Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

[ricardfromage]

And you call that "paradise" in your location info? Sounds more like hell to me – that is, close to the 1980s with no Internet. Your post was superb, though.

Yes but if you saw everything else you would know why it is paradise. I had a moose and her calf in my yard this morning and can't see my neighbor without getting in a vehicle and driving down the road or going for a pretty good walk. I miss parts of cali (mostly the food) and the peoples republic of Canada but everything else is pretty great here (with the exception of the internet nonsense). We are definitely behind the times tech speaking but ya gotta give to get.

 

[FSL KINGS]

He's not going to score more on the Kings than he does on the Oilers, he's a low 30's guy on the Kings at best. How much would an offer sheet have to be, close to $4M? He's going to want more money than he's worth. I just don't see the point, he's 24 and he would be around the 7th or 8th best forward on the team.

Puljujarvi is good at puck pursuit, getting in on the forecheck & getting puck back. That is exactly what the King's are looking for.

As far as his numbers going up on the Kings, the Kings had multiple forwards break out with great offensive seasons last year. It isn't out of the realm of possibility. Not overly concerned about his offensive totals. Looking at a young guy with size, speed that can be defensively sound & can play with Byfield for seasons to come.

If the King's spend all their cap on a Forsberg there won't be money or likely a roster space for a mid range forward. If they get a D, there may be enough space to add a cheaper forward.

 

[Trash Panda]

I live in the wilderness for the most part and my internet is absolutely ridiculous. I pay over $250 per month for a tiny 2 gb. I have tried everything and this is my best option. That with travel I can only post from time to time. Besides, my drivel is only bearable in small amounts. It's like Indian food, sure it is delicious but too much of it and you end up screaming on the toilet, or is that just me?

Starlink is the way to go.

Out here in rural Wyoming and I get 100mbps speed for 99 a month.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

IF we were discussing offer sheets, and they are a long shot, Pulijarvi isnt remotely interesting to me.

On the other hand, Kaapo Kakko is. Rangers cap situation is going to be very interesting.

 

[Taluss]

IF we were discussing offer sheets, and they are a long shot, Pulijarvi isnt remotely interesting to me.

On the other hand, Kaapo Kakko is. Rangers cap situation is going to be very interesting.

I was just coming here to ask if anyone would have interest in offersheeting Kakko. There’s my answer ig haha

Being an attractive destination with a promising upcoming team it wouldn’t shock me if Kakko said yes to an offersheet from LA

 

[Schmooley]

I was just coming here to ask if anyone would have interest in offersheeting Kakko. There’s my answer ig haha

Being an attractive destination with a promising upcoming team it wouldn’t shock me if Kakko said yes to an offersheet from LA

Blake doesnt seem like an offer sheet kind of guy. Its very aggressive for a team with a load of young players and it may come back to bite you later.
I could see a combination of Turcotte Vilardi JAD being traded for Kakko and Nemeth though.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If the Kings are going to offer sheet anyone, I would hope it’s for someone worthwhile who can put pucks into the net and not another player with questionable offense.

 

[Herby]

IF we were discussing offer sheets, and they are a long shot, Pulijarvi isnt remotely interesting to me.

On the other hand, Kaapo Kakko is. Rangers cap situation is going to be very interesting.

I just haven’t seen anything at 18-19-20 that shows he is worth giving up what it would cost with an offer sheet. All it does is add another young player with questionable offensive upside.

I think we should evaluate him more based on 18-19-20 rather than 17.

 

[Fishhead]

Puljujarvi is good at puck pursuit, getting in on the forecheck & getting puck back. That is exactly what the King's are looking for.

As far as his numbers going up on the Kings, the Kings had multiple forwards break out with great offensive seasons last year. It isn't out of the realm of possibility. Not overly concerned about his offensive totals. Looking at a young guy with size, speed that can be defensively sound & can play with Byfield for seasons to come.

If the King's spend all their cap on a Forsberg there won't be money or likely a roster space for a mid range forward. If they get a D, there may be enough space to add a cheaper forward.

