Speculation: LA Kings Offseason Thread

[ScoreZeGoals]

Don't be too sure. Toronto may be the perfect trading partner for this. They need to get some guys in there with Stanley Cup experience after so many disappointments and Doughty has history there. This would make a lot of sense for both teams. And the Tavares contract would end earlier than Doughty.

He's not being traded, and Tavares isn't waiving his NTC. If Toronto makes a big move Marner will be the one traded

 

[YP44]

I'm kind of tired of changing jerseys up, especially with the Kings winning their first cups wearing the current jerseys.

It's pretty uncommon to change jerseys. They might update a bit for the times, but how often does a logo actually change?

I felt this way when LA changed to their current set. It's hard to establish a brand when you keep changing it. However, i do not like the home plate logo so there fore I am goign to try and have my cake and eat it too.

Like I said though if we are stuck with this turd may as well polish it. Get rid of piping and add hem to black would be a huge improvement and keep the cup champ looks.

 

[Schrute farms]

You can keep the current SCup unis - but just give us more games using the retro ones as the 3rd one (besides the home/away SC ones).
And make those available for purchase too.

 

[KINGS17]

I'm kind of tired of changing jerseys up, especially with the Kings winning their first cups wearing the current jerseys.

It's pretty uncommon to change jerseys. They might update a bit for the times, but how often does a logo actually change?

I dunno, ask Luc how a logo changes.

You can keep the current SCup unis - but just give us more games using the retro ones as the 3rd one (besides the home/away SC ones).
And make those available for purchase too.

Nah, the Kings can keep the crap they currently wear as the third jersey. That should satisfy those who are nostalgic for the Dean Lombardi years.

 

[King'sPawn]

I felt this way when LA changed to their current set. It's hard to establish a brand when you keep changing it. However, i do not like the home plate logo so there fore I am goign to try and have my cake and eat it too.

Like I said though if we are stuck with this turd may as well polish it. Get rid of piping and add hem to black would be a huge improvement and keep the cup champ looks.

That's fair. Again, I'm all for updating a jersey to clean it up. But constantly changing brands is just silly. Or even go back to the original Kings logo - just stick with something. The Bruins aren't changing their logo. Or the Habs, Blackhawks, Flyers, Rangers, Red Wings, etc aren't constantly changing it.

It's comes across to me more that some fans want to have their own visual separation from aspect(s) of the Kings organization. When, in all actuality, having new management with a new message will send a new message.

But we're not getting new management anyway, so at best this will serve as another arguing point for an indeterminate amount of time.

 

[Kurrilino]

OK, let's say this upfront- Anze Kopitar is the greatest King of all time. He is a first ballot Hall of Famer and #11 will hang in the rafters.

But, Patrice Bergeron who has almost identical value for his team played his age 37 season at a $2.5mm cap hit with a $1.5 mm base salary. He did this in order to help his team win another Cup. That is where negotiations with Kopitar need to start and end if he really wants to finish his career here. If he wants dramatically more than that, I say pass. This is a business at the end of the day and loyalty only takes you so far. Kopitar has been more than fairly compensated over his career, and now it's time to prove he cares more about winning than he does about how much he is paid.

What negotiations... this needs to end now

 

[bland]

That's fair. Again, I'm all for updating a jersey to clean it up. But constantly changing brands is just silly. Or even go back to the original Kings logo - just stick with something. The Bruins aren't changing their logo. Or the Habs, Blackhawks, Flyers, Rangers, Red Wings, etc aren't constantly changing it.

It's comes across to me more that some fans want to have their own visual separation from aspect(s) of the Kings organization. When, in all actuality, having new management with a new message will send a new message.

But we're not getting new management anyway, so at best this will serve as another arguing point for an indeterminate amount of time.

Constantly?

Ok, KP, tell us just how many "constant" changes the Kings have made to their jerseys in their 56 history.

4? Forget minor tweaks to logos, arms or piping, I am talking significant changes to the look of the jersey.

Forum blue and gold to black and silver, then back to forum blue and black, then back to black and silver.

Yeah, that's an outrageous amount of changes. Once every few generations, with each one signifying the end or an era or beginning of a new one. This fits perfectly in line with team history. Its needed again.

 

[raswilliam]

I wonder what 6’7” Logan Stanley would cost from the jets?

 

[All The Kings Men]

Constantly?

Ok, KP, tell us just how many "constant" changes the Kings have made to their jerseys in their 56 history.

4? Forget minor tweaks to logos, arms or piping, I am talking significant changes to the look of the jersey.

Forum blue and gold to black and silver, then back to forum blue and black, then back to black and silver.

Yeah, that's an outrageous amount of changes. Once every few generations, with each one signifying the end or an era or beginning of a new one. This fits perfectly in line with team history. Its needed again.

If they changed it again it would be about once every ten years.

For a team less than 60 years old that's pretty constant.

 

[King'sPawn]

Constantly?

Ok, KP, tell us just how many "constant" changes the Kings have made to their jerseys in their 56 history.

