Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

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^^^Allan Walsh debunked that a couple years ago. There’s always ways around taxes for those with money, and if you have the people advising you that you SHOULD have with that amount of money, it makes little difference where you play.
I think you notice that every player in almost every sport has some sort of charitable organization they start. I'm sure they want to do a lot for their communities, but they sure are great for 1) employing their spouse/relativves and 2) generating tax breaks.
 
one thing against this is that Kopitar is constantly brought up by the players as being one of the toughest players to play against. Many oilers said it was eye opening in their series.
Yea hes a great shutdown 3rd center if he cant drive the offense anymore. Probably by the end of next season. He will have an offensive resurgence for a good chunk of the season if they get a Forsberg or Pastrnak on his wing.
 
Not sure what Yanatti has done to get a new contracts. With all these top draft picks we still don’t have a single top 6 forward drafted.

Looks like you didn't even read the article... that or you think he has only been with the organization for the past 3 years.

Yannetti joined the Kings more than 10 years prior, first holding the role as Co-Director with Mike Futa. During his time working with then GM Dean Lombardi, Yannetti was instrumental in bringing a bevy of players to the Kings as they built a Stanley Cup winning roster — including guys like Drew Doughty, Alec Martinez, Kyle Clifford, Tyler Toffoli, Dwight King, Jordan Nolan, Tanner Pearson and Adrian Kempe <---- no top 6 forward drafted? did you miss the All-Star game this year buddy?

More recently, Yannetti has spearheaded efforts to restock the Kings pipeline and ultimately earning the club numerous accolades for their top-ranked prospect pool. This includes the drafting of Mikey Anderson, Tobias Bjornjot, Quinton Byfield, Brandt Clarke, Arthur Kaliyev, Alex Turcotte, Brock Faber, Akil Thomas, and Jordan Spence. He was also involved in work done behind the scenes to acquire Sean Durzi, Carl Grundstrom, and Cal Petersen.
 
A perfect rebuild?

Wow, I guess I have a different meaning for the word perfect. I think it’s just a lazy opinion that is often posted on the main board, people associated LA with a rebuild for a few years then they had a good season and people kind of assumed it was on the back of all the high picks but it was really just on the backs of veterans brought in by trade or UFA. How can you have a perfect rebuild when 3 of the highest picks have struggled so much to break through to the NHL level?

As far as the extension, not surprising, the only area this management team likes to make any kind of changes is with the coaching staff at the NHL and AHL level.

If Kopitar falls off hard next season and the centers that Yanetti and Blake drafted to replace him continue to disappoint and they miss the playoffs (a distinct possibility) the blame will as usual fall on the coach.

Blake is entering his sixth season and will have had 7 different head coaches between LA and Ontario while everyone else in the organization is extended.
 
A perfect rebuild?

Wow, I guess I have a different meaning for the word perfect. I think it’s just a lazy opinion that is often posted on the main board, people associated LA with a rebuild for a few years then they had a good season and people kind of assumed it was on the back of all the high picks but it was really just on the backs of veterans brought in by trade or UFA. How can you have a perfect rebuild when 3 of the highest picks have struggled so much to break through to the NHL level?

As far as the extension, not surprising, the only area this management team likes to make any kind of changes is with the coaching staff at the NHL and AHL level.

If Kopitar falls off hard next season and the centers that Yanetti and Blake drafted to replace him continue to disappoint and they miss the playoffs (a distinct possibility) the blame will as usual fall on the coach.

Blake is entering his sixth season and will have had 7 different head coaches between LA and Ontario while everyone else in the organization is extended.
Wrobo was clearly a personal issue and WDJ (regardless of whatever his official title) was never anything other than a place holder to facilitate a tank and waiting to TMac to be available. Sothers also just wasn’t extended, he didn‘t fail they just altered approach. Hajt, who I assume you are counting (as I’m otherwise forgetting someone) was never appointed as head coach. So the implication that he’s made 7 coaches the scapegoat is inaccurate and disingenuous.
 
Wrobo was clearly a personal issue and WDJ (regardless of whatever his official title) was never anything other than a place holder to facilitate a tank and waiting to TMac to be available. Sothers also just wasn’t extended, he didn‘t fail they just altered approach. Hajt, who I assume you are counting (as I’m otherwise forgetting someone) was never appointed as head coach. So the implication that he’s made 7 coaches the scapegoat is inaccurate and disingenuous.
Hiring a terrible coach to facilitate a tank is a terrible strategy. And defending said terrible strategy is mind boggling.

What if TMac wasn't available when he was? Was Blake going to keep Desjardins as a placeholder? Was he going to hire a different terrible coach as a placeholder? Or was he going to hire a decent coach now that he tanked?
 
Hello Kings fans,
Trying to deal with the boredom of my team, the Wild, golfing right now and making up some fantasy rosters. I came upon the speculation of a possible Byfield trade. Has anyone heard of any truth around that even being a possibility or is this just another of those random speculations of a writer who just wants to stir the pot?
 
Hello Kings fans,
Trying to deal with the boredom of my team, the Wild, golfing right now and making up some fantasy rosters. I came upon the speculation of a possible Byfield trade. Has anyone heard of any truth around that even being a possibility or is this just another of those random speculations of a writer who just wants to stir the pot?
Really doubt that he’s available for anything less than a massive overpayment by someone. I feel he’s on target to making significant improvements over the next couple of seasons and I’d prefer he did that with LA. To me,it’s just people posting just to see their own posts.
 
