Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season Part 2

[Trash Panda]

I love how TM’s response to Bjornfot’s game against Edmonton was that he wasn’t a liability. Almost a backhanded compliment. Durzi, meanwhile, is a liability every time he steps on the ice.

It was a major douchebag comment for sure.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yup, seeing how management/coaching responds to adversity reminds me of how little faith I have in the folks in charge right now, the players on the ice have covered up quite a few mistakes but it's pretty clear that getting punched in the mouth completely melts them.

 

[johnjm22]

Roy is awesome. It sure as shit ain't his fault.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Lol. Poor Todd. He’s had no choice but to keep Durzi in the line up. He’s got no choice but to let
Vilardi and Byfield sit on the bench in OT.

#FreeTheKoala

Do I agree with everything Todd does? Absolutely not. But he must be doing something right by getting the team to where they’re at this season.
Stranger things have happened, but I doubt Blake is going to fire The Koala.

 

[Schrute farms]

Do I agree with everything Todd does? Absolutely not. But he must be doing something right by getting the team to where they’re at this season.

Is he? Or is he holding them back from being more successful?

There is a ton of talent on this team. Look what they have added since the crappy years 2-5 years ago -- Fiala, Arvi, Vilardi, PD, Moore, Anderson, etc. Not to mention breakouts like Kempe; and this years goalie adds with Gavi. Plus all the extra young guy depth (AK, Durzi, Spence, QB, etc.). Maybe, just maybe, there is a ton of talent on this team and TM is preventing them from greater success/heights.

 

[Johnny Utah]

This year exposed the Kings weaknesses - size, nastiness, and depth on D (LH).

It’s going to be really bad if both Gavrikov and Edler walk. Then Kings lose two LHD and even though they aren’t Regehr and Mitchell, they are big and physical.

 

[Trash Panda]

This year exposed the Kings weaknesses - size, nastiness, and depth on D (LH).

It’s going to be really bad if both Gavrikov and Edler walk. Then Kings lose two LHD and even though they aren’t Regehr and Mitchell, they are big and physical.

Edler walking would be a small glimmer of hope for an otherwise bleak looking off season.

 

[Herby]

This year exposed the Kings weaknesses - size, nastiness, and depth on D (LH).

It’s going to be really bad if both Gavrikov and Edler walk. Then Kings lose two LHD and even though they aren’t Regehr and Mitchell, they are big and physical.

Edler is terrible. There is no negative whatsoever to him leaving.

 

[johnjm22]

The trade deadline is already a fail.


Potential scenarios:
1)You re-sign Gavrikov & Korpisalo and you lose other roster players like Iafallo and Arvidsson. This cancels out much of the roster improvement that was gained by acquiring Gav/Korp in the first place.

2) If you don't re-sign Gavrikov. You wasted a 1st round pick, and we're back to where we started with the almost same roster problems.

3) You give up expensive assets to get someone to take on Cal. That means you massively overpaid to get/retain Gavrikov & Korpisalo.


Blake traded for a guy who made it clear he wanted to test the market. It's a braindead move. So even if you do re-sign Gavrikov, it will likely be a highly risky overpay.

Then Blake gave up a draft pick for MacEwen. This move actively makes the team worse.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Is he? Or is he holding them back from being more successful?

There is a ton of talent on this team. Look what they have added since the crappy years 2-5 years ago -- Fiala, Arvi, Vilardi, PD, Moore, Anderson, etc. Not to mention breakouts like Kempe; and this years goalie adds with Gavi. Plus all the extra young guy depth (AK, Durzi, Spence, QB, etc.). Maybe, just maybe, there is a ton of talent on this team and TM is preventing them from greater success/heights.

There is mountains of evidence from his past stops that this is the case unfortunately.

Good enough to get you there, not good enough to get over the hump, history of great but underperforming teams that excel often immediately upon his departure.

Excellent at Xs and Os before games, might as well leave a mannequin on the bench IN game.