4? Forget minor tweaks to logos, arms or piping, I am talking significant changes to the look of the jersey.

Forum blue and gold to black and silver, then back to forum blue and black, then back to black and silver.

Yeah, that's an outrageous amount of changes. Once every few generations, with each one signifying the end or an era or beginning of a new one. This fits perfectly in line with team history. Its needed again.

Try looking at other teams. See how many have had "major" changes and when those changes last happened.

By the way, do the Blackhawks need to make a major change to their jersey to signify the end of an era and to start the Bedard one?

 

[kinghock]

I wonder what 6’7” Logan Stanley would cost from the jets?

6’7” Logan Stanley is pretty soft player…

 

[AbsentMojo]

Try looking at other teams. See how many have had "major" changes and when those changes last happened.

By the way, do the Blackhawks need to make a major change to their jersey to signify the end of an era and to start the Bedard one?

Dont you dare even mention changing the Blackhawks jersey - even in jest..
hockey gods im sure took a note : )

 

[King'sPawn]

Dont you dare even mention changing the Blackhawks jersey - even in jest..
hockey gods im sure took a note : )

I just want to make sure the Blackhawks are doing their rebuild correctly. Apparently changing uniforms is a necessity in order for them to launch a new era. But I've also been told they're doing their rebuild right.

So I just feel it's important to hear the explanation of why something MUST be done that isn't fueled by a personal bias.

Chicago has had the same fundamental logo since before the Kings entered the league. Yet they have more cup wins in that span. So why is a major change necessary?

Pretty sure Boston has had the same giant B since the 40s. I don'tvremember when, but they've had a spoked B as long as I can remember. Detroit has had a Winged Wheel for as long as I can remember.

Why aren't these orgs making major changes to their jersey more often to denote different eras?

 

[bland]

Try looking at other teams. See how many have had "major" changes and when those changes last happened.

By the way, do the Blackhawks need to make a major change to their jersey to signify the end of an era and to start the Bedard one?

Wow, you sure are triggered by the Blackhawks, aren't you? Sad. Who cares what Chicago does, it doesn't mean anything to what we are talking about here. Why not look at Pittsburgh, Washington, St Louis, Vancouver, Hartford/Carolina, Calgary, Edmonton, New Jersey, the Isles, Dallas, Arizona, Tampa, etc?

Original 6 compared to a team that has a SPECIFIC history of changing to signify its eras. Gold and Forum blue for 20 odd years until they chose to change for Gretzky.

Silver and black for 10 years until the Gretzky era ended in flames, then forum blue was added back for the move to Staples Center and that new era. Then that lasted for ten years until the Kopitar/Brown/Doughty core hit and the powers dat be chose to usher in a return to the silver and black.

Its been 12 or so years since then. Hardly a quick change, and perfectly in line with the pattern that the organization has followed.

 

[bland]

If they changed it again it would be about once every ten years.

For a team less than 60 years old that's pretty constant.

Constant isn't the right concept though - consistent is the better choice.

Every 10 to 12 years since 88. The currents are the longest of the three since the Gretzky deal, no?

 

[AbsentMojo]

I just want to make sure the Blackhawks are doing their rebuild correctly. Apparently changing uniforms is a necessity in order for them to launch a new era. But I've also been told they're doing their rebuild right.

So I just feel it's important to hear the explanation of why something MUST be done that isn't fueled by a personal bias.

Chicago has had the same fundamental logo since before the Kings entered the league. Yet they have more cup wins in that span. So why is a major change necessary?

Pretty sure Boston has had the same giant B since the 40s. I don'tvremember when, but they've had a spoked B as long as I can remember. Detroit has had a Winged Wheel for as long as I can remember.

Why aren't these orgs making major changes to their jersey more often to denote different eras?

Some logos are better than others.. but your point is taken. I personally never liked the Raiders colors for the Kings.. too much of a copycat thing. So I wouldnt mind a change. I agree it isnt necessary but I'd be on board w it (depending on the new design that is)

 

[King'sPawn]

Wow, you sure are triggered by the Blackhawks, aren't you? Sad. Who cares what Chicago does, it doesn't mean anything to what we are talking about here. Why not look at Pittsburgh, Washington, St Louis, Vancouver, Hartford/Carolina, Calgary, Edmonton, New Jersey, the Isles, Dallas, Arizona, Tampa, etc?

Original 6 compared to a team that has a SPECIFIC history of changing to signify its eras. Gold and Forum blue for 20 odd years until they chose to change for Gretzky.

Silver and black for 10 years until the Gretzky era ended in flames, then forum blue was added back for the move to Staples Center and that new era. Then that lasted for ten years until the Kopitar/Brown/Doughty core hit and the powers dat be chose to usher in a return to the silver and black.

Its been 12 or so years since then. Hardly a quick change, and perfectly in line with the pattern that the organization has followed.

