Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[Surf Nutz]

I see Lizotte as not being the right center for line 3, with Fiala and Vilardi.
I see Byfield there, in the future, but like that he's getting 15 mins and playing LW1 atm.

I think they are getting Byfield LW1 with 15 minutes to see him without him worrying about center defensive responsibilities and let him concentrate on producing. And once he does and has more confidence, then slot him 3C. One element that may be holding him back, as he;'s concentrating on defensive responsibilities foremost, when he's center.

I would also personally try Moore at 3C, as he played center at the Worlds and did well there. I would rather have him center Fiala and Gabe...than, Lizotte. Moore is the better player, period. Consider his second half of last year, leading the team in scoring, from Jan1. Put Lizotte back as 4C. If Moore is weak at faceoffs, Gabe can take draws.

Byfield Kopitar Kempe
Iafallo Danault Arvidsson
Fiala Moore Vilardi
Kaliyev Lizotte Kupari
Lemieux
JAD
Grundstrom

When Moore comes back I would put him with Kopitar and Vilardi. Keep current Danault line and have BYf center Fiala and Kempe and Lizzo 4c. I see Fiala-Byf- Kempe as future #1 line.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

I'm so glad Clarke is down in juniors piling-up points against a level of competition he's clearly beyond, I'm sure that's doing wonders for his development

 

[BigBrown]

I'm so glad Clarke is down in juniors piling-up points against a level of competition he's clearly beyond, I'm sure that's doing wonders for his development

I mean at some point playing games is better than not playing games, right? Not sure what other option there was.

 

[Maynard]

I'm so glad Clarke is down in juniors piling-up points against a level of competition he's clearly beyond, I'm sure that's doing wonders for his development

I’m sure playing against high school seniors is helping him round out his defensive game.

 

[johnjm22]

 

[Docgonzo]

I guess we can cross off Provorov then.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I mean at some point playing games is better than not playing games, right? Not sure what other option there was.

31 other organizations seem able to figure it out.

 

[Trash Panda]

I mean at some point playing games is better than not playing games, right? Not sure what other option there was.

Acknowledging the log jam at D that has been staring you in the face for over a year, and make the according moves to address the issue.

 

[Docgonzo]

31 other organizations seem able to figure it out.

Didn’t Winnipeg just send Lambert and Lucius back to the CHL after playing less games in the AHL than QB did on his conditioning stint?

 

[ricardfromage]

Sorry I haven't been around after posting that thing. I haven't heard anything else today but wanted to add that I doubt that if this rumor had real legs that the players/picks mentioned would be the only possible assets on the move. I didn't hear the rumor as a "we are dealing player X for player Y" sort of a thing. I was a little bit more fluid then that however I don't remember any other names mentioned. Maybe it was a one or the other or two picks for a player and a pick sort of thing. I know that the Isles have a bunch of interest in Moore and Bjornfot both so who knows.

The funny thing is that I hear allot of talk around the rink about other teams and players/prospects and typically there is a kernel of truth in it but I really don't hear much about the Kings so this one caught my attention for what it is worth. I doubt anything comes of it but thought I would share. Now the JAD is no longer on our team up here (among other Kings prospects) I don't hear much about us. Moore's the petty or something like that....

 

[Steve Zissou]

Sorry I haven't been around after posting that thing.

Woah man what a way to start a paragraph.

I was a little bit more fluid then.

I have no f***ing idea what this mean but I just know I gotta steal this shit. This is fire.

The funny thing is that I hear allot of talk around the rink about other teams and players/prospects

Word around the street is that Hockey Rinks and Taco Bell are out and the In-N-Out Burger (in North Hollywood near Radford) has the juicy gossip now. Those are good burgers, Ricardfromage.

 

[Docgonzo]

Don’t call me rich
Don’t call me George
Just call me cheez
That’s who I am!
Not Rich, not George, just cheez!

All that goes through my head when I see ricardfromage username.

 

[Statto]

Ugh that JMFJ Michigan highlight video was the worst thing we ever could’ve seen after getting JJ. He never did any of that at the nhl level.

Yeah… the whole nariatve that created had us all thinking we were about to have the best 1-2 punch on the blue-line in the league. In the end, not without irony, we had arguably the best blue line in the league but by then he was long gone.

