LAK 2 - VAN 1 - I don't want to set the world on fire

[Face Wash]

Sorry Guys...I just came back from the 24th annual Mittens Chili Cook off and it gave me the runs....What I miss?

 

[cyclones22]

They were 65% tonight

I mean consistently. They're still right around or below 50% on the season. Actually, it's really only because Carter is having such a bad time for whatever reason. Hopefully he can get back on track.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'll admit frustration over how they were playing in a stretch of the second, but this isn't last year's team--that third period was utter dominance. Shots on goal were 18-1 after the 2nd period.

Can only fault the lack of finish that prevented what should have been an easy regulation win. Markstrom was the difference. But they found a way.

Not enough people are giving credit to Markstrom. You can minimize the shots/finish all you want, he had a lot of good saves and looks and a bit of luck. I would have been mad if we lost, but it certainly wasn't for lack of effort or rolling over and dying.

Two OT games
Two gift turnovers
But also
2 goals off those gifts.
How bad would we be feeling if the Kings hadn't scored Saturday or today off those gifts

But those gift turnovers were the culmination of relentless forechecking for 60+ minutes. Even when playing a simple game to avoid mistakes, we were ALL OVER the Canucks all night on the forecheck, I tried to watch it from an opposing perspective for a bit and we looked magnificent/damn near unstoppable on the breakout finding inches to pass through and we looked like we had too many men on the ice all the time on the forecheck. That was a good damn game that is being measured too much by the result--which I understand given recent history, but take a step back and rewatch that one.

I know people are hating guys like Shore, Brown, and Lewis for very obvious reasons, but my god, those guys are annoying as hell for the other teams, Shore is really stepping up the pressure lately, he seems more comfortable with where to be.

 

[Ron*]

Not enough people are giving credit to Markstrom. You can minimize the shots/finish all you want, he had a lot of good saves and looks and a bit of luck. I would have been mad if we lost, but it certainly wasn't for lack of effort or rolling over and dying.

He had a hell of a game. The guy is ****ing huge. I guessed 6'6" and that's what he is, but Wiki has him at 196 and I would add at least 30 pounds to that.

Fianceé had the line of the evening: The bobble-head can't be Drew Doughty: the bobble-head is not missing any teeth.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

He had a hell of a game. The guy is ****ing huge. I guessed 6'6" and that's what he is, but Wiki has him at 196 and I would add at least 30 pounds to that.

Fianceé had the line of the evening: The bobble-head can't be Drew Doughty: the bobble-head is not missing any teeth.

Even if not, the equipment will add that visually, heh. We had a 6'2" goalie in college who was 175 pounds soaking wet and he looked like a solid 220 in gear.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

For funsies.

http://war-on-ice.com/game2.html?seasongcode=2015201620367

 

[Ron*]

Too bad Ron had to miss all the happy talk in here tonight.

I'm sure it must have been a dumpster fire for the first two periods. I don't need to waste my time reading all the #debbiedowner bull **** that is the GDT these days. I'm in a good mood after another win. The only thing that was mildly disappointing is (1) the Kings couldn't keep from giving VAN 1 point due to PP fail, and (2) because of that PP bleeding into the OT, is we didn't get to see five full minutes of 3v3. That **** just can't be matched for excitement.

 

[kingsfan28]

If lewis could finish he wouldn't be in a Kings sweater... We couldn't afford him. We must just accept him as the perpetual tease that he is and be glad for all that he does bring.

If he could just finish a few times a year, we'd all be really happy at what we get from him offensively.With all the chances he gets year after year, 10-12 goals shouldn't be out of the question.Just mindblowing how he can't finish.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Are we buying on this?

 

[Ron*]

Are we buying on this?

I'm buying, because Doughty is selling.

The downside to that emphasis on defense is that line just doesn't provide any real offensive threat (in terms of goals). They do spend quite a bit of time in the offensive zone, I've noticed. They just don't produce.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

FWIW, despite his -8, Shore is winning 53.5% of his faceoffs, good for 36th in the league (of those who have taken 100 or more faceoffs), and is literally the league leader in CF%, at 63.9%. and that's mostly because his CA60 is flat out elite as well--36.0, first in the league provided you don't count Pateryn from MTL, and you shouldn't', because he's hardly played. That's shot suppression. Not bad. relative to the team-- -15.45.

