Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[Surf Nutz]

I agree Iafallo has been very valuable, however if he is the piece the other team is asking for that brings in a top LHD you have to consider it.
We cannot keep all our forwards and hope to have spots for prospects to fill.

Indeed but the deadline for having spots to fill is October 2023.
Guys have been saying stuff like this for years and are now traumatized from how Blake consistently operates.
Blake likes to play poker with extra cards in his hand until he is forced to make a move.
And not going all in until he has an almost slam dunk winning hand aside from occasional small bets.
See Fiala, Danault and Stecher, the bulk of his most recent moves.

 

[YP44]

Indeed but the deadline for having spots to fill is October 2023.
Guys have been saying stuff like this for years and are now traumatized from how Blake consistently operates.
Blake likes to play poker with extra cards in his hand until he is forced to make a move.
And not going all in until he has an almost slam dunk winning hand aside from occasional small bets.
See Fiala, Danault and Stecher, the bulk of his most recent moves.

Oh I agree, depending on price I am ok if LA does nothing this trade deadline, but also there seem to be a lto of players that make sense to make a move on.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Oh I agree, depending on price I am ok if LA does nothing this trade deadline, but also there seem to be a lto of players that make sense to make a move on.

Not when you factor in the reality of how Rob Blake operates, only to the frustrated posters attempting to argue for players and how they see them.
A Stecher type move or slightly greater is probably all we will see, before the trade deadline.
Remember Lombardi was anti-trade deadline moves and that was his mentor.

 

[YP44]

Not when you factor in the reality of how Rob Blake operates, only to the frustrated posters attempting to argue for players and how they see them.
A Stecher type move or slightly greater is probably all we will see, before the trade deadline.
Remember Lombardi was anti-trade deadline moves and that was his mentor.

Lomabrdi and every GM say the right course is to stay away from deadline as costs are high, but then they turn around and are active anyway. (Sekera)
If the right deal is out there I really hope Blake pulls the trigger.

 

[kings11]

Oh I agree, depending on price I am ok if LA does nothing this trade deadline, but also there seem to be a lto of players that make sense to make a move on.

There are but what we really need is a G. Until they know what they have in Copley, this team can’t make a move. I do think we’ll be active at the TDL though

 

[AbsentMojo]

It is, and he's done that his whole career, even in Buffalo.

He's a few years older than Chychrun, but I think he fills a need. His contract is around the same cost and if he's not retained it's not a huge thing, he'll be 32 or so. Probably could get him for a first in '24 or a decent prospect and a 2nd.

I think Chicago is one of the more possible trading partners being in sell mode and showing they are willing to move quality players if it fits their strategy (eg. Hegel).. this is not a bad idea.

 

[YP44]

There are but what we really need is a G. Until they know what they have in Copley, this team can’t make a move. I do think we’ll be active at the TDL though

What if one of the players was/is Vejmelka?

 

[Surf Nutz]

Lomabrdi and every GM say the right course is to stay away from deadline as costs are high, but then they turn around and are active anyway. (Sekera)
If the right deal is out there I really hope Blake pulls the trigger.

You make big deals when you think you are in the thick of being a cup contender.
Because as we saw from Lombardi, when you fall short, it decimates your future, present build as well as your attractiveness to free agents.
Does anyone think the Kings and there present goaltenders, LHD's, toughness and size are a cup contender?
Or anyone else coming out of the Pacific Division for that matter?

 

[YP44]

You make big deals when you think you are in the thick of being a cup contender.
Because as we saw from Lombardi, when you fall short, it decimates your future, present build as well as your attractiveness to free agents.
Does anyone think the Kings and there present goaltenders, LHD's, toughness and size are a cup contender?
Or anyone else coming out of the Pacific Division for that matter?

No, but the players I am interested would not be rentals

 

[Noonan61]

It is, and he's done that his whole career, even in Buffalo.

He's a few years older than Chychrun, but I think he fills a need. His contract is around the same cost and if he's not retained it's not a huge thing, he'll be 32 or so. Probably could get him for a first in '24 or a decent prospect and a 2nd.

Do you have any analyitics on McCabe? Would be interested how he fairs.

 

[johnjm22]

It is, and he's done that his whole career, even in Buffalo.

He's a few years older than Chychrun, but I think he fills a need. His contract is around the same cost and if he's not retained it's not a huge thing, he'll be 32 or so. Probably could get him for a first in '24 or a decent prospect and a 2nd.

One thing I like about both players, is that they've been stuck on crappy awful teams for most of their careers.

Usually when guys like that finally get out of terrible situations, they feel rejuvenated and play some of the best hockey of their careers.

 

[johnjm22]

Blackhawks veteran Jake McCabe tired of playing on losing teams: 'Frankly, it sucks'

Jake McCabe is enjoying a productive season in Chicago, but his personal stats don't mean much to him at this point.

www.yahoo.com

“I don’t really give a s— about my personal stats, to be honest with you,” he said in an interview with The Athletic's Mark Lazerus. “It’s all about the team and all about winning. I’ve lost a lot in this league, and it’s getting pretty old. So I wouldn’t say that I’m by any means satisfied if I’m playing good or not. It depends on how we’re doing as a team.”