I’m just glad he got the opportunity to recover financially to some degree after what happened.

 

[Statto]

I mean at some point playing games is better than not playing games, right? Not sure what other option there was.

I’d say that up until game 9 he’d clearly outplayed Walker and had he kept playing he’d be ahead of Walker now. To everyone saying that it’s ‘because it’s a play-off race’, I’d say that had they just backed Clarke properly since day 1 we’d probably be in a better spot for that race. It’s conjecture obviously but there were options but they backed themselves into a corner so the options ran out.

They have gotten a lot right, in fairness: E.G. Acquiring Fiala and I have to give TMac a lot of credit for putting QB a LW because so far that’s been a superb move, but I feel strongly they handled Clarke wrong. On balance, risking Walker being lost on waivers earlier in the year and maximising Clarke’s NHL exposure would have been far better asset management and long term strategy.

 

[Mats26]

31 other organizations seem able to figure it out.

...and Shane Wright is playing in Windsor right now. We need to work within the rules. They can't play in the AHL and their parent clubs need them to keep playing somewhere. Not much we can do without making in-season trades which also comes with a risk. We also have Spence and Tobi that need to play on the big club. These look like off season moves for now since the team is looking good for some post season games.

 

[YP44]

I mean at some point playing games is better than not playing games, right? Not sure what other option there was.

This, it's better than eating popcorn getting rusty.
The NHL and CHL need to re-evaluate their agreement allowing players like Wright and Clarke go to the AHL. Not sure what can be done here.
I think it would help the CHL as well, maybe not sell tickets but these players are taking ice time from another kid.

Yeah… the whole nariatve that created had us all thinking we were about to have the best 1-2 punch on the blue-line in the league. In the end, not without irony, we had arguably the best blue line in the league but by then he was long gone.

I’m just glad he got the opportunity to recover financially to some degree after what happened.

Maybe that video helped his value to Columbus though

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Shane Wright They can't play in the AHL and their parent clubs need them to keep playing somewhere

Because they're one of the deepest teams in the league at forward and are rolling out Beniers, Wennberg, Gourde, et. al. as centers and it's probably pointless to play him at wing when he's outgunned. He was also just drafted from juniors. This is strictly a juniors--maybe NHL, let's try AHL, okay back to juniors thing.

Contrasted with the Kings where Clarke was clearly outgunning every RHD but Doughty at the time and then didn't play for a month before the WJC. Clarke had also played in several different leagues including men in Europe. Again, 31 other orgs seem to find a way to NOT have a top prospect go OHL->Slovakia->OHL->NHL->AHL->OHL while shelfing him for a month at several moments in between and that's not counting international tournaments. Call me crazy but if you want a guy to develop maybe give him continuity instead of a couple of weeks at a time in different countries.

And yes, the keep playing somewhere is exactly the problem. Glad he's got some of the continuity now, but it's at the weakest level possible with no real opportunity to work on his actual weaknesses.

 

[Schrute farms]

Because they're one of the deepest teams in the league at forward and are rolling out Beniers, Wennberg, Gourde, et. al. as centers and it's probably pointless to play him at wing when he's outgunned. He was also just drafted from juniors. This is strictly a juniors--maybe NHL, let's try AHL, okay back to juniors thing.

To be fair, you could say the same thing about the Kings and RHDs. We have Spence not playing and he's clearly ready & able for the NHL. Further, Clarke does need to get stronger. But i understand your point -- and maybe even sitting on the bench in LA is the best place for S&C, development, etc.

 

[Mats26]

Because they're one of the deepest teams in the league at forward and are rolling out Beniers, Wennberg, Gourde, et. al. as centers and it's probably pointless to play him at wing when he's outgunned. He was also just drafted from juniors. This is strictly a juniors--maybe NHL, let's try AHL, okay back to juniors thing.

Contrasted with the Kings where Clarke was clearly outgunning every RHD but Doughty at the time and then didn't play for a month before the WJC. Clarke had also played in several different leagues including men in Europe. Again, 31 other orgs seem to find a way to NOT have a top prospect go OHL->Slovakia->OHL->NHL->AHL->OHL while shelfing him for a month at several moments in between and that's not counting international tournaments. Call me crazy but if you want a guy to develop maybe give him continuity instead of a couple of weeks at a time in different countries.