I dunno. Right now nothing indicates Puljujarvi is going to be much better than Iafallo, if at all, and if AI was Byfield's future winger a lot of people around here would have a freak-out. I'd be fine with him around the mid-3's. He'd be a risk considering he's coming from an offensively loose system to a more responsible one. He's still pretty young and I think he's a bit misused in Edmonton, so yeah he could progress a bit more or could even break out. He does have size and defensive ability for sure. It would be highly dependent on what he asked for, and it's also a divisional trade.

If we go the RFA route, I'm a bit more intrigued with Necas. I think he could flourish here, as he struggles with the heavier parts of Rod's system in Carolina. We play a similar way, aiming for quick transitions, but aren't quite so heavily reliant on the forecheck. I think he's got a bit more upside than Jarvi and the east-west thing makes it a bit easier. My main worry about Necas is he doesn't shoot enough. He's also less of a two-way guy. For whatever reason Carolina seems to be enamored with Kotkaniemi, which I just don't understand, but I don't see Necas simply taking his QO and they need $$$ to retain/replace Domi, Nino, Stepan, Trocheck, etc.

 

[johnjm22]

Offer sheet compensation:

$1,386,491 - $2,100,742
1 Third Round Pick

$2,100,743 - $4,201,488
1 Second Round Pick

$4,201,489 - $6,302,230
1 First Round Pick
1 Third Round Pick

$6,302,231 - $8,402,975
1 First Round Pick
1 Second Round Pick
1 Third Round Pick

$8,402,976 - $10,503,720
2 First Round Picks
1 Second Round Pick
1 Third Round Pick

 

[johnjm22]

Strome is a UFA. So the Rangers need centers. They really have no proven C after Zibanejad.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Seems like Josh Anderson might be available…big, tough, 28 years old and will pot you about 15-25 goals.

 

[BringTheReign]

The reason why I came here was to ask about Byfield. I know he wasn’t producing much, but what did his play suggest?

He looked excellent over the summer and in preseason, then had the freak ankle injury. After he finally came back, I’d say every third game he’d look solid with flashes of puck carrying greatness or great play down low, but overall he was inconsistent. There’s also the frustrating fact that he never got to play consistently with any of our top players, but frankly we don’t have great depth at wing.

I think he’d benefit most from playing wing and alternating faceoffs with Kopitar and Kempe. Kempe - Kopitar - Byfield would be hell to handle for other teams, and QB could focus on offense while playing with skilled players.

By the way, appreciate the perspective on the NJ players. I think a big difference in comparing does come down to QB not being given the keys like a young Hischier or Kopitar was in terms of top six deployment from the get-go.

 

[BringTheReign]

Do you all think our development staff focuses too much on systems too early? I feel like one thing I remember about young Doughty, Kopitar, Brown, or even Cammalleri and Frolov is that coaches sort of let them loose. They put up points and were minuses, then in later seasons they were reigned in on the defensive side.

 

[KingsFan7824]

What is the last offer sheet that actually worked out? Not the player actually changing teams, but the player being worth the effort of an offer sheet that succeeded.

There's a good reason why they don't happen very often, and it's not because everyone is a gentleman. To get a guy, you have to offer something so stupid, that the other team would actually say no to paying him. In the NHL, where contract after contract after contract is stupid, because teams are desperate for talent. If another team says no to paying a young guy, why do you think he's going to be any good?

No to offer sheets. I'd rather they give Forsberg $70m for 7 years.

 

[Cianide]

You must get three out of four of the following correct:

1) Do you like the Vegas Golden Knights?

2) ________ ________ native Trevor Moore

3) __________ native Jason Robertson (the Dallas Stars guy)

4) ________ _______ native Matt Nieto (the Sharks guys)

1) Heck No!
2)Thousand Oaks. (Where's he from? LOL)
3) Jason Robertson... hmmm..
4) Long Beach (I promise I didn't look that up lol)

3 out of 4 yay!

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

What is the last offer sheet that actually worked out? Not the player actually changing teams, but the player being worth the effort of an offer sheet that succeeded.

There's a good reason why they don't happen very often, and it's not because everyone is a gentleman. To get a guy, you have to offer something so stupid, that the other team would actually say no to paying him. In the NHL, where contract after contract after contract is stupid, because teams are desperate for talent. If another team says no to paying a young guy, why do you think he's going to be any good?

