Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[Schrute farms]

Who gives an NHL coach a 5 year contract? Especially one who just got fired a few months ago. Let alone making him the highest paid coach. This guy should have been begging for the job on the cheap. at best, he should have gotten a three year deal.

BTW, it would be so the Kings if they won tonight in regulation (like 2-0 or 3-1). Then proceeded to lose 7-1 the follow game.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Who gives an NHL coach a 5 year contract? Especially one who just got fired a few months ago. Let alone making him the highest paid coach. This guy should have been begging for the job on the cheap. at best, he should have gotten a three year deal.

BTW, it would be so the Kings if they won tonight in regulation (like 2-0 or 3-1). Then proceeded to lose 7-1 the follow game.

Tell us you know nothing about pro sports without saying it explicitly.....

 

[Ben Grimm]

Kings' Sean Durzi Learns What It Means to Be an NHL Star

Sean Durzi may have been booed heavily by the fans of the team that drafted him, but he's focused on something else as he steps up a level.

thehockeynews.com

 

[Kurrilino]

I’m not saying that I’m advocating for that particular trade, but Kempe and Roy are currently are able to be replaced from within by youth that needs ice time, whereas a physical LHD is not readily available.

Factor in salaries, and it’s east to see why Columbus would hang up the phone and block Robs number.

We can replace a 30+ goal scorer from within?

Do you mind me asking who you have in mind?

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

We can replace a 30+ goal scorer from within?

Do you mind me asking who you have in mind?

Fagemo....

 

[Trash Panda]

We can replace a 30+ goal scorer from within?

Do you mind me asking who you have in mind?

The Kings do not have a single 30 goal scorer.

Kempe floating his way to a career year with an extraordinary shooting percentage one time doesn’t constitute a 30 goal guy. How’s that working out this year? Or any year prior.

Dude is the poster child for one-dimensional winger where puck possession goes to die.

 

[Mats26]

We'll have some cap space this off season. Vilardi won't cost much if his 2nd half of the season will be like his last 10 games. Anderson betting on himself might of backfired. 4 per tops is my guess. With 16-20 million in cap we should be able to sign Vilardi, Moore and Anderson with plenty left to replace Walker + Edler with options to consider Spence or Clarke to the D core for next year.

Goaltending is where this rebuild will hit a wall. Can't win with the worse tending in the league. Cal's contract screwed us last offseason and probably will again this year.

To me it's simple, he is either the #1 goaltender next year or we buy him out... period.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Disagree, because all I've seen lately, is how this roster is poorly constructed etc....

Not saying they are right or wrong, but I am saying the argument is continually being made this is a poorly constructed roster, so....either it is......and you are wrong.......or it's not...and you are right.....

I happen to think there is a hole on LD, I wanted to see a Chycrun trade depending on cost....but thats the whole I thought we needed to fill.....after Fiala....

Okay that's fair--but I think most of us agree that the roster issues are LHD and goaltending, AKA it's a flawed roster, not a broken one--in other words, not good enough to take on the Colorados and TBLs in a series but good enough to take on the Oilers, Flames, Seattle.

The 'poor construction' comments allude to my thoughts on the ageism.

 

[KingsFan7824]

We'll have some cap space this off season. Vilardi won't cost much if his 2nd half of the season will be like his last 10 games. Anderson betting on himself might of backfired. 4 per tops is my guess. With 16-20 million in cap we should be able to sign Vilardi, Moore and Anderson with plenty left to replace Walker + Edler with options to consider Spence or Clarke to the D core for next year.

Goaltending is where this rebuild will hit a wall. Can't win with the worse tending in the league. Cal's contract screwed us last offseason and probably will again this year.

To me it's simple, he is either the #1 goaltender next year or we buy him out... period.

Going by capfriendly, Petersen's cap hit would be worse next year than it currently is if they bought him out. Better after that though. Wait until 2024 to do the buyout, then there's actual cap savings in the first year.

I would guess, because the hit would be worse next year, and the additional seasons of dead cap, they don't buy him out in June. Short or long term it doesn't make sense. Other than a roster spot for a goalie next year.

Keep Petersen another year, one more chance. If he sucks, it can only help get a better pick, which is what the Kings need anyway. Not much reason to be in a rush to buy Cal out.

