Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

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Trash Panda

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Maybe, but no one knows that for certain. If the Kings tanked and had top 5 picks in 6 of those 7 years since 2005, including multiple #1's would they? Didn't work for Edmonton. Florida had a ton during that same era, still haven't made it past the 2nd round. The Islanders had a bunch of top 5 picks in that timeframe as well and were the best of that bunch, but they never made it to the final even with Trotz at the helm. Now they are trending down again.

Who of those teams are closer to contending than the Kings? I would say the NYI are the only one and to be honest they are in about the same spot. Florida is old, too. Quick and Edler's contracts run out after this season, if they go the Kings will be among the league's youngest teams. Rebuilds are hard, and no matter what path is chosen things can get screwed up. There are certainly no absolutes. I take heart in the fact that they haven't completely screwed this one up.
Management hasn’t screwed anything up because they haven’t chose a direction to go in (at least from the outside perspective).

If they wanted to a competitive re-tool, it’s been a vanilla bowl of meh.

If they wanted a fire sale rebuild, they have missed the mark by a while, as holding onto glory year vets by signing and holding onto bloated contracts have only hindered what could have been.

If they wanted to tread water to keep butts in seats, that mark was missed with years of missed playoffs and misguided roster decisions, although they are mighty close to years of that particular desired outcome at this point.

I honestly have no clue which direction the current management team wants to go, but I’m all but certain that the direction the team is headed is gonna bring us back to the Dave Taylor black hole days.
 
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#1 2023, Kempe, Fagemo, Bjornfot, Walker

Chychrun, Crouse

Crouse - Kopitar - Fiala
Arvidsson - Danault - Vilardi
Iafallo - Byfield - Moore
Grundstrom Lizotte - Kaliyev

Anderson - Doughty
Chychrun - Durzi
Roy - Clarke
 
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King'sPawn

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#1 2023, Kempe, Fagemo, Bjornfot, Walker

Chychrun, Crouse

Crouse - Kopitar - Fiala
Arvidsson - Danault - Vilardi
Iafallo - Byfield - Moore
Grundstrom Lizotte - Kaliyev

Anderson - Doughty
Chychrun - Durzi
Roy - Clarke
The Kings aren't a Chychrun and Crouse away from being good, and that's an absurd package.

Not that the Kings should tank, but they would benefit more from trying to accumulate more picks than trading away prospects to "go for it."
 

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The Kings aren't a Chychrun and Crouse away from being good, and that's an absurd package.

Not that the Kings should tank, but they would benefit more from trying to accumulate more picks than trading away prospects to "go for it."
Too much wrong at this point to blow assets trying to fix. Team needs to fix it themselves.

Maybe move a player or 2 out to bring in some youth at some point.
 

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Rough stretch of games, to say the least. That 4 game winning streak seems like a lifetime ago.

If they lose to the Sharks I gotta believe there will be a shake-up of some sort. Probably nothing in terms of management or coaching but maybe some player movement, be it by trade or just shuffle some seats with Ontario.
 

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Was it, though?

He was thriving in those roles until his rough injury. And unfortunately his game was/is predicated on mobility. We wont see him at his best again until later this season/next season if at all.

I think most people had him pegged as a good second pairing guy and for a guy who took some shifts next to Doughty and didn't look out of place I think that's fair. Walker's biggest 'problem' in general, at leats up till the injury, was not having one standout characteristic. His versatility is what makes him useful...but not anymore on this roster since we're 3D printing 5'11ish 200lb ish goodish skating #4-#6 RHDs.
I think those of us (me included) saying #3 and above definitely were overly ambitious when looking at his upside. I think his versatility and general all around game seemed to influence that. Without the injury I’d agree he’d at least be in the conversation as one of the guys we’d consider keeping. My main point though is that AT THE TIME (for others not you RJ) was ok and IIRC was generally considered great business by Blake. Obviously the knee injury and other factors change the landscape but it’s not reasonable to judge this deal with hindsight.

Chychrun isn’t the answer. Wrong type of player and rarely fit. His main plus point seems to be that he’s on the market and getting in a guy for the sake of it is the worst reason to acquire anyone.
 

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Peterson for Soupy, who says no?
Peterson's contract is two years shorter, so Nope.

If the King's slip much more they have some interesting rental options.
Kopi
Arvidsson
Moore if not re-signing. Hopefully bring back
Lizotte
JAD
Roy
Walker
Edler
Quick
 
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If the Kings black hole this season, you have to look at trading both Kopitar and Doughty. Doughty is not a top 10 D anymore but he’s still a good all situations #1. He could strongly compliment a contender with an already established #1, like McDonagh to Tampa Bay a few years ago.