Really doubt that he’s available for anything less than a massive overpayment by someone. I feel he’s on target to making significant improvements over the next couple of seasons and I’d prefer he did that with LA. To me,it’s just people posting just to see their own posts.
This was my thinking also, figured I would ask here as you all should know quite a bit more about your own prospect than I would. Didn't make much sense to me to try him after only a few seasons unless they are really trying to rush their rebuild which just seems silly.
 
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...and if they fail to make the playoffs next season when/if Danault doesn't have another career year offensively?

Again, how the Kings made the playoffs this past season is more important than them making the playoffs.

They made the playoffs with a blueline composed of Sean Durzi, Olli Maatta, Matt Roy, Jordan Spence, Troy Stecher, and Jacob Moverare, one line performing consistently, dreadful special teams play, and with a 36-year-old goaltender in net.

That clearly won't be sustainable for another season, and we can't expect them to overachieve and make the playoffs yet again solely based on gutsy efforts for players who exceeded expectations.

It's just as likely for them to miss the playoffs as it is for them to make it next season, hence why this offseason is so important, and why they need more from the young players coming up. This team can't rely on Kopitar to be the offensive leader on this team when he's going to disappear for half the season, and his over usage is a big factor as to why both the PP and PK were both horrendous.

While I am optimistic for the youth and future outlook, there are still quite a few uncertainties looming over the team that need to be addressed this offseason.
 
...and if they fail to make the playoffs next season when/if Danault doesn't have another career year offensively?

Again, how the Kings made the playoffs this past season is more important than them making the playoffs.

List all the ways they made the playoffs. List everything that worked against them making the playoffs. Can anything go right next year? Or will anything that went right this year inevitably decrease, with nothing to counteract it?

And no counting Durzi and dumb luck or anything. That's using forethought to have enough organizational depth in case of injury. DL never got lucky, he was always thinking about the next move in that beautiful straight progression up the mountain.
 
List all the ways they made the playoffs. List everything that worked against them making the playoffs. Can anything go right next year? Or will anything that went right this year inevitably decrease, with nothing to counteract it?

And no counting Durzi and dumb luck or anything. That's using forethought to have enough organizational depth in case of injury. DL never got lucky, he was always thinking about the next move in that beautiful straight progression up the mountain.
A lot can go right next year, and it can start with at least two, maybe three, of the "kids" being in top six and producing offense. That would be progress in the rebuild.

If you want to equate Durzi, who was way down on the depth chart, coming in this season as an injury fill-in to Voynov taking over for Johnson after he was traded for Carter, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. The two situations are not even remotely in the same ballpark.

Your hatred for Lombardi is hard to understand.
 
Wrobo was clearly a personal issue and WDJ (regardless of whatever his official title) was never anything other than a place holder to facilitate a tank and waiting to TMac to be available. Sothers also just wasn’t extended, he didn‘t fail they just altered approach. Hajt, who I assume you are counting (as I’m otherwise forgetting someone) was never appointed as head coach. So the implication that he’s made 7 coaches the scapegoat is inaccurate and disingenuous.
It is not at all. The young players (who have largely struggled) have been through all these different coaches which has clearly had an effect. You can make excuses or justify the firings, or the mutual parting of ways or the “altered approach” but with each of these it’s a new voice for young Kings players.

Take a guy like Turcotte, assuming he is in the AHL again next season that will be his 5th head coach he will have played for since being drafted (Granato, Wrobo, Hajt, TMac, new AHL coach (Sturm?) ). That is terrible for the development of a player to have so many different voices and approaches in the most important development years 18-20. But then again that development was a Master Class in how not to develop youth so a new coach every year can just be added to that.
 
Not that I would be too keen on it, but I wonder if Blake & Co. could be swooned by OEL @ 50% retention from Vancouver.
 
Hello Kings fans,
I came upon the speculation of a possible Byfield trade. Has anyone heard of any truth around that even being a possibility or is this just another of those random speculations of a writer who just wants to stir the pot?

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Hello Kings fans,
Trying to deal with the boredom of my team, the Wild, golfing right now and making up some fantasy rosters. I came upon the speculation of a possible Byfield trade. Has anyone heard of any truth around that even being a possibility or is this just another of those random speculations of a writer who just wants to stir the pot?

People will tell you there is zero chance that QB is traded. Just as there was zero chance Schenn was being traded.

But since the lockout the following top 5 picks have all been traded pretty early on in their careers.

Jack Johnson
Phil Kessel
Tyler Seguin
Brayden Schenn
Nino Niederietter
Kyle Turris
Griffin Reinhart
Seth Jones
Dylan Strome
Patrik Laine
PL Dubois
Nolan Patrick

Not saying it's a guarantee, or that it is even likely but the Kings have a serious issue with a lack of high end pieces. If there is any doubt in the organization that QB is going to be a 1C and if he still has very high value it is something they should certainly consider (similar situation to Schenn who ended upo being a 2C).
 
People will tell you there is zero chance that QB is traded. Just as there was zero chance Schenn was being traded.

But since the lockout the following top 5 picks have all been traded pretty early on in their careers.

Jack Johnson
Phil Kessel
Tyler Seguin
Brayden Schenn
Nino Niederietter
Kyle Turris
Griffin Reinhart
Seth Jones
Dylan Strome
Patrik Laine
PL Dubois
Nolan Patrick

Not saying it's a guarantee, or that it is even likely but the Kings have a serious issue with a lack of high end pieces. If there is any doubt in the organization that QB is going to be a 1C and if he still has very high value it is something they should certainly consider (similar situation to Schenn who ended upo being a 2C).
Very true, if there are serious doubts right now, pursue it. As most people I dont think he is up for trade without a severe overpay but obviously as soon as one person speculate its the tires start to turn and people flock to the idea.
 
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