 

[Mats26]

Going by capfriendly, Petersen's cap hit would be worse next year than it currently is if they bought him out. Better after that though. Wait until 2024 to do the buyout, then there's actual cap savings in the first year.

I would guess, because the hit would be worse next year, and the additional seasons of dead cap, they don't buy him out in June. Short or long term it doesn't make sense. Other than a roster spot for a goalie next year.

Keep Petersen another year, one more chance. If he sucks, it can only help get a better pick, which is what the Kings need anyway. Not much reason to be in a rush to buy Cal out.

It would be the Kings way to keep bad contracts until they "run out". We shouldn't keep a goalie making 5 million in the AHL next year. He is either our #1 or we take the hit and move on.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Okay that's fair--but I think most of us agree that the roster issues are LHD and goaltending, AKA it's a flawed roster, not a broken one--in other words, not good enough to take on the Colorados and TBLs in a series but good enough to take on the Oilers, Flames, Seattle.

The 'poor construction' comments allude to my thoughts on the ageism.

Sounds better.....not sure there are teams that can take on a healthy COL or TB at this point, in a series...but thats the fun of watching

 

[kings11]

Yes, but I'm saying it's not his fault TMac is trying to use him as an all around Dman.

It's ludicrous that he's being played 20 minutes per night.

He's a bottom pair Dman and PP specialist. You utilize him in that fashion, and he can be an asset not a liability.

Yes he is a bottom pairing and PP specialist on a team that doesn’t have Brandt Clarke or Jordan Spence and even Helge Grans..
but ^^^^^ this is our reality, he’s only better than Grans and it’s marginally..

Heck, at this point I would say f*** it and just convert him to a winger and let him go ala AA last season

 

[Statto]

Disagree, because all I've seen lately, is how this roster is poorly constructed etc....

Not saying they are right or wrong, but I am saying the argument is continually being made this is a poorly constructed roster, so....either it is......and you are wrong.......or it's not...and you are right.....

I happen to think there is a hole on LD, I wanted to see a Chycrun trade depending on cost....but thats the whole I thought we needed to fill.....after Fiala....

It becomes a poorly constructed active roster when Björnfot and Spence are in the AHL whilst Clarke isn’t playing. Walker should have been waived and I don’t think anyone here seriously thought they’d get his value above that of a mid-late round pick. At no stage has he done anything to suggest he will garner more than that, so there’s the first issue because playing him over Spence and/or Clarke has been a complete waste of time.

We get Edler who at this point I now think was signed because of a lack of leadership on the roster. The problem is he cannot play 82 games yet is in a key on ice role. In truth he should be the 7th D every night, but instead he needs to play until he get taken out for a rest now and then. When he is in our best 6 D it’s a poor situation to be in, there must have been better/younger options. The mess of the left side is definitely poor roster construction and we miss Maatta. Whilst I always thought we underrated the guy on here, losing him should never have caused this much of an issue.

As for the right, it’s even a bigger mess. Durzi is a defensive mess, Roy is regressing and Walker isn’t doing much of anything. Our best/most important two RHD (Clarke/Spence), who will quickly surpass everyone else in the position, cannot get into the lineup. Instead we have Doughty playing stupid minutes because other guys cannot be trusted.

However it’s also about how the roster is used, Björnfot sitting is just mind boggling. Spence sitting for one game following his recall, given the lack of time to prepare, I’ll accept but after that sit guys (one of Roy and Durzi) that aren’t performing.

 

[kings11]

We can replace a 30+ goal scorer from within?

Do you mind me asking who you have in mind?

Fiala
Kaliyev
Vilardi

Next question

 

[crassbonanza]

Tell us you know nothing about pro sports without saying it explicitly.....

Questioning a coach getting a 5 year contract with such a high salary who has never won anything is not ridiculous in any way. TMac signed a deal that was nearly identical to Quenneville just days apart and I don't think anyone would accuse TMac of having anywhere close to the same success as Q. For an example of why giving a 5 year deal is not the greatest idea, TMac is currently the 6th longest tenured head coach in the league and he is only 2.5 years through his deal.

How does your vast knowledge of pro sports explain that?

