Confirmed Signing with Link: [LAK] F Quinton Byfield re-signs with the Kings (5 years, $6.25M AAV)

[KirkAlbuquerque]

He was truly awful in his first couple seasons. He broke out a bit last year but still only 20 goals. He has 28 goals in 180 nhl games. Pretty horrendous. That said, maybe he breaks out a ton more to be worth the contract.

He was always projected to be a late bloomer

 

[jetsforever]

Seems good for LA

 

[tsujimoto74]

That one’s going to age well.

 

[MXD]

The deal is great but I don't like why the Kings brass is doing it.

 

[bert]

Wow that's a steal.

Walks Him right to UFA at 26 years old. Great deal for Byfield.

 

[brucioloco]

Good deal, but at only the age 26 turning 27 what he might be worth as an UFA could be big.

 

[bert]

Got less than Slaf. Fire his agent.

Should have went for the 8y deal.

This is a way better deal than the one for slaf. He's gonna make 14 million anywhere he wants at 26 years old.

 

[Frank Drebin]

This is a way better deal than the one for slaf. He's gonna make 14 million anywhere he wants at 26 years old.

Better deal for the player for sure

 

[bert]

Better deal for the player for sure

Yeah sorry that's what I meant.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I guess he refused to sign for 8? I would have given him 7.25 for 8 instead of this one. Takes 2 to tango I know

 

[JKG33]

Could be following the Matthews route. Shorter deals to capitalize on the rising cap.

If it were the Matthews route he would've had his cake and eaten too... by taking an 8 year style cap hit for only 5 years

 

[LordBacon]

Could be a steal of a contract in a couple of years if he continues to improve.
The risk is well worth it.

 

[brucioloco]

I guess he refused to sign for 8? I would have given him 7.25 for 8 instead of this one. Takes 2 to tango I know

Quickly did some loose math on this. He’s currently at roughly 7% of the cap space. If it continues to rise $4.5 million a year 7% will be about $7.75 million of the cap at the end of this contract. Couple that with him being an UFA at a prime age and I’m willing to bet his next contract will be massive, and I mean $9-10 million massive taking him into his mid thirties. This is all based on him meeting the expectations of course. He might turn into an overpayment too.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Could be a steal of a contract in a couple of years if he continues to improve.
The risk is well worth it.

I don't think there is much risk for LA just limited reward. At best they probably get 2-3 years of Byfield on a steal of a contract.

 

[StreetHawk]

I guess he refused to sign for 8? I would have given him 7.25 for 8 instead of this one. Takes 2 to tango I know

Well, let's break down those numbers. $6.25 mill for 5 years is $31.25 million. You are offering $7.25 mill for 8 years, thus a total of $58 mill. Thus, the extra 3 years you have valued at $26.75 mill. Thus, under $9 mill per each of those 3 extra ufa years.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Weird that they allowed him to sign right into UFA. Not a fan because of that.

The contract in a vacuum is excellent

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Good deal. Will look like a steal in a couple years

Bunch of guys from that 2020 draft should be making big strides in the next few years.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Well, let's break down those numbers. $6.25 mill for 5 years is $31.25 million. You are offering $7.25 mill for 8 years, thus a total of $58 mill. Thus, the extra 3 years you have valued at $26.75 mill. Thus, under $9 mill per each of those 3 extra ufa years.

Right. So if Byfield is a 10 m player the certainty of the 8 year deal costs him ~3m total. But he's getting paid more upfront so its hardly a factor.

Unless you think hes a 12-13 m player in 5 years?

 

[StreetHawk]

Weird that they allowed him to sign right into UFA. Not a fan because of that.

The contract in a vacuum is excellent

I do believe he accrued the 21/22 season towards free agency, so he has 3 years and needs 4 more. Thus, this does buy 1 ufa age.

 

[StreetHawk]

Right. So if Byfield is a 10 m player the certainty of the 8 year deal costs him ~3m total. But he's getting paid more upfront so its hardly a factor.

Unless you think hes a 12-13 m player in 5 years?

I think 5/6 year term for Byfield made sense. Best to set yourself up for the 3rd contract at age 27 or 28 vs at age 30 (I'm using the age his draft class will all be not his actual age as of July 1).

He may age well or he may not if he signed all the way until he turns 30. But, hitting ufa at 27 is a pretty good spot to get a good 3rd contract. 5 years locks him in at $31.25 mill, thus about $35 mill in career earnings by then.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I do believe he accrued the 21/22 season towards free agency, so he has 3 years and needs 4 more. Thus, this does buy 1 ufa age.

Either way, it puts them at his mercy when the contract is a year away. Especially if his trajectory continues upwards.

For all the stupid things Dorion did, signing Stutzle and Sanderson to max contracts was stellar.

 

[LordBacon]

I don't think there is much risk for LA just limited reward. At best they probably get 2-3 years of Byfield on a steal of a contract.

Thats exactly what I meant. lol
Forgive my ESL ass, maybe I wasnt concise enough earlier.

The risk is still there,
its just incredibly small that It doesnt hurt. (thats what she said.)

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

As nice as the AAV is, I wouldn't love this deal if I was a Kings fan. They are walking him to UFA in 5 years right before he turns 27, makes no sense. It's not like that bit of savings will help them compete anytime soon.

Well, it's the perfect rob blake deal really

on paper/in a vacuum it looks like a tidy, saavy deal, saving the team some cap up front, giving player and team flexibility for an increasing cap down the road

in reality it's him bailing himself out of his own poor decisions by compounding them into the future because he screwed the pooch on Petersen and PLD and because we're suffering the bonus overages of a f***in 35+ goalie who isn't even with the org anymore for starters.

You could probably trick Rob Blake into refinancing his car at a higher rate repeatedly because it spits out 1000 bucks each time. Who cares about tomorrow?

 

[StreetHawk]

Either way, it puts them at his mercy when the contract is a year away. Especially if his trajectory continues upwards.

For all the stupid things Dorion did, signing Stutzle and Sanderson to max contracts was stellar.

Ottawa is also not a free agent destination, so they should go max term if the opportunity presents itself. Sanderson, at $8 mill, very unlikely he ever becomes a "deal" for them, but for the Sens, not really about getting a "deal", but more about securing the player long term at the market rate.

Now, they just need to actually achieve something as Chabot is already 4 years into his max term deal. And each key player a year behind in Tkachuck, Norris, Stutzle.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Ottawa is also not a free agent destination, so they should go max term if the opportunity presents itself. Sanderson, at $8 mill, very unlikely he ever becomes a "deal" for them, but for the Sens, not really about getting a "deal", but more about securing the player long term at the market rate.

Now, they just need to actually achieve something as Chabot is already 4 years into his max term deal. And each key player a year behind in Tkachuck, Norris, Stutzle.

This is not the thread for it, but Sanderson is absolutely a deal.