 

[Telos]

The trade deadline is already a fail.


Potential scenarios:
1)You re-sign Gavrikov & Korpisalo and you lose other roster players like Iafallo and Arvidsson. This cancels out much of the roster improvement that was gained by acquiring Gav/Korp in the first place.

2) If you don't re-sign Gavrikov. You wasted a 1st round pick, and we're back to where we started with the almost same roster problems.

3) You give up expensive assets to get someone to take on Cal. That means you massively overpaid to get/retain Gavrikov & Korpisalo.


Blake traded for a guy who made it clear he wanted to test the market. It's a braindead move. So even if you do re-sign Gavrikov, it will likely be a highly risky overpay.

Then Blake gave up a draft pick for MacEwen. This move actively makes the team worse.

I agree with everything except that it is already a failure. It is already going to be one of the most talked about deadlines in Kings history whether lauded or infamous due to Quick being involved and being parted with the way that he was, but it would be known as one of the greatest of all time if the Kings somehow win.

Sure, it could be complete luck at that point, but nothing is set in stone till it happens, that's why they play the games. I will be right there with you almost as soon as the Kings are eliminated unless it is some spectacular run right at the finish line, but I will still hold out from calling it a failure until the results are in the books.

One thing is for sure though. I don't really think there is a middle ground on this. It will either go down as one of the best or one of the worst.

 

[johnjm22]

I agree with everything except that it is already a failure. It is already going to be one of the most talked about deadlines in Kings history whether lauded or infamous due to Quick being involved and being parted with the way that he was, but it would be known as one of the greatest of all time if the Kings somehow win.

Sure, it could be complete luck at that point, but nothing is set in stone till it happens, that's why they play the games. I will be right there with you almost as soon as the Kings are eliminated unless it is some spectacular run right at the finish line, but I will still hold out from calling it a failure until the results are in the books.

One thing is for sure though. I don't really think there is a middle ground on this. It will either go down as one of the best or one of the worst.

I think you have to judge a GM on the process, not the outcome. (Which admittedly isn't always easy to do).

Blake could salvage this with a great offseason I suppose.

I've been supportive of Blake since he became GM. I don't have a problem with him making mistakes because every GM will make mistakes. But there is threshold; a point at which too many mistakes are made.

These recent moves have really soured me on Blake:
Gavrikov trade
Moore extension
MacEwen trade

I've moved from being "pro-Blake" to neutral / slightly negative on him.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I think you have to judge a GM on the process, not the outcome. (Which admittedly isn't always easy to do).

Blake could salvage this with a great offseason I suppose.

I've been supportive of Blake since he became GM. I don't have a problem with him making mistakes because every GM will make mistakes. But there is threshold; a point at which too many mistakes are made.

These recent moves have really soured me on Blake:
Gavrikov trade
Moore extension
MacEwen trade

I've moved from being "pro-Blake" to neutral / slightly negative on him.

I'm genuinely not sure I've seen a more disastrous "4th liner" trade than MacEwen, it's actually kind of impressive how terrible he's been for the team and yet how much Todd needs to have him in the lineup for nothing.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I think you have to judge a GM on the process, not the outcome. (Which admittedly isn't always easy to do).

Blake could salvage this with a great offseason I suppose.

I've been supportive of Blake since he became GM. I don't have a problem with him making mistakes because every GM will make mistakes. But there is threshold; a point at which too many mistakes are made.

These recent moves have really soured me on Blake:
Gavrikov trade
Moore extension
MacEwen trade

I've moved from being "pro-Blake" to neutral / slightly negative on him.

Gavirkov trade, I get, I might be on the otherside, but I get it...

Moore extension...sure, again same thing....

But the MacEwen trade? Really? Upset over a 5th rounder? That I don't understand, past 6 drafts not including 2022, 2-3 players total have done anyting worth mentioning......a 5th round draft pick has little to no value

 

[Maynard]

This year exposed the Kings weaknesses - size, nastiness, and depth on D (LH).