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Questioning a coach getting a 5 year contract with such a high salary who has never won anything is not ridiculous in any way. TMac signed a deal that was nearly identical to Quenneville just days apart and I don't think anyone would accuse TMac of having anywhere close to the same success as Q. For an example of why giving a 5 year deal is not the greatest idea, TMac is currently the 6th longest tenured head coach in the league and he is only 2.5 years through his deal.

How does your vast knowledge of pro sports explain that?

Well first, you have to take into account, the status of each club, would you want to coach a club with at the time, Huberdeau, Barkov, Ekblad all in their prime, or a rebuilding LA team with big question marks?

Then you have to take into account travel/away from family, much more in LA than in FL....and those two things alone, mean you have to overpay to get a quality coach.....

But yea....I have no f***ing idea what I am talking about....forgot about that, you are right, the hired him SOLELY BASED ON HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH BLAKE.....there you go, that makes more f***ing sense...right?

 

[YP44]

We'll have some cap space this off season. Vilardi won't cost much if his 2nd half of the season will be like his last 10 games. Anderson betting on himself might of backfired. 4 per tops is my guess. With 16-20 million in cap we should be able to sign Vilardi, Moore and Anderson with plenty left to replace Walker + Edler with options to consider Spence or Clarke to the D core for next year.

Goaltending is where this rebuild will hit a wall. Can't win with the worse tending in the league. Cal's contract screwed us last offseason and probably will again this year.

To me it's simple, he is either the #1 goaltender next year or we buy him out... period.

I would almost leave Cal in the AHL than have the buyout cost for twice as long, but I agree #1 Goalie needs to be top priority. I doubt they move him but I would ask Nashville about Saros or Askarov.

 

[LAKings88]

Questioning a coach getting a 5 year contract with such a high salary who has never won anything is not ridiculous in any way. TMac signed a deal that was nearly identical to Quenneville just days apart and I don't think anyone would accuse TMac of having anywhere close to the same success as Q. For an example of why giving a 5 year deal is not the greatest idea, TMac is currently the 6th longest tenured head coach in the league and he is only 2.5 years through his deal.

How does your vast knowledge of pro sports explain that?

Not a Tmac defender or hater really. He seems to come off as a well spoken dude and has earned some respect from me. I do think there are always areas he could improve on i.e. adjusting quicker and roster decisions.

I thought Blake said a reason for the 5 year deal was a message to the players. That he was gonna be there for awhile so get used to it kinda thing.

 

[BringTheReign]

Who gives an NHL coach a 5 year contract? Especially one who just got fired a few months ago. Let alone making him the highest paid coach. This guy should have been begging for the job on the cheap. at best, he should have gotten a three year deal.

BTW, it would be so the Kings if they won tonight in regulation (like 2-0 or 3-1). Then proceeded to lose 7-1 the follow game.

He won a Cup with Detroit as an assistant and came up in the coaching tree of Mike Babcock when that still meant something good. We had to give him extra years and extra dollars to get him to come to a rebuild, plain and simple. I agree that he is showing this season that he isn't the right coach for this team, but saying he should have come for cheap is ridiculous. Look at NHL coaching jobs. It's a carousel of similar names, and if you've got a Cup on your resume or have come from a successful organization you're going to be even more in demand.

He's got 150 more wins than losses even after going through the Kings rebuild, and as much as we love bashing the Sharks he got them into the 2nd or 3rd round half the seasons he was there. Most teams would kill for that type of playoff record (especially owners making home game revenue).

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

It becomes a poorly constructed active roster when Björnfot and Spence are in the AHL whilst Clarke isn’t playing. Walker should have been waived and I don’t think anyone here seriously thought they’d get his value above that of a mid-late round pick. At no stage has he done anything to suggest he will garner more than that, so there’s the first issue because playing him over Spence and/or Clarke has been a complete waste of time.

We get Edler who at this point I now think was signed because of a lack of leadership on the roster. The problem is he cannot play 82 games yet is in a key on ice role. In truth he should be the 7th D every night, but instead he needs to play until he get taken out for a rest now and then. When he is in our best 6 D it’s a poor situation to be in, there must have been better/younger options. The mess of the left side is definitely poor roster construction and we miss Maatta. Whilst I always thought we underrated the guy on here, losing him should never have caused this much of an issue.

