Proposal: Lafrenière to Montreal.

[FIRE DRURY]

guess you haven’t seen some of the proposals over the years then, lol

Oh I’ve seen plenty. This is certified garbage.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Oh I’ve seen plenty. This is certified garbage.

Not as bad as the garbage you’ve put out there.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Laf “plateauing” at 25G 60P at even strength seems pretty stellar (would have put him at 19th and 13th in the league, respectively, last season).

He plays 1:30/game this year (VS I guess 0 min/game on the PP last year) and is on pace for less goals and abt the same number of pts.
Yikes! It’s worse than I thought, seems like playing with Panarin 5on5 is inflating his stats.

Again good player, just hasn’t shown to be at Batherson’s level.

 

[5cotland]

Laf is performing better than Slaf and has got better year on year. He is an extremely valuable asset to the team. He has also proven that he can perform and drive the team in the playoffs.

Slaf's offense is heavily reliant on PP. Nearly 30% (45% this season) of his points are from the PP compared to Laf's 8%.

 

[AirGut]

Why would that create bad blood with the Rangers? They fired all of them. It’s not like they all collectively decided to throw a coup and run to Montreal on the Rangers. That’s like saying a player who became a free agent because their former team didn’t give them a qualifying offer and signing somewhere else would have bad blood with their former team just because.

Drury came in and cleared house, he was heavily involved in getting Gorton & Davidson fired throughout the process and sent most of the guys Gorton had hired and had been around for 10+ years packing. Like I said, MTL & NYR won't deal with each other for a long time and you can write that in ink, doesn't help that they're historical rivals either.

 

[HuGo Sham]

feels like habs fans are being victimized in a Brady Tkachuk catfight between sens / rags fans lol.
neither team does this, and to address the Scottish dude above, Slaf is 20 y.o and has sucked primarily for two reasons this year (imo) -

the pressure of that contract and St Louis galaxy braining his first line and placing #20 with Dach, who hasn't found his game yet.

And because of that, up until Laine's return, Jake Evans was habs 2nd line C..
make of that what you will

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Not as bad as the garbage you’ve put out there.

What proposal have I made that you consider garbage?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Drury came in and cleared house, he was heavily involved in getting Gorton & Davidson fired throughout the process and sent most of the guys Gorton had hired and had been around for 10+ years packing. Like I said, MTL & NYR won't deal with each other for a long time and you can write that in ink, doesn't help that they're historical rivals either.

I wrote it in light pencil, like most GM’s do.

 

[GAGLine]

How many times do we have to say no?

 

[Golden_Jet]

feels like habs fans are being victimized in a Brady Tkachuk catfight between sens / rags fans lol.
neither team does this, and to address the dude above, Slaf is 20 y.o and has sucked primarily for two reasons this year (imo) -

the pressure of that contract and St Louis galaxy braining his first line and placing #20 with Dach, who hasn't found his game yet.

And because of that, up until Laine's return, Jake Evans was habs 2nd line C..
make of that what you will

Laf would look good at second line centre on habs. Plus he could get himself PP time and some endorsements in Montreal.

Rangers get a PF, it’s win win for both sides. If any small adds needed, can be added.

 

[bernmeister]

Let's remember LaF was hyped as 'the best non generational 1OA since MacKinnon'
he took coupla yrs for his body to grow into/and for him to acquire, ability to skate at NHL level

This was the only thing holding him back, and that is no longer an issue.

He has HUGE upside still

Slaf is a Kreider-esque beast, possibly a better overall shooter. What's not to like.

I def take LaF for now, and acknowledge while he still has more to show, Slaf has signif upside as well

 

[HuGo Sham]

Laf would look good at second line centre on habs. Plus he could get himself PP time and some endorsements in Montreal.

Rangers get a PF, it’s win win for both sides. If any small adds needed, can be added.

Personally I don't think Laf is a C. He's the better player right now, but it feels like a lateral move.
Mtl has Demidov, Hage, Beck, Roy + 2 top 20 / 5 top 50 picks this summer.
They'll figure out their 2C issue that way if Dach doesn't regain his form

 

[5cotland]

He plays 1:30/game this year (VS I guess 0 min/game on the PP last year) and is on pace for less goals and abt the same number of pts.
Yikes! It’s worse than I thought, seems like playing with Panarin 5on5 is inflating his stats.

Again good player, just hasn’t shown to be at Batherson’s level.

That is a hilarious take

Laf averages 1m23s PP TOI with an average of 4x team PP's per game. That is an average of less than 21s of ice time per PP opportunity.

Last year he averaged 1m17s PP TOI with a average of 3x team PPs per game. That's an average of 26s of ice time per PP opportunity

 

[Wondercarrot]

That is a hilarious take

He averages 1:23 PP TOI with an average of 3x team PP's per game. That is an average of 28s TOI per PP.

This is up slightly from an average PP TOI 1:17 from last season.

As for his 'less goals', he is on track to score the same amount of goals and more points than last season.

This just shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

Yes as of last night he was on pace for abt 3 more pts. Please forgive me for this immense miscalculation lol
Also it’s Rangers fans who claim he gets ZERO pp time, and with the PP time he gets he produces /60 at pretty piss poor rate.

Maybe if you staple him to Panarin on the PP as well that will get him the boost he needs.

