Confirmed with Link: (LAK/CAR) Kings acquire Sekera from Canes

[417th]

This really puts the deal into some better perspective.


Wowza.

So very much overpayment. TB looks foolish on this one.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Holy crap that's insane.

Ehhh maybe not that bad. Coburn > Gudas of course and it's a giant late first but the third tips the scales into slight overpayment. Coburn is on term though IIRC, no? Shrug, it's late. Whatever.

 

[417th]

Holy crap that's insane.

Ehhh maybe not that bad. Coburn > Gudas of course and it's a giant late first but the third tips the scales into slight overpayment. Coburn is on term though IIRC, no? Shrug, it's late. Whatever.

Id agree but Gudas has some value. He alone would have brought back a 3rd, maybe a 4rth at worst. When he is healthy is a solid enough 4/5/6 pmd type. Coburn is just as fragile and while clearly the better of the two he wasn't worth a first by any means. I wonder how long it will take before deeshamrok comes in and set me straight on Coburn.

 

[kingsfan]

Gudas is about equal to Roman Polak. I'd peg his value at a 2nd, especially since he has room to grow some. Can't say I feel Coburn is worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, no matter how late the 1st is.

 

[damacles1156]

At least the Kings First rounder is protected this season.

 

[Hatter]

We cabn easily say that Hextall learned a LOT from Lombardi.

I have a strange feeling that the Flyers are going to be a scary team in 3-4 years

 

[Bandit]

We cabn easily say that Hextall learned a LOT from Lombardi.

I have a strange feeling that the Flyers are going to be a scary team in 3-4 years

I doubt it, #becasuephilly. Besides, Lombardi is a shrewd lawyer, Hextall, god love him, is an ex goalie with a couple screws loose.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

We cabn easily say that Hextall learned a LOT from Lombardi.

I have a strange feeling that the Flyers are going to be a scary team in 3-4 years

They have some nice defense prospects, but by the time they are ready their top forwards will be leaving their prime.

 

[kingsfan]

I doubt it, #becasuephilly. Besides, Lombardi is a shrewd lawyer, Hextall, god love him, is an ex goalie with a couple screws loose.

This. I have a hard time believing Hacks-tall has changed enough emotions wise to be as calm under fire as DL.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

Andrej Suckera

 

[Reclamation Project]

Muzzin - Doughty
Regehr - Sekera
McNabb - Greene
Martinez

 

[damacles1156]

McBain deserves to be in the lineup, guy has played really well over the last month. Since McBain has been removed from the lineup, Greene's ice time increased the Kings have been outscored 9-4 and are 0-3.

 

[kingscups]

McBain deserves to be in the lineup, guy has played really well over the last month. Since McBain has been removed from the lineup, Greene's ice time increased the Kings have been outscored 9-4 and are 0-3.

Exactly, I was hoping that Greene would of been shipped out today, I though McBain's play was picking up.

 

[damacles1156]

Exactly, I was hoping that Greene would of been shipped out today, I though McBain's play was picking up.

Matt Greene needs someone like A-Mart to be effective. Also Greene needs to not play more than 12 minutes a night.

He is not a Defender that can play high minutes, or carry the play in his own D zone like A-Mart can. Greene needs to be able to sit in front of the net and clear pucks out. Asking him to do anything else or play 15 minutes a game is going to cost your team.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

D-pairings from today's practice:

Regehr-Doughty
McNabb-Sekera
Muzzin-Greene

 

[damacles1156]

At least Sutter split up RR/Sekera, that pairing was bad in Buffalo.