As for the right, it’s even a bigger mess. Durzi is a defensive mess, Roy is regressing and Walker isn’t doing much of anything. Our best/most important two RHD (Clarke/Spence), who will quickly surpass everyone else in the position, cannot get into the lineup. Instead we have Doughty playing stupid minutes because other guys cannot be trusted.

However it’s also about how the roster is used, Björnfot sitting is just mind boggling. Spence sitting for one game following his recall, given the lack of time to prepare, I’ll accept but after that sit guys (one of Roy and Durzi) that aren’t performing.

So then, that goes back to my point, when RJ was saying this roster could contend.......your contention...is that it can't.....

Not going to go in depth about your evaluation of the D men, only to go....WTF are you smoking, Clarke has the POTENTIAL to be good, he's not good this year, he's played 9 NHL games...and has shown sparks...he's been good at times, and has been shit other times....that's expected as a 18 year old playing D etc... but if you want this team in contention, Clarke isn't playing on it....simple as that. As far as Spence....he played well last year, and then did not in the playoffs, he's working on his game....so do you want him working on his game and getting crushed in the NHL, or in the AHL which is where players are supposed to work on their game?

Everyone is bitching about not seeing the shiny new toys, that they forget the shiny new toys, need work.

 

[YP44]

He won a Cup with Detroit as an assistant and came up in the coaching tree of Mike Babcock when that still meant something good. We had to give him extra years and extra dollars to get him to come to a rebuild, plain and simple. I agree that he is showing this season that he isn't the right coach for this team, but saying he should have come for cheap is ridiculous. Look at NHL coaching jobs. It's a carousel of similar names, and if you've got a Cup on your resume or have come from a successful organization you're going to be even more in demand.

He's got 150 more wins than losses even after going through the Kings rebuild, and as much as we love bashing the Sharks he got them into the 2nd or 3rd round half the seasons he was there. Most teams would kill for that type of playoff record (especially owners making home game revenue).

Imagine what the Sharks could have done with someone different? Those teams were so good.

 

[Magicman]

I fully expect McLellan to be relieved of his coaching duties Friday morning.

Just a hunch, nothing more.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

So then, that goes back to my point, when RJ was saying this roster could contend.......your contention...is that it can't.....

Not going to go in depth about your evaluation of the D men, only to go....WTF are you smoking, Clarke has the POTENTIAL to be good, he's not good this year, he's played 9 NHL games...and has shown sparks...he's been good at times, and has been shit other times....that's expected as a 18 year old playing D etc... but if you want this team in contention, Clarke isn't playing on it....simple as that. As far as Spence....he played well last year, and then did not in the playoffs, he's working on his game....so do you want him working on his game and getting crushed in the NHL, or in the AHL which is where players are supposed to work on their game?

Everyone is bitching about not seeing the shiny new toys, that they forget the shiny new toys, need work.

His contention is not that it can't, it's that many of the pieces are there and being misused by coach and GM. You're bending it to suit your argument.

No one is suggesting the kids DONT need work, only that the coaching staff isn't giving it to them in favor of vets who are...leading us nowhere. So why not start integrating the future?

I fully expect McLellan to be relieved of his coaching duties Friday morning.

Just a hunch, nothing more.

I want to expect big things after this roadie.

But something tells me they'll just waive grundstrom and be done with it.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

His contention is not that it can't, it's that many of the pieces are there and being misused by coach and GM. You're bending it to suit your argument.

No one is suggesting the kids DONT need work, only that the coaching staff isn't giving it to them in favor of vets who are...leading us nowhere. So why not start integrating the future?



I want to expect big things after this roadie.

But something tells me they'll just waive grundstrom and be done with it.

Isn't Spence getting top line minutes in the AHL? How is that not getting work?

Clarke, you can 100% make that argument, he's not getting the GAME work, but he is working in practice....was he not?

And thank you for clarifying his contention, I easily could have and I guess did read that wrong....

But Byfield, Spence, Bjornfoot, were all getting the work they needed.....were they not?

 

[tny760]

I fully expect McLellan to be relieved of his coaching duties Friday morning.

Just a hunch, nothing more.

i think that would be the prudent decision but i somehow doubt it