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I think its more likely to see a stopgap for the rest of the year brought in somewhat cheaply at the TDL.
When Quick, Edler and Pepe come off the books at the end of the year that's $8M off the cap.
The 4M cap hit Cal gives us from Ontario is really strapping down ability to move right now.
 
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I heard a rumor today that should be taken as a rumor. Working for a WHL team I hear tons of rumors but this one made me think for a bit. I made a few phone calls and the offering team (mid lvl mgr) said he had been hearing the same thing so there must have at least been a discussion of some sort about it. Like to hear it here it goes....

Moore and Bjornfot going to the Isles for a 2nd and a 3rd in the coming draft along with a 4rth next year or something like that). My understanding is that we wanted a 1st in the coming draft but that was more conjecture than anything else on my contacts part. I sent an email to a hack I know and he said that he is working on something with the Kings but that is all he would say. The hack works for the hockey news if it matters.

So there ya go. Another useless rumor from a spin merchant like myself for you to get angry and disappointed about me on. Meh and of course get off of my lawn etc.....
 
I heard a rumor today that should be taken as a rumor. Working for a WHL team I hear tons of rumors but this one made me think for a bit. I made a few phone calls and the offering team (mid lvl mgr) said he had been hearing the same thing so there must have at least been a discussion of some sort about it. Like to hear it here it goes....

Moore and Bjornfot going to the Isles for a 2nd and a 3rd in the coming draft along with a 4rth next year or something like that). My understanding is that we wanted a 1st in the coming draft but that was more conjecture than anything else on my contacts part. I sent an email to a hack I know and he said that he is working on something with the Kings but that is all he would say. The hack works for the hockey news if it matters.

So there ya go. Another useless rumor from a spin merchant like myself for you to get angry and disappointed about me on. Meh and of course get off of my lawn etc.....
Extending Moore and then immediately shipping him out to Long Island would damage Blake’s future attempts at trying to extend guys. But it’s plausible from a cupboard replenishing/middle 6 logjam perspective. Especially if it’s accompanied by a mid to long term LHD acquisition.
 
Moore and Bjornfot going to the Isles for a 2nd and a 3rd in the coming draft along with a 4rth next year or something like that). My understanding is that we wanted a 1st in the coming draft but that was more conjecture than anything else on my contacts part. I sent an email to a hack I know and he said that he is working on something with the Kings but that is all he would say. The hack works for the hockey news if it matters.
I feel like that would hurt more than it helps.

Moving a LD out is kind of against what should be done, unless one is coming back. The only one that should come back would be Pelech, who has a NTC.

They do have the rights to a big LHD, and a big LW power forward type who are both playing in Finland (yes, I am fitting this into the narrative that Stoll is going to do more than "check on our prospects" on his trip to Finland)
 
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I do think Durzi is a tad better offensively. If you look at their points as a whole not only does he have a higher ppg, but his points/60 is substantially higher. Chychrun is an impressive 1.29. Durzi is a 1.44, which is obviously really high. I think Chychrun's shot is one of the best in the league, but I think Durzi's overall offensive acumen and IQ are higher. This isn't to say that Chychrun isn't effective, he's really good. Durzi also hasn't had the benefit of being in the NHL as long. Note that I don't think that Durzi is just as good as Chychrun, just offensively. His defense still is on the suck spectrum.

Can you help me understand where you are getting your numbers? Chychrun has an all strengths P/60 of 2.14 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.58. Durzi has an all strengths P/60 of 1.66 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.18. I am using natural stat trick, so maybe it's the wrong source. As for PPG, Chychrun has a PPG of .81 and Durzi has a .56.
 
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I never said that is the only reason. Will you address what I said?

he's a great player, but also one who is being given soft deployment in a limited sample size on a team with no expectations but with him on the trade market. You made it sound like he plays big minutes, but every time he does, he gets hurt. And when he plays harder minutes, his metrics drop.

Yes, non contending teams with players to trade also do it. See also: Erik Karlsson. Colin Miller in the past (had something like 85% ozone starts in vegas).

it's fair to have doubts about his health status and 'true' abilities when--as shown multiple times above--his non-counting stats get obliterated when he plays harder minutes across his career. I don't understand what you're disputing, frankly, as I haven't said anything that anyone but Yotes fans would deem totally controversial and it's opinion rooted in facts that have been posted ad nauseum since last season. I'm not trying to be flippant here but I don't feel like I need to post more of those, there's ample evidence. Are you suggesting he's a true #1 dman worth the trade value? If so, YOU need to show your work.

Personally, I don't think he's worth his reputation or alleged trade value, and our internal options in Clarke and Durzi are better value as well as arguably better fits for our team. I'm not a fan of slinging multiple blue chip assets just to turn good Durzi into a left-hander whose rep exceeds his value.

I mentioned that it is fair to have doubts about inquiry issues and I have mentioned that it is fair to question the acquisition cost. The entire point of my comment was that he is a far better player than Durzi and I don't think any team can just easily "juice" a player into his numbers. He is 5th in goals from the blue line since 2019-20, he has stellar P/60 rates and is dominating possession. However, you seem like you are in an antagonistic mood and have your mind made up, so I will let our conversation go.
 
Lomabrdi and every GM say the right course is to stay away from deadline as costs are high, but then they turn around and are active anyway. (Sekera)
If the right deal is out there I really hope Blake pulls the trigger.

God i hope he doesn't pull a Sekera move. Every scout inteviewed since Lombardi left said this never should've been done.
 