If we retain 50% on Kopitar he will draw some interest.

Recoup some assets, hope Byfield progresses?

This team is so poorly built.
 

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If the Kings black hole this season, you have to look at trading both Kopitar and Doughty. Doughty is not a top 10 D anymore but he’s still a good all situations #1. He could strongly compliment a contender with an already established #1, like McDonagh to Tampa Bay a few years ago.

If we retain 50% on Kopitar he will draw some interest.

Recoup some assets, hope Byfield progresses?

This team is so poorly built.
i just don't see it happening

best roster we've ever had, rebuild is over, identity promo videos with luc going on about how teams are prepared for us now.. they think the work is done

AEG would have to blow it from the top right? someone said last night they don't know if phil knows he owns a hockey team any more and i think that might be right
 

King'sPawn

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Wow... two trades happened today. But I remember some saying that trades don't happen this early in the season?
 

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i just don't see it happening

best roster we've ever had, rebuild is over, identity promo videos with luc going on about how teams are prepared for us now.. they think the work is done

AEG would have to blow it from the top right? someone said last night they don't know if phil knows he owns a hockey team any more and i think that might be right

They've been patting themselves on the back too much to admit any kind of "wait we actually need a minute"
 
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If the Kings black hole this season, you have to look at trading both Kopitar and Doughty. Doughty is not a top 10 D anymore but he’s still a good all situations #1. He could strongly compliment a contender with an already established #1, like McDonagh to Tampa Bay a few years ago.

If we retain 50% on Kopitar he will draw some interest.

Recoup some assets, hope Byfield progresses?

This team is so poorly built.
That won’t happen even if they team sinks to the bottom of the league..
The forward corps is above average skill wise but we need more size and toughness..

The real problem and this is where we’re poorly built is the defense!
Roy, Walker, Edler and Durzi have all been poor to average and the goaltending is bad.
At the quarter mark this team is still inconsistent and the most glaring needs haven’t been addressed..
Bjornfot, Spence and Clarke are ready and should be on the Kings, question is does Todd feel the same as he seems to think this team can be something we’re not seeing..

Bjornfot - Doughty
Gavrikov - Spence
Anderson - Clarke

Who the fudge am I kidding, this shit ain’t happening..
 

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#1 2023, Kempe, Fagemo, Bjornfot, Walker

Chychrun, Crouse

Crouse - Kopitar - Fiala
Arvidsson - Danault - Vilardi
Iafallo - Byfield - Moore
Grundstrom Lizotte - Kaliyev

Anderson - Doughty
Chychrun - Durzi
Roy - Clarke
My version of your offer:

#1 2024, Kupari, Fagemo, Durzi, JAD

Chychrun, Crouse
 

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That won’t happen even if they team sinks to the bottom of the league..
The forward corps is above average skill wise but we need more size and toughness..

The real problem and this is where we’re poorly built is the defense!
Roy, Walker, Edler and Durzi have all been poor to average and the goaltending is bad.
At the quarter mark this team is still inconsistent and the most glaring needs haven’t been addressed..
Bjornfot, Spence and Clarke are ready and should be on the Kings, question is does Todd feel the same as he seems to think this team can be something we’re not seeing..

Bjornfot - Doughty
Gavrikov - Spence
Anderson - Clarke

Who the fudge am I kidding, this shit ain’t happening..
I like that D a lot better than current 6. I want Bjornfot up ASAP
 
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If the Kings black hole this season, you have to look at trading both Kopitar and Doughty. Doughty is not a top 10 D anymore but he’s still a good all situations #1. He could strongly compliment a contender with an already established #1, like McDonagh to Tampa Bay a few years ago.

If we retain 50% on Kopitar he will draw some interest.

Recoup some assets, hope Byfield progresses?

This team is so poorly built.

How are Doughty today and McDonagh from 2018 remotely similar from a deal perspective? Doughty with 4 years left isn't going anywhere, and they're not going to retain much for that long.

Wow... two trades happened today. But I remember some saying that trades don't happen this early in the season?

Earth rattling trades too. Especially the one not even involving NHL players.
 

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Kerfoot and Simmonds for Durzi and Walker could sort things out for both teams. For the Kings, Kerfoot gives them a 3C who can clearly beat out Lizotte. And getting Simmonds back to LA has fan value while getting toughness. It’s a wash salary cap wise and but Durzi/Walker are not a free agents.
 
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Earth rattling trades too. Especially the one not even involving NHL players.
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