And that's with production slugs, as Ron noted. So they're certainly a 'role' line, the real problem is that's our third, and our fourth is running around being ****** right now.

 

[tsanuri]

FWIW, despite his -8, Shore is winning 53.5% of his faceoffs, good for 36th in the league (of those who have taken 100 or more faceoffs), and is literally the league leader in CF%, at 63.9%. and that's mostly because his CA60 is flat out elite as well--36.0, first in the league provided you don't count Pateryn from MTL, and you shouldn't', because he's hardly played. That's shot suppression. Not bad. relative to the team-- -15.45.

And that's with production slugs, as Ron noted. So they're certainly a 'role' line, the real problem is that's our third, and our fourth is running around being ****** right now.

It's not like they aren't getting chances. That would worry me much more than what they are doing. As you said they control the puck and don't let many shots come the other way. You just have to think like many of our other stats they have to come around. But even if they don't as long as we keep winning I'm not going to complain much.

 

[scryan]

I am medium to above medium on shore. I dont know what we should expect from him... But I spend very little time yelling at my TV about him, and from time to time I see him do nice stuff. #advancestats.

 

[rapots]

Kopi with 2nd defensive clutch move in a row

 

[MOGlLNY]

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Go Kings!

 

[FrozenRoyalty]

The post-game interview with Kopitar that you didn't see...

Anze Kopitar after the 2-1 OT win over Vancouver...wasn't broadcast on TV...

 

[damacles1156]

Shore has been as advertised on the 200ft game, that has always been his strength.

But at the NHL level, you have to bring some form of production, at some point. Especially as a main stay at third line center.

 

[Bandit]

Are we buying on this?

Doughty on shore: "He's an AHL tweener but we can't afford a better option because Dustin Brown's contract sucks."

What does anyone expect him to say about a teammate?

 

[Captain Mittens*]

Shore has been as advertised on the 200ft game, that has always been his strength.

But at the NHL level, you have to bring some form of production, at some point. Especially as a main stay at third line center.

Shore is a rookie. His scoring will pickup. Also, remember that Doughty goal almost went off his badonkadonk last night.

 

[Omni Owl]

Damn I fell asleep. Saw some of the first where Markstrom was stopping everything, and some highlights where he made some phenomenal saves. It felt like one of those games where they weren't gonna get a goal. Thank you based Doughty and Edler.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Doughty on shore: "He's an AHL tweener but we can't afford a better option because Dustin Brown's contract sucks."

What does anyone expect him to say about a teammate?

I mean, there's a LOT of grey area between AHL tweener and best defensive center in the league...

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

Good Game last night. Their backstop was stonewalling us for awhile, but we got through. Sweet pass by Carts at the end and way to finish on Kopi's part.

 

[theMajor]

FWIW, despite his -8, Shore is winning 53.5% of his faceoffs, good for 36th in the league (of those who have taken 100 or more faceoffs), and is literally the league leader in CF%, at 63.9%. and that's mostly because his CA60 is flat out elite as well--36.0, first in the league provided you don't count Pateryn from MTL, and you shouldn't', because he's hardly played. That's shot suppression. Not bad. relative to the team-- -15.45.

And that's with production slugs, as Ron noted. So they're certainly a 'role' line, the real problem is that's our third, and our fourth is running around being ****** right now.

I was looking at some advanced stats the other day and had to rub my eyes when I noticed Shore at the top for CF. The only thing I really notice is how often he wins faceoffs and how he wins them cleanly. I wouldnt have guessed that his possession numbers could be that high given his linemates
now, if only they could start pouring in some offense....

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Shore has been as advertised on the 200ft game, that has always been his strength.

But at the NHL level, you have to bring some form of production, at some point. Especially as a main stay at third line center.

This is why i think we need to pick up someone to play 3c We are going for a cup and need every point we can get.

 

[mbar]

Doughty on shore: "He's an AHL tweener but we can't afford a better option because Dustin Brown's contract sucks."

What does anyone expect him to say about a teammate?

If I recall correctly, no one asked him to assess Shore. It sounded more like Doughty was volunteering this opinion which to me adds weight to the honesty of what he said. I don't doubt Drew believes this.