Probably need 1 more, with Edler gone we will have 2 and that's with Toby.Bjornfot?
Probably need 1 more, with Edler gone we will have 2 and that's with Toby.Bjornfot?
Extending Moore and then immediately shipping him out to Long Island would damage Blake’s future attempts at trying to extend guys. But it’s plausible from a cupboard replenishing/middle 6 logjam perspective. Especially if it’s accompanied by a mid to long term LHD acquisition.I heard a rumor today that should be taken as a rumor. Working for a WHL team I hear tons of rumors but this one made me think for a bit. I made a few phone calls and the offering team (mid lvl mgr) said he had been hearing the same thing so there must have at least been a discussion of some sort about it. Like to hear it here it goes....
Moore and Bjornfot going to the Isles for a 2nd and a 3rd in the coming draft along with a 4rth next year or something like that). My understanding is that we wanted a 1st in the coming draft but that was more conjecture than anything else on my contacts part. I sent an email to a hack I know and he said that he is working on something with the Kings but that is all he would say. The hack works for the hockey news if it matters.
So there ya go. Another useless rumor from a spin merchant like myself for you to get angry and disappointed about me on. Meh and of course get off of my lawn etc.....
I feel like that would hurt more than it helps.Moore and Bjornfot going to the Isles for a 2nd and a 3rd in the coming draft along with a 4rth next year or something like that). My understanding is that we wanted a 1st in the coming draft but that was more conjecture than anything else on my contacts part. I sent an email to a hack I know and he said that he is working on something with the Kings but that is all he would say. The hack works for the hockey news if it matters.
I do think Durzi is a tad better offensively. If you look at their points as a whole not only does he have a higher ppg, but his points/60 is substantially higher. Chychrun is an impressive 1.29. Durzi is a 1.44, which is obviously really high. I think Chychrun's shot is one of the best in the league, but I think Durzi's overall offensive acumen and IQ are higher. This isn't to say that Chychrun isn't effective, he's really good. Durzi also hasn't had the benefit of being in the NHL as long. Note that I don't think that Durzi is just as good as Chychrun, just offensively. His defense still is on the suck spectrum.
I never said that is the only reason. Will you address what I said?
he's a great player, but also one who is being given soft deployment in a limited sample size on a team with no expectations but with him on the trade market. You made it sound like he plays big minutes, but every time he does, he gets hurt. And when he plays harder minutes, his metrics drop.
Yes, non contending teams with players to trade also do it. See also: Erik Karlsson. Colin Miller in the past (had something like 85% ozone starts in vegas).
it's fair to have doubts about his health status and 'true' abilities when--as shown multiple times above--his non-counting stats get obliterated when he plays harder minutes across his career. I don't understand what you're disputing, frankly, as I haven't said anything that anyone but Yotes fans would deem totally controversial and it's opinion rooted in facts that have been posted ad nauseum since last season. I'm not trying to be flippant here but I don't feel like I need to post more of those, there's ample evidence. Are you suggesting he's a true #1 dman worth the trade value? If so, YOU need to show your work.
Personally, I don't think he's worth his reputation or alleged trade value, and our internal options in Clarke and Durzi are better value as well as arguably better fits for our team. I'm not a fan of slinging multiple blue chip assets just to turn good Durzi into a left-hander whose rep exceeds his value.
Lomabrdi and every GM say the right course is to stay away from deadline as costs are high, but then they turn around and are active anyway. (Sekera)
If the right deal is out there I really hope Blake pulls the trigger.
Are these numbers based on career, or this season? Durzi has played just over 100 games. JC, 3 times that at 364.Can you help me understand where you are getting your numbers? Chychrun has an all strengths P/60 of 2.14 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.58. Durzi has an all strengths P/60 of 1.66 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.18. I am using natural stat trick, so maybe it's the wrong source. As for PPG, Chychrun has a PPG of .81 and Durzi has a .56.
I feel like that would hurt more than it helps.
Moving a LD out is kind of against what should be done, unless one is coming back. The only one that should come back would be Pelech, who has a NTC.
They do have the rights to a big LHD, and a big LW power forward type who are both playing in Finland (yes, I am fitting this into the narrative that Stoll is going to do more than "check on our prospects" on his trip to Finland)
A 2nd and a 3rd provides no value either. On that alone it’d be a bad move because you’d probably get more than that for Moore alone at the deadline.Unless Moore isn’t dealing with an injury but something else and wants off the team, I don’t see why we would trade him so quickly after signing him long term, never mind adding Bjornfot into the mix, for picks.
I was at the same Taco Bell where that rumor came from, and they also said that with any luck we should have both Allison & Deadmarsh back healthy before the playoffs.
Correct, they could have not extended him and gotten close to what Hagel got from the TBLA 2nd and a 3rd provides no value either. On that alone it’d be a bad move because you’d probably get more than that for Moore alone at the deadline.
Yea its a pretty outlandish rumor. The only thing I can think of is something happened off ice that is irreparable with Moore.Forget the fact that Moore was just signed. Why would Blake trade both of those players for only a second and a third?
We needed a top 4, and I thought we were going to re-sign him..turned out worse that Lucic IMOGod i hope he doesn't pull a Sekera move. Every scout inteviewed since Lombardi left said this never should've been done.
I think its just career vs season. I usually use NST as well, fantastic site.Can you help me understand where you are getting your numbers? Chychrun has an all strengths P/60 of 2.14 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.58. Durzi has an all strengths P/60 of 1.66 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.18. I am using natural stat trick, so maybe it's the wrong source. As for PPG, Chychrun has a PPG of .81 and Durzi has a .56.