard to hate on the guy.

 

[bert]

Physical greasy game is exactly the game Dubois plays. He did it less effectively in the second half of the season while he was dealing with a hip injury, but when he's healthy he is exactly the player you're saying he's not. That would be my biggest concern if I was a Kings' fan, can Dubois play the game that makes him effective and stay healthy?

Yeah no clue what that poster was talking about. You can tell not many people actually watched the jets or blue jackets.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Habs and all of their know-it-all fans that said we had to take what they offered.

It was super generous of them to offer anything at all, seeing as they could just have him for free in a year.

Besides, Dvorak and Anderson are quality assets.

 

[bert]

Vegas paid less in their package for Jack Eichel and Eichel is a far superior player than PLD. Just shows that Eichels contract at 10M per isn't as bad as many think when you compare it to PLD's new contract.

What?! Lol Vegas gave up way more what are you talking about.

The deal was Tuch, Krebs a 1st who was 16th OA who was Ostlund and a 2nd.

Tuch is better and worth much more than Vilardi. Iafollo was a cap dump. Kupari worth less than a first and then a 2nd. Some of your takes are rough.

 

[Eagle Fang]

I think PLD signed where he wanted to sign so those worries are unwarranted.
He never wanted to be in Columbus or Winnipeg.

If that is the case and he brings his expected 60-75 points along with a good compete level, then the trade is far from lopsided, of course depending on how Vilardi develops and who the Jets take with the 2nd.

But for people to use the inclusion of Iafallo and Kupari to push some fleecing narrative is honestly comical and misguided. I'm sitting here trying to comprehend how those 2 players make the trade lopsided. Not as a troll, not because I'm trying to defend anything, but because I've watched those players so much.

 

[lomiller1]

Habs made a take it or leave it offer. Jets asked for Dach which is a no go and better than what they got. LA will likely regret the trade soon.

Vilardi is a much more desirable player than Dach. Factoring in Caufield's 7.85 million AAV I'd take Vilardi over him as well.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

I think anyway you slice it Jets win this trade:
Vilardi - has had injury issues but I think a change of scenery and more ice time will only help him.
Iaffalo - great player to have for the pkauoffs.
Kupari - I don’t love him but he gives Jets even more depth.
2nd - just adds to the overpayment in this trade by LA.

Dubois - to me he is one of the most overrated players in the league. I think Vilardi alone is going to match his production very soon.