LAK 3 - STL 0: My name is Jonas

[Raccoon Jesus]

thought he should at least get a game

Well I WANTED him to get a couple of games but given the inconclusive video, a lack of reputation, and the DoPS typically softballing, I think a fine is acceptable.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'm glad Reeves has a record now, I'm okaay with the fine in that they are trying to stay unbiased. That whole game from the Blose looked like a thugfest.

THAT I totally agree with. They were going high all night. No clue why this is the game they're choosing to send a message if in fact those were all related.

And Re: the Kings retaliating, remember in the first game when Lucic lost his **** on Couture and all the complaining that happened around here about how the Kings were scrumming it up?

Don't get me wrong, I'm the first to jump when people are up in arms for Kopitar getting plugged, which happens all too often with no retaliation, but I get the feeling it all got reigned in after the first game

 

[Reclamation Project]

The fine is a joke. These guys spend than that on dinner.

 

[Ron*]

Jhonas Enroth, top save percentage in the league.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...&season=20152016&gameType=2&aggregate=0&pos=G

 

[Reclamation Project]

It's those dreamy blue eyes. They track pucks like lasers.

 

[TheSentinel]

It's those dreamy blue eyes. They track pucks like lasers.

or Blu-rays

 

[Reclamation Project]

Bandit's still trying to figure out the UI to play a Blu-Ray.

 

[Good King Jake]

I don't think the video is all that inconclusive. The slow version posted here by savemefromtears pretty clearly gives us a view that Reaves was sliding the butt end of his stick out to make contact with Kopitar. The NHL should have zero tolerance for intentionally using the stick as a weapon. Using the butt end of the stick to make contact with another player has what other purpose than to hurt or injure that player? Reaves was just sliding the butt end of his stick out to just slow Kopitar down? Please. Reaves was doing what every player that has ever butt ended another was doing, trying to get a jab at a player in as sneaky a way possible. Players are held responsible for the use of their stick, even when something happens accidentally. When it is intentional, there deserves to be more than a fine as punishment. When a player is sliding their stick the way Reaves did in this situation, they are intending to do something that is wrong. He deserves to sit at least a game or two.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't think the video is all that inconclusive. The slow version posted here by savemefromtears pretty clearly gives us a view that Reaves was sliding the butt end of his stick out to make contact with Kopitar. The NHL should have zero tolerance for intentionally using the stick as a weapon. Using the butt end of the stick to make contact with another player has what other purpose than to hurt or injure that player? Reaves was just sliding the butt end of his stick out to just slow Kopitar down? Please. Reaves was doing what every player that has ever butt ended another was doing, trying to get a jab at a player in as sneaky a way possible. Players are held responsible for the use of their stick, even when something happens accidentally. When it is intentional, there deserves to be more than a fine as punishment. When a player is sliding their stick the way Reaves did in this situation, they are intending to do something that is wrong. He deserves to sit at least a game or two.

Oh believe me, I don't think anyone here is defending Reaves, and it's consistent with a slipped butt-end motion, but much like a puck in a glove over the goal line, you can't see stick make contact with the face even if you can make a 'common sense' assumpion.

I'm also with you that butt-ending, as premeditated as it is, is amongst the most deplorable, cowardly hockey plays, up there with spearing, slewfooting.

 

[bouncesonly]

FROM GDT



It's not Ranford this time, Enroth is just a talented goalie who would succeed in a system like ours. He actually played well in his time with some of the worst NHL teams in history (Sabres).

He started out hot last year, I had him in my top 15 based on team's corsi performance.

 

[Good King Jake]

I don't think the NHL should view it the same as a goal/no goal call. There was intent to do harm and there was the result of the action, which was an injury. Add in that it was intent to do harm by using the stick as a weapon, it should very simply be a case that cannot be tolerated. Something more than a fine is called for here.

 

[bouncesonly]

Forslund is one of the leagues best pbp guys. Though it did seem a little St. Louis slanted and was a bit surprised by it. Forslund has called many a king playoff win.

Love the weezer reference in the title. Rivers loves my band OZMA and has take us on 4 tours opening for them.

Hopefully the Kopi injury was more precautionary at the tail end of a back to back. It looked like it could be a delayed concussion situation though. Didn't miss Nolan there. Actually liked that we had more skill throughout the lineup with weal

Holy ****, you're in OZMA?! Damn, talk about a throw back to college! I saw you guys when you came down to San Diego on Weezer's green album tour.

 

[Trolfoli]

Again, the Kings are a disciplined team. Two Stanley Cups later, then know what the important prize is.

They never have gone after Mike Smith after his behavior in the 2012 WCF when Sutter did (kind of) promise something would occur later.

Discipline = Cups = best revenge

I guess someone like Brown trying to lay someone out means the Kings wouldn't have won the game? In fact someone like Brown nailing top line guys has helped get teams off their games, drawing penalties and getting guys running out of position. Don't think they have to play like ******* to win the game is all.

Edit: All talk of "cups" needs to stop as long as the 3rd pairing is 10/5... that is all.

 

[Ken Baumgartner 22]

Upset that Lucic didn't take a run a Reaves. What happened to sending a message when you mess with top players? You think had that happened to Gretzky, McSorley would have allowed that???? Times sure have changed.

