Speculation: LA Kings Offseason Thread

[JTeller97]

I would not mind Barbashev for< 4.5 million per year

I'd be shocked if his next deal doesn't start with a 5.

 

[Schrute farms]

I would not mind Barbashev for< 4.5 million per year

With what cap space? That's the problem.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Ah yes, this team's biggest need--a middle six, late 20s, 6 foot winger!

Where are we ever going to find one of those if we don't sign one?

 

[KingsHockey24]

Kings need someone teams are scared of? Why? Put out a line up that can dominate Offensively,Defensively and that should scare the shit outta enough teams! Vegas doesn't have anyone that scares unless you're talking about Keegan Kolesar and "Michael Amadio" and of course William Carrier and ex-Kings Brayden McNabb

Nic Hague beat the shit out of our "tough guy".

 

[jgs]

With what cap space? That's the problem.

You are exactly right. Kings would have to get rid of contracts via trades in order to bring in players listed on this post. Lots of people wanting PLD to come to Kings. Me I would have rather Blake have swung a deal to have gotten Echiel here when the Sabres were trading him.

 

[kinghock]

With what cap space? That's the problem.

With cap space created by trading Arvidsson/More/Iafallo and Durzi

Ah yes, this team's biggest need--a middle six, late 20s, 6 foot winger!

Where are we ever going to find one of those if we don't sign one?

He is 6’1, built like a tank and heavy hitter.

 

[Nasti]

It’s not irrelevant. I don’t know if you’ve ever ran a business before but you always plan ahead ideally and also have contingency plans in case things don’t pan out as you wanted it to. Blake absolutely was trying to find Kopitars successor when he drafted all those centers or have someone competent to spearhead the next group. As it stands we have no centers from the draft that have shown any competency in the position. And here we are PLD inquiries. Try to follow along if you can.

There’s not one person. It’s relevant. Try to think as a businessman rather than an aloof fan.

You are conflating Blake’s mistakes with whether or not Byfield will pan out into what was expected of him. You’re just spinning in circles again, Mr Businessman. Blake looking at PLD has nothing to do with whether Byfield will reach that potential. It has everything to do with the same shortsightedness that caused him to ditch an actual rebuild.

 

[Lt Dan]

You are conflating Blake’s mistakes with whether or not Byfield will pan out into what was expected of him. You’re just spinning in circles again, Mr Businessman. Blake looking at PLD has nothing to do with whether Byfield will reach that potential. It has everything to do with the same shortsightedness that caused him to ditch an actual rebuild.

Regarding the last sentence. I have a feeling that AEG is telling him to win now

 

[FSL KINGS]

Starting to think maybe Blake should pump the breaks on PLD.

Might need to see if the Mathews signing hits any snags.

 

[raswilliam]

Craig Button claiming the ask for PLD starts with Byfield and goes up from there. I'd pass.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Craig Button claiming the ask for PLD starts with Byfield and goes up from there. I'd pass.

Button has no clue what he's talking about.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Craig Button claiming the ask for PLD starts with Byfield and goes up from there. I'd pass.

Easy pass for me. This also sounds like Button is just speculating

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Same shit as last year, where everything for Chychrun starts with Clarke if it's the Kings, but any Canadian team's 7th best prospect and a 5th.

 

[kinghock]

Same shit as last year, where everything for Chychrun starts with Clarke if it's the Kings, but any Canadian team's 7th best prospect and a 5th.

If Winnipeg want Byfield they can trade with Montreal not with LA.

I do not believe PLD has such value with his reputation, etc.

 

[johnjm22]

It's hard to see a deal that works for both teams.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

my tinfoil wants to believe that it's just Brisson asking Luc permission to drive up the price for MTL

 

[Noonan61]

my tinfoil wants to believe that it's just Brisson asking Luc permission to drive up the price for MTL

Luc's former agent, I can very much see this. The whole Pacioretty sign/trade thing at the draft a few years ago and then Patches dropping him the day after. Asking for a favor. I'll put my tinfoil hat on in solidarity.

 

[johnjm22]

I think the Kings interest is genuine. It was so blatantly obvious in the playoffs that the Kings needed another center.

I like Lizotte, but he can't be our 3rd line center.

Brisson is also Toew's agent. Just sayin...

 

[FSL KINGS]

It's hard to see a deal that works for both teams.

Byfield, Kopi, Kempe
Moore, Danault, Fagemo or Grundström
Fiala, Dubious, Kaliyev

Conner, Scheifele, Vilardi
Nino, Perfetti, Ardvidsson
Ehlers, Lowry, Appleton

Wheeler trade or buyout
Can keep Arvidsson or flip at deadline

LA: Lizotte out of top9 & kids get ice time.

 

[johnjm22]

Byfield, Kopi, Kempe
Moore, Danault, Fagemo or Grundström
Fiala, Dubious, Kaliyev

Conner, Scheifele, Vilardi
Nino, Perfetti, Ardvidsson
Ehlers, Lowry, Appleton

Wheeler trade or buyout
Can keep Arvidsson or flip at deadline

LA: Lizotte out of top9 & kids get ice time.

Unless Hellebuyck is coming as well, that probably makes us a worse team.

Massive downgrade on the right side.

That 3rd line has 3 guys who don't play defense and can't win a faceoff.

 

[Telos]

It will be the same old deal until Byfield busts or makes it. And we will torment ourselves with what-ifs all along the way What if Byfield becomes that 1st line center for free? Or what if we had traded him before he busted for literally anything? Honestly, if we were going to trade him, a target like Eichel would have been more ideal. I don't know if PLD is the move now.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Unless Hellebuyck is coming as well, that probably makes us a worse team.

Massive downgrade on the right side.

That 3rd line has 3 guys who don't play defense and can't win a faceoff.

Much better at C.
King's have five million wings that need ice time.
Arvidsson probably gone even without a PLD trade.

With Arvidsson gone anyways it turns from dealing a wing from a position of depth for a center.

Edit: With the cap there's going to be a hole. Is it better to put the hole on wing or at the 3C position?

 

[johnjm22]

It will be the same old deal until Byfield busts or makes it. And we will torment ourselves with what-ifs all along the way What if Byfield becomes that 1st line center for free? Or what if we had traded him before he busted for literally anything? Honestly, if we were going to trade him, a target like Eichel would have been more ideal. I don't know if PLD is the move now.

Even if Byfield works out, the Kings still need another center in the organization long term, so I can see the appeal of PLD.

I just don't think losing Vilardi or QB for PLD makes much sense for us.

Much better at C.
King's have five million wings that need ice time.
Arvidsson probably gone even without a PLD trade.

With Arvidsson gone anyways it turns from dealing a wing from a position of depth for a center.

I doubt PLD is an overall better player than Vilardi. Potentially a downgrade IMO. And Gabe's cap hit will be about half as much.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Even if Byfield works out, the Kings still need another center in the organization long term, so I can see the appeal of PLD.

I just don't think losing Vilardi or QB for PLD makes much sense for us.


I doubt PLD is an overall better player than Vilardi. Potentially a downgrade IMO. And Gabe's cap hit will be about half as much.

Vilardi could turn out to be the better overall player. Dubois is the better center.

King's can keep a bunch of their 4 million dollar wings. This blocks the youth & ties up cap so Lizotte is the 3C.

Next best option at C is probably JT Compher. He's a ufa & will be cheaper than Dubois, but still not cheap & cap will need to be dumped.

Not a lot of good options out there. King's don't have a way to fill the 3C that will hold up in the playoffs.

 

[King'sPawn]