Some nice quotes in that article. He sounds angry.

He hasn't played an meaningful game in almost a decade.

You think he wouldn't be stoked and energized to play for a good team? I bet you he'll play great after being traded.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Iv'e started to come around a bit on McCabe but he just doesn't strike as a 'solution' to anything, he feels like just a move to say we addressed the LHD. He's just another average sized guy who can do everything at a decent level, like Walker or Roy-lite, just on the left.

If he can be had for cheap sure there's worse things than Anderson-Doughty / McCabe - Durzi / Edler - Roy / Walker but it's just a patch for this year. Blake has much bigger, longer-term concerns at LHD and G to think about but that does buy us some time more than shifting Durzi to LD does.

 

[johnjm22]

Iv'e started to come around a bit on McCabe but he just doesn't strike as a 'solution' to anything, he feels like just a move to say we addressed the LHD. He's just another average sized guy who can do everything at a decent level, like Walker or Roy-lite, just on the left.

If he can be had for cheap sure there's worse things than Anderson-Doughty / McCabe - Durzi / Edler - Roy / Walker but it's just a patch for this year. Blake has much bigger, longer-term concerns at LHD and G to think about but that does buy us some time more than shifting Durzi to LD does.

He's signed for two more years.

Edler is going to be gone, so we're going to be even more thin on LHD if we don't acquire someone.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Iv'e started to come around a bit on McCabe but he just doesn't strike as a 'solution' to anything, he feels like just a move to say we addressed the LHD. He's just another average sized guy who can do everything at a decent level, like Walker or Roy-lite, just on the left.

If he can be had for cheap sure there's worse things than Anderson-Doughty / McCabe - Durzi / Edler - Roy / Walker but it's just a patch for this year. Blake has much bigger, longer-term concerns at LHD and G to think about but that does buy us some time more than shifting Durzi to LD does.

McCabe does bring a leadership element, he wore the A in Buffalo a couple of seasons and is known as never take a shift off player. At 4m for 2 more seasons after this.. its a bit of a commitment though. I do think those intangibles up his value for the Kings specifically since the team is pretty soft. He will be very fired up to play on a contender after 10 yrs of shit. I think the ask for him would be significantly less than Chychrun.. so there's that.

 

[kings11]

What if one of the players was/is Vejmelka?

So you want to give up the equivalent of 3-5 first rounders??

What the Kings need is a shutdown LHD not more scoring. Vejmelka alone would be nice or Saros plus Portillo.. that’s where Blake’s focus should be, the future not a 2nd pairing Dman whose being priced like a #1D

 

[YP44]

So you want to give up the equivalent of 3-5 first rounders??

What the Kings need is a shutdown LHD not more scoring. Vejmelka alone would be nice or Saros plus Portillo.. that’s where Blake’s focus should be, the future not a 2nd pairing Dman whose being priced like a #1D

Where did I say I would want to give up 3-5 first rounders?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Id' also smell some 4-d chess there by helping chicago with their tank and keeping bedard the f*** out of the pacific haha

 

[YP44]

Id' also smell some 4-d chess there by helping chicago with their tank and keeping bedard the f*** out of the pacific haha

Not sure what is worse, having Bedard in the Pacific or in Chicago. Anaheim and Chicago are the two teams are really hope do not get him.

Fingers crossed for Columbus!!

 

[kings11]

Where did I say I would want to give up 3-5 first rounders?

Are you not trying to get Chychrun and Vejmelka as a package?

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Do you have any analyitics on McCabe? Would be interested how he fairs.

 

[Fishhead]

Solid target.
There are enough targets I would be ok with, that the only way I will be disappointed is if LA comes away with no upgrade to the their left hand side. Even then, probably am fine addressing in summer if costs are crazy.

For sure. The Kings would never do it, but they could afford to get both McCabe and Chychrun and run them as a 2nd pair. McCabe is solid on either side.

Anderson-Doughty
Chychrun-McCabe
Edler-Durzi

That is a top D unit, with the offense this team has they matchup with anyone. Need takers for Roy and Walker though. Probably not that difficult, but it's a very un-kings like move. Bjornfot and Spence move in next year, depending on what Durzi wants.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Maybe Blake will want to strike early, like how he dealt Muzzin late January. ..but was a seller and not a buyer.
I'm not liking the LHD options out there, of Chychrun, Provorov, Gravrikov. Cost wise and fit wise. McCabe would seem a safer option. Just being plus 4 on a -60 team says a lot. In his prime and on a decent contract.

Need stability and dependabiltiy on the backend. Edler is just too slow and think will become more of a detriment,,,,,consider when he signed, it was like he was not expected to play 82 games. His incentives were
how many games played, I think. The Kings have the offense, to go up against any team (an emerging top 10 PP helps) and it may come down to defense and goaltending to win. I think McCabe would be a good option.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'm convinced. I'd certainly be a lot more in on McCabe at his likely price than the other options. But its' still a time-biding option for only a few years--gonna have to find a long-term LHD eventually just as we would a goalie.

 

[Rick Knickleback]

But its' still a time-biding option for only a few years--gonna have to find a long-term LHD eventually

Bjornfot?