Speculation: LA Kings Offseason Thread

[Johnny Utah]

PLD has attitude and can fight. Remember he pissed off the Kings this year.

Lizotte had one fight and got pumped in Toronto.

 

[johnjm22]

Takeaways / Giveaways Differential (per 60min)

Iafallo +1.18
Vilardi +.43

PLD -.31

 

[bland]

Blake may not have another year for all we know. It’s also obvious he doesn’t view the teams outlook and potential the same way you do.

Yes, I know.

Blake is a lousy GM.

 

[Seattle King]

Takeaways / Giveaways Differential (per 60min)

Iafallo +1.18
Vilardi +.43

PLD -.31

You're like fkn C3PO with all the stats right before we fly into the asteroid field.
Yes, thank you protocol droid, we get that the fancy stats nerds are up in alarm about the odds of successfully navigating this.
Blake is Han Solo here and we are all along for the ride, for better or worse.

 

[johnjm22]

Total Turnovers Per 60

Iafallo .56
Vilardi .97

PLD 2.09 (worst among all Jet forwards)

 

[LAKings88]

I don’t care for PLD at all.

Don’t get the love for him.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

You're like fkn C3PO with all the stats right before we fly into the asteroid field.
Yes, thank you protocol droid, we get that the fancy stats nerds are up in alarm about the odds of successfully navigating this.
Blake is Han Solo here and we are all along for the ride, for better or worse.

Don't tell me the odds!

We won't hope for a breakout with our own guys, and 50+ points draws ire

But we're all in on trading major assets and praying for a breakout for someone else's malcontent 50+ point guy with godawful microstats and tangible lack of effort. Oh, but he boards people once in a while, so people think he's 'tough'.

Meanwhile, our LHD depth sucks and there's a hole at G, but goddamnit, we SURE NEED some more middle six forwards!

 

[johnjm22]

You're like fkn C3PO with all the stats right before we fly into the asteroid field.
Yes, thank you protocol droid, we get that the fancy stats nerds are up in alarm about the odds of successfully navigating this.
Blake is Han Solo here and we are all along for the ride, for better or worse.

These aren't really "fancy" stats though.

Vilardi and Iafallo combined for 11 game winning goals last year. PLD had 1.

PLD doesn't produce much at even strength, doesn't win face offs, isn't good defensively and isn't particularly physical.

 

[BigBrown]

I get pushing in your trade chips for a big play, I'm just not entirely convinced PLD is the guy you go after in that scenario. Especially when your trade chips are good roster players.

 

[kingskring]

These aren't really "fancy" stats though.

Vilardi and Iafallo combined for 11 game winning goals last year. PLD had 1.

PLD doesn't produce much at even strength, doesn't win face offs, isn't good defensively.

PLD was also on a dumpster fire of a team.

We all said the same thing when we made the trades during the trade deadline last yeear

 

[Kudelski37]

I get all the love for Vilardi but if Kopitar retires next year ala Brown then who is the number one center?

Byfield can barely play 3c at this point.

Kings have a number one center one year away from UFA at the age of 35 and a 20 year old heir apparent.

Danault is really a 3C.

So Kings are basically saying Kopi is gone soon, PLD takes over the number one center spot, Danault plays 2C and Byfield 3C.

Danault is better than PLD. If Danault is ideally a 3C, then the Kings would still need a 1C after trading for PLD and Kopitar retiring.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Since the rumor is 'several pieces' , in looking over the Jets roster and prospects,
Dylan Samberg, 24, LHD 6'4" 216 and played 63 games with the Jets last year...and
then team USA at the WC. Played 2 yrs with Mikey Anderson, Minn-Duluth. At least 1 championship team...
Could be a target for the 3rd pairing? Since Edler is gone and they apparently are not
thrilled with Toby. Of course there's Dillon, but he's 33 and has 1 yr left...not a big issue,
he can play and has the size and toughness needed...would be good with Clarke and
protect him...as we know players are going to run Clarke. Of course, they have Heinola,
Lambert, Chaz Lucius, McGroarty, Danny Zhilkin, The 18 OA pick. No second rd picks.

Dylan Samberg

Dylan Samberg - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

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writeup prior to last season: Samberg has the size strength and toughness every NHL GM covets in a defenseman. He has a skillset that complements a simple and straightforward style of game, but the 23-year-old finds himself among a deep pool of defensemen prospects in the Jets' system.

"When he played last year, he was quite confident and actually even looked better maybe in a Jets uniform than he did in a Moose uniform, which is interesting," Hillier said. "There's players ahead of him and that's going to sort itself out in training camp."

Other rumor is Jansen Harkins. C/W 26 yrs old

Jansen Harkins - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

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[Kudelski37]

These aren't really "fancy" stats though.

Vilardi and Iafallo combined for 11 game winning goals last year. PLD had 1.

PLD doesn't produce much at even strength, doesn't win face offs, isn't good defensively.