Anyway this conversation is absurd, he has not shown he’s at Batherson’s level either at the same age or now. It’s not impossible, he’s a good player but it’s not part of the conversation at this point.
Come talk to me when he breaks at least 60pts.

 

[Fantast100]

Either way he's not getting moved.

Exactly. Fans demanding he stays on the team Rangers. Impossible deal.

 

[gritdash60]

I will never undestand the hardon for french names or french speaking players by Montreal. Just as i dont think you are "irish" if your greatgreatgrandpa was born in ireland. But yeah good luck with it.

 

[5cotland]

Yes as of last night he was on pace for abt 3 more pts. Please forgive me for this immense miscalculation lol
Also it’s Rangers fans who claim he gets ZERO pp time, and with the PP time he gets he produces /60 at pretty piss poor rate.

Maybe if you staple him to Panarin on the PP as well that will get him the boost he needs.

Anyway this conversation is absurd, he has not shown he’s at Batherson’s level either at the same age or now. It’s not impossible, he’s a good player but it’s not part of the conversation at this point.
Come talk to me when he breaks at least 60pts.

Hahahaha you expect a player to have much more points with only 21s per PP shift?

......and who the hell brought Batherson into the conversation no one made that comparison

 

[5cotland]

Let's remember LaF was hyped as 'the best non generational 1OA since MacKinnon'
he took coupla yrs for his body to grow into/and for him to acquire, ability to skate at NHL level

This was the only thing holding him back, and that is no longer an issue.

He has HUGE upside still

Slaf is a Kreider-esque beast, possibly a better overall shooter. What's not to like.

I def take LaF for now, and acknowledge while he still has more to show, Slaf has signif upside as well

 

[Wondercarrot]

Hahahaha you expect a player to have much more points with only 21s per PP shift?

......and who the hell brought Batherson into the conversation no one made that comparison

Yes. I expect a player to have more than 0 assists when they are given 2nd unit PP time.
Batherson is a comparison in the other thread which is not especially flattering to Laf, so hopefully you haven’t run out of weirdly deployed emojis.

Anyway you are correct this is the Lafreniere for Slaf thread & while Slaf hit 20g 50pts in his 2nd year and it took Lafreniere until his D+4 year to crack 40pts.
I mean it’s obvious you’d have to add to Lafreniere to get Slafkovsky, but I’m not sure how much.
Though I still don’t know why MTL would consider it other than he’s French.

 

[Kimota]

Bad trade for the habs, Slaf is alot more dynamic in his prime plus hes a BEAST!

When the Hell has he shown that he was dynamic and a beast this year? lol He looks slow as molasse. If this trade happens and I'm Hughes, I'm hiding my face not to laugh in their face and run away like a bandit.

I'm actually shocked there's no more of a pushback from Rangers fans.

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

Yes. I expect a player to have more than 0 assists when they are given 2nd unit PP time.
Batherson is a comparison in the other thread which is not especially flattering to Laf, so hopefully you haven’t run out of weirdly deployed emojis.

Anyway you are correct this is the Lafreniere for Slaf thread & while Slaf hit 20g 50pts in his 2nd year and it took Lafreniere until his D+4 year to crack 40pts.
I mean it’s obvious you’d have to add to Lafreniere to get Slafkovsky, but I’m not sure how much.
Though I still don’t know why MTL would consider it other than he’s French.

Try watching a few Rangers game before making stupid posts.

He gets a few seconds on the second PP unit that gets basically no PP time. The 2nd unit basically comes in when the puck gets cleared at the end of the PP...

 

[5cotland]

Yes. I expect a player to have more than 0 assists when they are given 2nd unit PP time.
Batherson is a comparison in the other thread which is not especially flattering to Laf, so hopefully you haven’t run out of weirdly deployed emojis.

Anyway you are correct this is the Lafreniere for Slaf thread & while Slaf hit 20g 50pts in his 2nd year and it took Lafreniere until his D+4 year to crack 40pts.
I mean it’s obvious you’d have to add to Lafreniere to get Slafkovsky, but I’m not sure how much.
Though I still don’t know why MTL would consider it other than he’s French.

You clearly do not watch the Rangers at all. 1PP gets around 1m40s every PP. 2nd unit is lucky to get 1 attacking opportunity.

Good for Slaf for getting 50 points in D2, was he playing on the third line behind Panarin & Kreider? Was all but 1 of his points from 5v5? Was he playing around 13m a night? No, because various factors are not considered because they do not fit your agenda.

Lafreniere has proven to be the much better player who has improved season on season and performed in the play-offs in 2x seperate runs to the ECF.

 

[Flan the incredible]

I notice no one has talked about Slaf and his point totals or lack of point totals this year. Guy has 2 goals and 1 on the PP in 24 games. Think Montreal jumped the gun with that contract.

 

[5cotland]

When the Hell has he shown that he was dynamic and a beast this year? lol He looks slow as molasse. If this trade happens and I'm Hughes, I'm hiding my face not to laugh in their face and run away like a bandit.

I'm actually shocked there's no more of a pushback from Rangers fans.

I'm trying but some of these poster have no idea what they are talking about.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Try watching a few Rangers game before making stupid posts.

He gets a few seconds on the second PP unit that gets basically no PP time. The 2nd unit basically comes in when the puck gets cleared at the end of the PP...

Yes I’m aware of how 2nd PP unit time works, and he doesn’t get a few seconds (he gets on average about 30 seconds) so sometimes less and sometime more - because that’s how an average works.