Started bad for the Kings.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

the thing about this trade that maybe some of you don't get why some us are pessimistic is the following

leave the mirages aside, let's see what this deal really is

did we trade for a full year of Sekera? no...we got him at the 59 mark correct?

so we traded him for AT LEAST 23 games and hopefully more if we make the playoffs, and even more so if he's signed

now...working with what we KNOW is the minimum guarantee of 23 games

out of those 23 games (which cost the Kings a 1st rd pick & McKeown) some people that are patient to a fault would say, hey give him a 5 game or so to adapt...although through experience when you trade a player that player would want to have an imediate impact (don't look too far...Stafford, Jagr, Myers all had an immediate impact with their teams). But fine! Give him 5 expensive games of adapting...so now i'm down to a mininum guarantee that Sekera will show up for 18 games...

that my friends, is a very expensive trade

if i told you, hey man here take Voynov for 18 games, in return just give me a 1st round pick AND McKeown...you'd bite? or hesitate?

now hopefully we sign him...but before that...hopefully HE'S DECENT ENOUGH FOR US TO BE WILLING TO SIGN HIM

i say, so far, (I STRESS SO FAR) bad deal

 

[damacles1156]

the thing about this trade that maybe some of you don't get why some us are pessimistic is the following

leave the mirages aside, let's see what this deal really is

did we trade for a full year of Sekera? no...we got him at the 59 mark correct?

so we traded him for AT LEAST 23 games and hopefully more if we make the playoffs, and even more so if he's signed

now...working with what we KNOW is the minimum guarantee of 23 games

out of those 23 games (which cost the Kings a 1st rd pick & McKeown) some people that are patient to a fault would say, hey give him a 5 game or so to adapt...although through experience when you trade a player that player would want to have an imediate impact (don't look too far...Stafford, Jagr, Myers all had an immediate impact with their teams). But fine! Give him 5 expensive days of adapting...so now i'm down to a mininum guarantee that Sekera will show up for 18 games...

that my friends, is a very expensive trade

if i told you, hey man here take Voynov for 18 games, in return just give me a 1st round pick AND McKeown...you'd bite? or hesitate?

now hopefully we sign him...but before that...hopefully HE'S DECENT ENOUGH FOR US TO BE WILLING TO SIGN HIM

i say bad deal

The 1st or Mckeown don't help the Kings at all this season. The Kings needed another Defender that can eat 20 minutes a night RIGHT NOW. The only Defenders on the Market capable of doing that: Wisniewski/Petry/Sekera/Dion. Lombardi choose Sekera, and paid Carolina's price.

Lombardi accomplished what he set out to do. Shore up the Defense for this season.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

I'd like to see Sekera play on the left side for at least a game because so far I haven't been impressed. I'm definitely giving him the benefit of the doubt having to play on a new team and play on the side that is opposite of what he is used to.

 

[Reclamation Project]

D-pairings from today's practice:

Regehr-Doughty
McNabb-Sekera
Muzzin-Greene

I like.

 

[YP44]

D-pairings from today's practice:

Regehr-Doughty
McNabb-Sekera
Muzzin-Greene

big drop for Muzzin.
I don't know if I like RR playing number 1 minutes. Guy is a rock and I love him, but he is not a top line guy at this point in his career

 

[damacles1156]

Sutter is putting Muzzin with Greene to keep Greene from getting exposed.

Doughty will keep RR from getting exposed.

 

[YP44]

Sutter is putting Muzzin with Greene to keep Greene from getting exposed.

Doughty will keep RR from getting exposed.

i am interested in seeing how Mcnabb and Sekera play.

 

[damacles1156]

Yeah it doesn't matter who you pair Muzzin with, He is a corsi god(Like Doughty).

Muzzin will still end up with 60+% of the possession when the puck is in his zone or on his stick.

 

[KINGS17]

The 1st or Mckeown don't help the Kings at all this season. The Kings needed another Defender that can eat 20 minutes a night RIGHT NOW. The only Defenders on the Market capable of doing that: Wisniewski/Petry/Sekera/Dion. Lombardi choose Sekera, and paid Carolina's price.

Lombardi accomplished what he set out to do. Shore up the Defense for this season.

I agree. The players gave Dean every indication that they are ready to make a push.

The Kings have a chance to make some history THIS season. Dean provided the piece they needed to have a much better chance of doing so in the acquisition of Sekera.