And yes, the keep playing somewhere is exactly the problem. Glad he's got some of the continuity now, but it's at the weakest level possible with no real opportunity to work on his actual weaknesses.

you missed the 2nd half of my comment:

"Not much we can do without making in-season trades which also comes with a risk. We also have Spence and Tobi that need to play on the big club. These look like off season moves for now since the team is looking good for some post season games."

We are deep at D as well. No point having him sit watching NHL games. Walker should of been traded in the offseason and wasn't so I guess the plan was to always send Clarke back to Barrie.

And Clarke weakness, he needs to bulk up. He can do that over in the OHL and over the summer before camp.

 

[BigBrown]

I’d say that up until game 9 he’d clearly outplayed Walker and had he kept playing he’d be ahead of Walker now. To everyone saying that it’s ‘because it’s a play-off race’, I’d say that had they just backed Clarke properly since day 1 we’d probably be in a better spot for that race. It’s conjecture obviously but there were options but they backed themselves into a corner so the options ran out.

I mean that's fair, I respect that opinion while I don't necessarily agree with it. Walker started the season horribly but is miles better now, in my opinion. Clarke didn't look like the most competent and reliable d-man at the WJC, for what it's worth. It's anyone's guess if Clarke playing regularly this season would have fixed that.

The way they managed his season certainly isn't above criticism but my point is that at this point I'd rather him play some actual games at this point and I disagree with any assessment that there is nothing for him to learn at that level. He's had half a season to practice, let him try to put some of that work into games.

 

[Statto]

I mean that's fair, I respect that opinion while I don't necessarily agree with it. Walker started the season horribly but is miles better now, in my opinion. Clarke didn't look like the most competent and reliable d-man at the WJC, for what it's worth. It's anyone's guess if Clarke playing regularly this season would have fixed that.

The way they managed his season certainly isn't above criticism but my point is that at this point I'd rather him play some actual games at this point and I disagree with any assessment that there is nothing for him to learn at that level. He's had half a season to practice, let him try to put some of that work into games.

I think given the situation at the end of the WJC then he had to go back to the OHL, yes.

 

[deaderhead28]

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[Kurrilino]

Because they're one of the deepest teams in the league at forward and are rolling out Beniers, Wennberg, Gourde, et. al. as centers and it's probably pointless to play him at wing when he's outgunned. He was also just drafted from juniors. This is strictly a juniors--maybe NHL, let's try AHL, okay back to juniors thing.

Contrasted with the Kings where Clarke was clearly outgunning every RHD but Doughty at the time and then didn't play for a month before the WJC. Clarke had also played in several different leagues including men in Europe. Again, 31 other orgs seem to find a way to NOT have a top prospect go OHL->Slovakia->OHL->NHL->AHL->OHL while shelfing him for a month at several moments in between and that's not counting international tournaments. Call me crazy but if you want a guy to develop maybe give him continuity instead of a couple of weeks at a time in different countries.

And yes, the keep playing somewhere is exactly the problem. Glad he's got some of the continuity now, but it's at the weakest level possible with no real opportunity to work on his actual weaknesses.

When do you work on you weakness if not against possible worst competition?

 

[Lt Dan]

Not doubting that discussions are always taking place I just don't think that is adequate value for both those players. Would that be a free space up move to bring in a LHD?

I mean its a bad look with Moore too. Guess Visnovsky was dealt after a new contract right?

I absolutely don't believe that rumor. Value is too low for both

Vis was dealt after signing a new contract , but the team was changing directions the rebuild was starting and in the end of the day Stoll and Green for Lubo was a steal
The rumor you replied too is shit value and the team in still building an trying to compete, so I can shenanigans from dickcheese

 

[LAKings88]

I absolutely don't believe that rumor. Value is too low for both

Vis was dealt after signing a new contract , but the team was changing directions the rebuild was starting and in the end of the day Stoll and Green for Lubo was a steal
The rumor you replied too is shit value and the team in still building an trying to compete, so I can shenanigans from dickcheese

I don’t either. I respect the poster tho. I think it is fragments of conversation heard. At most I think the NYI could have interest in those players.