I am gonna agree, but disagree to a point. Back in the 88-89 season, we boasted, Miller, McSorley and Baumgartner. Teams knew we had the toughness, but those players also knew when it was time to handle the physical side of hockey and when to back off.

In a game against Edmonton that year, Dave Brown jumped Miller early in the game. Then Kevin McClelland went after Gretzky and Nicholls. The Kings didn't retaliate physically. They let the Oilers beat themselves. Edmonton was playing bush league, and the tough guys on LA handled it properly. Bomber scored a goal (his only goal that year), McSorley drew 2 penalties, Miller baited the Oilers into dumb penalties and the Kings won 6-3. Once the game was out of reach score-wise, then the Kings physical play picked up, Bomber annihilated Buchberger, IIRC Mike Allison plastered Kurri into the bench and Tim Watters threw one of the best open ice checks on Tikkanen.

 

[apadilla]

Blues were absolutely filthy this game. At least 4 different headshots, what in the ****?

The Kings are out to win games first and foremost. But I'd still like to see John Scott skating a shift or two a game with Kopi to get these shenanigans to stop. I'm still waiting for last season's boarding of AMart (concussed) to be answered (when we play them). But I have serious doubts if it ever will be.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Think this is an important note from Rosen:

In four consecutive games against top Central Division teams – three of which were waged on the road – the Kings went 3-1-0 against the Jets, Predators, Blackhawks and Blues.

 

[Johnny Utah]

It is kinda strange, this is one of the toughest Kings teams in years with Lucic, Nolan, Clifford, Andreoff, etc...and no one went after Reaves.

Kopitar is our best player. You don't let that happen.

Clifford was tko'd by Reaves years back, Andreoff is not in his weight class, so it really stands on Nolan or Lucic to send a message next game.

 

[driller1]

It is kinda strange, this is one of the toughest Kings teams in years with Lucic, Nolan, Clifford, Andreoff, etc...and no one went after Reaves.

Kopitar is our best player. You don't let that happen.

Clifford was tko'd by Reaves years back, Andreoff is not in his weight class, so it really stands on Nolan or Lucic to send a message next game.

Honestly, I'd rather just pummel Tareshenko.

That would make no sense for Lucic to go after him. Kopitar already sat a game and now you want another top 6 forward to get a 5 minute penalty? It will literally impact the Blues ZERO.

Crush Tareshenko with a nice clean check, win the game, and call it even.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

The Kings played decent against Chicago too. If they'd scored those two posts, they probably would've won. The quality chances they gave up ended up in the back of the net.

 

[johnjm22]

It is kinda strange, this is one of the toughest Kings teams in years with Lucic, Nolan, Clifford, Andreoff, etc...and no one went after Reaves.

That's because the Kings are actually trying to win the game. Fighting Reaves accomplishes nothing.

Pretty sure the Kings lead the league in fighting majors BTW.

 

[tsanuri]

The fine is a joke. These guys spend than that on dinner.

This is the major problem with the fines. But this is what is in the CBA. And is what the players want. What is sad is that likely the same players that voted for this CBA will be some of the same players once their carriers are over will try and sue the NHL over head trauma.

 

[Herby]

It is kinda strange, this is one of the toughest Kings teams in years with Lucic, Nolan, Clifford, Andreoff, etc...and no one went after Reaves.

Kopitar is our best player. You don't let that happen.

Clifford was tko'd by Reaves years back, Andreoff is not in his weight class, so it really stands on Nolan or Lucic to send a message next game.

But I thought having guys like this on the ice was to deter guys like Reaves from doing that? That is what you have been saying for years.

The Kings did not bring Lucic in to have him instigate a fight with Ryan Reaves and sit in the penalty box for 15 minutes, not with the way his line is playing and especially not with Kopitar injured and out.

The way to make teams pay for dressing guys like Reaves is to do exactly what the Kings have done to the Blues this entire decade, beat them on the scoreboard and eliminate them from the playoffs.

 

[KINGS17]

Honestly, I'd rather just pummel Tareshenko.

That would make no sense for Lucic to go after him. Kopitar already sat a game and now you want another top 6 forward to get a 5 minute penalty? It will literally impact the Blues ZERO.

Crush Tareshenko with a nice clean check, win the game, and call it even.

I would say more like have Nolan do it, but the thing that matters most is playing physical Kings hockey and getting the two points. I would be fine with a guy like Nolan or Clifford giving Tarasenko a good crosscheck to the back at the end of the game.

No need for Lucic to get involved in that crap, as he has a regular shift on the Kings' best line.

 

[Riposte!]

I guess someone like Brown trying to lay someone out means the Kings wouldn't have won the game? In fact someone like Brown nailing top line guys has helped get teams off their games, drawing penalties and getting guys running out of position. Don't think they have to play like ******* to win the game is all.

Edit: All talk of "cups" needs to stop as long as the 3rd pairing is 10/5... that is all.

Don't talk about Jamie McBain that way; he's 6-0 this season.

 

[Jeff18]

McBain belongs on the 3rd pairing as of now. #10 needs to be sitting in a dark quiet room.