Yep. This doesn't make sense from any angle.

 

[bland]

IF Kopitar has indicated that he will be leaving next summer, I can get the rush to bring in what they project to be the best available center that they can likely acquire, but man...

If you are going to take a swing, make it the best cut you can. This is a deal of paying a premium just to settle for another diet star - just like Fiala. Its accepting less than the best and has to be an acknowledgement of their own failures as a developmental team.

 

[johnjm22]

PLD was also on a dumpster fire of a team.

We all said the same thing when we made the trades during the trade deadline last yeear

You can compare his stats relative to his teammates.


PLD's 5v5 P/60 rates in Winnipeg, BTW:

22-23 1.78
21-22 1.66
20-21 1.24

These aren't very good. Especially not for a supposed 8-9M center who doesn't play a 2 way game.

 

[dman3474]

Wasn't there a rumor last year that Blake offered Gabe to AZ for Chychrun? Maybe Gabe wants out?

 

[Seattle King]

IF Kopitar has indicated that he will be leaving next summer, I can get the rush to bring in what they project to be the best available center that they can likely acquire, but man...

If you are going to take a swing, make it the best cut you can. This is a deal of paying a premium just to settle for another diet star - just like Fiala. Its accepting less than the best and has to be an acknowledgement of their own failures as a developmental team.

We are deep into the phase of building through free agency and trades now, its been evident since the Fiala deal. After the really weak drafting and development of the Blake regime its the only strategy he has now.

 

[bland]

You're like fkn C3PO with all the stats right before we fly into the asteroid field.
Yes, thank you protocol droid, we get that the fancy stats nerds are up in alarm about the odds of successfully navigating this.
Blake is Han Solo here and we are all along for the ride, for better or worse.

 

[Kudelski37]

IF Kopitar has indicated that he will be leaving next summer, I can get the rush to bring in what they project to be the best available center that they can likely acquire, but man...

If you are going to take a swing, make it the best cut you can. This is a deal of paying a premium just to settle for another diet star - just like Fiala. Its accepting less than the best and has to be an acknowledgement of their own failures as a developmental team.

PLD is several tiers below Fiala.

 

[Herby]

I get all the love for Vilardi but if Kopitar retires next year ala Brown then who is the number one center?

Byfield can barely play 3c at this point.

Kings have a number one center one year away from UFA at the age of 35 and a 20 year old heir apparent.

Danault is really a 3C.

So Kings are basically saying Kopi is gone soon, PLD takes over the number one center spot, Danault plays 2C and Byfield 3C.

Very good points Johnny.

One of the reasons I strongly wanted Eichel and am kind of ok with this is because PLD is QB insurance, if QB ends up as good as RJ thinks then you have QB as a 1C and a high end 2C who could maybe pass as a 1C in PLD who are 21 and 25. If Byfield ends up being what Sol thinks you at least have that guy where you know he's going to get you 60-75 points who is still relatively young.

In the Kings dream scenario you get Kopitar, PLD and Danault for 2-3 years and then you hope that eventually Byfield replaces Kopitar. But if Kopitar decides to retire at the end of his contract or falls off you aren't left completely destroyed at C if QB flops or ends up a winger.

 

[Nasti]

Blake is gonna end up with no forwards in his core who he drafted. They’re all trades, signings, and draft picks by previous GMs. That’s a hard fail after 6 years.

 

[KingsFan7824]

These aren't really "fancy" stats though.

Vilardi and Iafallo combined for 11 game winning goals last year. PLD had 1.

PLD doesn't produce much at even strength, doesn't win face offs, isn't good defensively.

Whatever on any potential trade, but what's a GW goal? If you win 5-1, but you scored the 2nd goal, that gets you 1 in the GWG category. If you win 5-4, but were up 5-2 when you scored the 5th goal, that gets you 1 in the GWG category. That stat is pretty close to +/-.

Blake is gonna end up with no forwards in his core who he drafted. They’re all trades and draft picks by previous GMs. That’s a hard fail after 6 years.

Nobody say anything about 11-12.

 

[johnjm22]

Whatever on any potential trade, but what's a GW goal? If you win 5-1, but you scored the 2nd goal, that gets you 1 in the GWG category. If you win 5-4, but were up 5-2 when you scored the 5th goal, that gets you 1 in the GWG category. That stat is pretty close to +/-.

Okay. But there's a number of stats showing he's not really very impressive.

And I wanted to specifically give a non fancy stat.

 

[BigKing]

Wasn't there a rumor last year that Blake offered Gabe to AZ for Chychrun? Maybe Gabe wants out?

I think Blake and company are scared to give Vilardi money and term based on the injury history and one good season.

Blake has already been burned on one good season extensions.

If Vilardi stays healthy, Winnipeg will win this trade.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Just hacked into the Kings Twitter page and found a scheduled Tweet for July 1st...

Oh my~