No to offer sheets. I'd rather they give Forsberg $70m for 7 years.

Kotkenami

 

[KingsFan7824]

Kotkenami

What about him? 12g, 29pts. 0g, 2pts in 14 playoff games. A $6m hit, just to have to opportunity to give him 8 years after 29pts. He's the success story?

Stay away from any RFA that another team would willingly let go of.

 

[Docgonzo]

Do you all think our development staff focuses too much on systems too early? I feel like one thing I remember about young Doughty, Kopitar, Brown, or even Cammalleri and Frolov is that coaches sort of let them loose. They put up points and were minuses, then in later seasons they were reigned in on the defensive side.

I’d agree to this for Kopitar, Brown, Frolov and Cammalleri since they had Crawford and it was just offense offense offense. But no on Doughty, Terry Murray didn’t let anybody loose and was all about the system and guarding home plate.

 

[Docgonzo]

What is the last offer sheet that actually worked out? Not the player actually changing teams, but the player being worth the effort of an offer sheet that succeeded.

There's a good reason why they don't happen very often, and it's not because everyone is a gentleman. To get a guy, you have to offer something so stupid, that the other team would actually say no to paying him. In the NHL, where contract after contract after contract is stupid, because teams are desperate for talent. If another team says no to paying a young guy, why do you think he's going to be any good?

No to offer sheets. I'd rather they give Forsberg $70m for 7 years.

Much more prevalent back in the day but current era 90% of the offer sheets are matched. Only ones that haven’t are Penner and Kotenami. But Aho, O’Riely, Hjalmarsson and Weber are the most current ones but they were all matched.

Historically only really Scott Stevens and Brandon Shannahan.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Blake also isn't the type to rock the boat with the other GMs. The guy has cultivated those relationships for years, he's not going to blow them up over Kakko...and I'd say that even if he HADNT played with Chris Drury.

 

[unicornpig]

Do you all think our development staff focuses too much on systems too early? I feel like one thing I remember about young Doughty, Kopitar, Brown, or even Cammalleri and Frolov is that coaches sort of let them loose. They put up points and were minuses, then in later seasons they were reigned in on the defensive side.

100 percent this. Focus on systems is stumping any offensive potential our young players have.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Much more prevalent back in the day but current era 90% of the offer sheets are matched. Only ones that haven’t are Penner and Kotenami. But Aho, O’Riely, Hjalmarsson and Weber are the most current ones but they were all matched.

Historically only really Scott Stevens and Brandon Shannahan.

Right. Anyone slightly worth getting doesn't go anywhere. The Blues were crazy back in the day, and Stevens, despite his unknown future success in NJ(or because he had no idea), wanted absolutely nothing to do with the Devils after he was declared as the compensation for Shanahan. He almost sued his way back to StL.

In the no cap days, offer sheet compensation was outrageous, so few teams did it. With the cap, the compensation is relatively minor, but nobody has the kind of space to waste on a guy that another team is willingly to give up for not a whole lot.

 

[Cianide]

It doesn't need to literally be the words BYFIELD IS A BUST. You're smarter than that. This forum is being extremely pedantic about this and it's f***ing annoying.

There's a large range of people literally calling him a busts and various shades of "better trade him now before it's too late" and "i've seen enough and he doesn't have it" for those to fall in the same category.

You don't need to play these stupid word games, "he's a disappointment" is the same god damn thing, you just add "with time to turn it around" which is a nice necessary disclaimer in this case.

"criticism" is talking about aspects of his play that need improvement and what is going well and not. "Byfield sucks", is a disappointment, doesn't have it, isn't actionable or discussable criticism, it's just a drive by comment similar to 'he's a bust'.

I think Byfield has great potential. He doesn't seem to be getting a fair shot on these boards.

 

[johnjm22]

Slightly OT, but the Crypto markets are crashing.

In November 2021 when the Crypto.com name change was announced, the crypto market was worth 3 trillion dollars. Today it's at 1 trillion and falling.

I wonder if the arena will be getting a new name within the next year or so. We can only hope.