I bring up Chicago because you have been pumping their rebuild. I thought I'd give you the opportunity to speak intelligently on the topic. Let's look at your examples:

Pittsburgh - has either always had the word Pittsburgh or has had a Penguin. Been black and gold since 1980.

Washington: had the hockey stick in Capitals from 74 - 95, changed to the eagle from 95-07, then changed back. 3 major changes in less time than LA

St Louis: has always had a blue note and a brief stint where they added red to their jersey. Are you trolling now with your inane comparisons?

Vancouver: an almost good comparison with the number of changes they've made, except they have had the orca since 97. If the Kings made a change, that would be 3 different looks since Vancouver made changes.

Hartford/Carolina: I wonder why a team that relocated made changes? Oh, Carolina has kept the same look since they relocated.

Calgary: always had the flaming C since 1980.

Edmonton: Same colors and logos, just slightly different hues? Are you seriously arguing they've made significant changes to their jersey?

New Jersey: same horned NJ logo since 1980.

Isles: same NY with a hockey stick since the 70s.

Stars: eh, I'll give you this.

Arizona: all right, sure. I guess you want to emulate a team that hasn't won anything and needs to be relocated. Let's keep following their business practices.

Tampa Bay: has either always had a lightning bolt or the word "Bolts." Gradual change in colors to become more modernized. But sure, went from black to blue ultimately. Not sure this counts as major changes, but it sounds like you need help with your examples.

Kings went from crown, to chevy logo (and new colors), to a beach logo (new colors), to a different crown, to home plate with new colors. And now you want to change it again because the team suddenly needs a new message. And apparently you've deluded yourself into thinking this is common practice.

Take a look at how the Kings' uniforms have changed and evolved over time. And compare it with all the other teams in the league: Los Angeles Kings - The (unofficial) NHL Uniform Database

As a wise man once said: Sad.

There has been NO team who has made changes with the degree or frequency LA has. If you had just led in with "the team always makes changes every 10 or so years, I'm just ready to see it change again" we wouldn't be having this conversation. I'd probably still say I'd like the cup-winning uniforms to stay, but at least we wouldn't have to get into your absolutism absurdity that you're wont to do.

 

[chris kontos]

Imo the most inclusive and appropriate uniform change would be to add a picture of an omlette pan highlight and some accessorys like feathered boas with maybe some large costume jewelry.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Kings' Logos Throughout Their History

(1) Anyone else totally blanking on the 87/88-only design?? I don't recall ever seeing that before now - must've been asleep that year, or something. (2) I hated the "Rollerlion" logo when it first unveiled, but now that logo/scheme is probably my favorite of their's (ulterior motive alert: most of my ratty old stuff is in this scheme, so...).

EDIT: I should point out that there are a few factual errors on that page (e.g., they may want to fact-check who the actual founder of the team was), so "caveat emptor?"

 

[shuchukfan]

I just want a new (or old) logo. The home plate just plain sucks. What's wrong with a crown?

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I’ve never loved the home plate, but I do like silver and black.

I think we should just go back to the Chevy logo and color scheme as our mains. Keep forum blue and gold crowns as our thirds.

And for god sake just do a black or white helmet instead of that embarrassing chrome dome helmet.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Put the crown as the primary on the current jersey, simple and effective. If won't please everyone, but you would find few who think it's not an improvement. The silver and black is never going away, so there's no need in discussing it

 

[FSL KINGS]

Yes, I'm aware of the cap situation and these issues, but Doughty isn't being traded. He has a NTC.

Whether or not this Kings team gets over the hump depends on Byfield, Clarke, Vilardi, and co. taking the next step.

* 7 team trade list this summer.

For me a crown needs to be front and center, not a chev simple or a home plate. At minimum getting rid of the shoulder piping and adding a white hem stripe to the black should be done and would make the jersey very sharp.

Personal preference for me is to have more purple in there too.


Buffalo's D is so deep already

Except on the Right side. They are looking for a vet shutdown guy to run with Power.

6’7” Logan Stanley is pretty soft player…

Draisaitl seems to dislike him. That's a bonus.

Bunting had a stupid elbow right to Cernak's jaw that got Bunting suspended & put Cernak out for the series. There's no place in hockey for plays like that. Also, King's should prepare for the Oilers by targeting those types.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Friedman says he’s heard Arvidsson’s name out there on the trade block for the Kings to clear some space this summer.

 

[Seattle King]

It's not just the frequency of the changes, but also choosing something really bad each time.
Silver is not the color of royalty, its the color of Reno. Black is for ninjas, priests and morticians.
Purple and gold are the colors of royalty, and also look really good together so lets all agree thats what the main color scheme should be.
The crown depicted in many Kings' logos looks like something a cute little princess from a magical kingdom might desire. Let's design a crown that a King might actually wear. Construct it from golden hockey sticks, intertwined with two Stanley Cups.
There is just a ton of low-hanging fruit for the Kings uniform, a little thought and creativity in the world's greatest city for costume design, graphic design and show business should result in something spectacular, and worthy of the team name.