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Can you help me understand where you are getting your numbers? Chychrun has an all strengths P/60 of 2.14 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.58. Durzi has an all strengths P/60 of 1.66 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.18. I am using natural stat trick, so maybe it's the wrong source. As for PPG, Chychrun has a PPG of .81 and Durzi has a .56.
Are these numbers based on career, or this season? Durzi has played just over 100 games. JC, 3 times that at 364.
 
I feel like that would hurt more than it helps.

Moving a LD out is kind of against what should be done, unless one is coming back. The only one that should come back would be Pelech, who has a NTC.

They do have the rights to a big LHD, and a big LW power forward type who are both playing in Finland (yes, I am fitting this into the narrative that Stoll is going to do more than "check on our prospects" on his trip to Finland)

Makes little sense to deal Moore atm, unless another NHL player is coming back. Pelech (5.7 cap hit) would be great, (but the NMC and them fighting for playoffs makes little sense, anyway) but they also have LHD Alexander Romanov, (2.5 cap hit) formerly of MTL.

Fins in their system; both of these are interesting prospects.


Eetu Liukas 6'2" 200 LW 20 yrs old. 5th rd 2021
17 pts in HPK and 67 PIM! Must be among liiga leaders. 3rd in pts on his team at age 20. Projects to 26 pts and 101 PIM. +5 is 2nd on team.
"""He plays a physical north-south game, and takes to his role with a great deal of enthusiasm. He’s never seen an opportunity to play the body that was too good to pass up. He’s got a pretty heavy shot, too; his one-timer, in particular, does serious damage.'""


Matias Rajaniemi LHD 6'4" 225 D 20 yrs old. 6th rd 2020

"""One of the youngest players eligible for the 2020 draft, Rajaniemi has seen a big increase in his ice time this season and has been trusted to quarterback the top power play unit. Rajaniemi makes simple passes and can utilize a heavy shot from time to time. Rajaniemi did fine shutting down offence coming his way. He's a tough customer along the boards with his 6-foot-4 frame."""
2 teams this yr in Liiga 28 gms 6 assists. His 3rd season in Liiga at 20 yrs old.


The Islanders have 50 points and fighting to make the playoffs. I cannot imagine the Kings dealing Moore and Bjornfot for just picks. I suppose Byfield's level of play, he's here to stay, whether it be LW1, LW2? or C3
and with Arty coming back in a week or so? They could move a forward, in a deal that makes sense.
Kupari has gained trust and should stick for good, as well. Hard to say if JAD has a spot and how Lemieux and
Grundstrom work in and where will Arty fit in?

I suppose they may want a #1 (good luck) or #2 pick; especially if the Kings own #1 is in play for a deal and they want to get a #2 if they deal their #1.

Q: If Trevor Moore goes to the Isle, when he scores a goal, will they say "Trevor Moore, of Thousand Oaks, scores!"
 
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I don’t see Blake trading Moore right after extending him, it’d have to be Iaffalo more. Hard to see Blake getting a lot from Lou since Lou is such a hardass. But I can see Blake trying to get another 1st so he can keep his and flip the other 1st for roster help.

Also just remember, the Kings are a high offense team right now. But to make moves they need to move out cap, which mean a forward or 2, which will hurt their overall depth.

And there isn’t any way possible the Kings are getting Pelech while the Isles are in a playoff hunt.
 
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Unless Moore isn’t dealing with an injury but something else and wants off the team, I don’t see why we would trade him so quickly after signing him long term, never mind adding Bjornfot into the mix, for picks.
 
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Unless Moore isn’t dealing with an injury but something else and wants off the team, I don’t see why we would trade him so quickly after signing him long term, never mind adding Bjornfot into the mix, for picks.
A 2nd and a 3rd provides no value either. On that alone it’d be a bad move because you’d probably get more than that for Moore alone at the deadline.
 
A 2nd and a 3rd provides no value either. On that alone it’d be a bad move because you’d probably get more than that for Moore alone at the deadline.
Correct, they could have not extended him and gotten close to what Hagel got from the TBL
 
Forget the fact that Moore was just signed. Why would Blake trade both of those players for only a second and a third?
Yea its a pretty outlandish rumor. The only thing I can think of is something happened off ice that is irreparable with Moore.
He was playing well, signed his deal, then the holiday break happened and he never came back. There was no particular play I can recall where he got injured.
But I think its a bad deal for the Kings and would be really surprised if it happened.
 
An under the radar target could be Jake Walman in Detroit. He's a 6'2" LHD who came up in the Blues system but was blocked by their depth (Vince Dunn 2.0). He's ascended to their top pairing and is playing excellently on both sides of the puck. He's 26, and a UFA after this season. Yzerman isn't a dummy, but he knows he still needs to acquire picks and prospects which we have. I'd prefer him over anyone not named Chychrun.

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As for Chychrun, I wonder if the Kings could look at the Hagel trade as a model. We could send them two 1st round picks, but they'd need to send us back their 2nd round pick in one of those years along with Chychrun. In a sense, we'd be moving back but still getting a solid prospect to keep the cupboards full rather than just losing a pick entirely.
 
Can you help me understand where you are getting your numbers? Chychrun has an all strengths P/60 of 2.14 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.58. Durzi has an all strengths P/60 of 1.66 and a 5v5 P/60 of 1.18. I am using natural stat trick, so maybe it's the wrong source. As for PPG, Chychrun has a PPG of .81 and Durzi has a .56.
I think its just career vs season. I usually use NST as well, fantastic site.
 
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