It’s going to be really bad if both Gavrikov and Edler walk. Then Kings lose two LHD and even though they aren’t Regehr and Mitchell, they are big and physical.

These weaknesses were exposed early LAST year. It’s been a big problem for two seasons. It’s kind of crazy that nothing has been done about it.

 

[Seattle King]

I have reached the point where I will not watch another Kings game while Todd is the head coach.
I'm done.
I have seen more than enough.
The guy does not have a clue, the deployment is so bad.
There is no hope for anything more than what they are now under this coach.
Give him 3 Gretzkys and he will play them in the bottom 6 because there is a veteran grinder who needs more minutes.
The Durzi-Roy pairing is an abomination and offense to the hockey gods, but Todd loves it.
Please please lose this guy he kills our entire franchise.

FIRE TODD MCLELLAN NOW

 

[chris kontos]

It was a major douchebag comment for sure.

Thats a thing that todd does consistently is disrespect players in the media. Hes done it everywhere hes been. Not only to players hate it, but overall its an indicator of a manager that cant handle people

 

[johnjm22]

But the MacEwen trade? Really? Upset over a 5th rounder? That I don't understand, past 6 drafts not including 2022, 2-3 players total have done anyting worth mentioning......a 5th round draft pick has little to no value

I know it seems like a small thing.

But nothing gets on my nerves more than when a GM gives up an asset to make the team worse.

And I think you might be underestimating how damaging the MacEwen trade has been. It essentially turns the Kings into a 3 line team.

JAD and Kupari were doing some very good things together. The acquisition of MacEwen has put an end to that.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I know it seems like a small thing.

But nothing gets on my nerves more than when a GM gives up an asset to make the team worse.

And I think you might be underestimating how damaging the MacEwen trade has been. It essentially turns the Kings into a 3 line team.

JAD and Kupari were doing some very good things together. The acquisition of MacEwen has put an end to that.

And we've alreadyseen where this leads, to Kopitarplaying 24 minutes a game vs. mcdavid, a series loss, and complaints from coach that his depth players weren't getting it done.

 

[chris kontos]

I know it seems like a small thing.

But nothing gets on my nerves more than when a GM gives up an asset to make the team worse.

And I think you might be underestimating how damaging the MacEwen trade has been. It essentially turns the Kings into a 3 line team.

JAD and Kupari were doing some very good things together. The acquisition of MacEwen has put an end to that.

Coaching issue.
For all we know lemieux could have been violating dogs on the beach

 

[Johnny Utah]

Kings really need a LHD who can drop them or step in if someone takes a liberty against the Kings....like a Seeler, Middleton, Edmundson, etc. That way there is always someone on the ice ready to help out. Next year UFA's include Tinordi, Borowiecki, Beaulieu.

I would make a pitch to sign Gavrikov and then sign one of the players above and pair them with one of the MANY Kings smaller RHD like Spence, Durzi, etc.

Also, don't qualify MacEwen - I was worried he will never be the same after the jaw injury and my suspicion was correct. He didn't even throw a punch against Hague. Embarrassing. He also did nothing against Edmonton or Calgary, two teams who have bullied the Kings. TM put him on the ice in the final two minutes against Edmonton. Lemieux or anyone else would have done something to send a message for the playoffs and Anderson hit.

I loved Lemieux - the issue is he was bad this year and oft injured. Now he is playing great under Torts. Maybe he's just a Eastern Conference guy. Also, the Kings are deep on LW - if they get a player like him again, he needs to play RW and shoot right, that is what they mentioned when they landed MacEwen. That leaves UFA's like Reaves, Hathaway, Watson (please no), Simmonds.

They can also look at the following LW's - Lucic, N. Ritchie, Bertuzzi (likely too much $$), Miles Wood and move someone over to RW.

 

[chris kontos]

You must like the taste of man flesh like lemieux
LMAO

 

[kingsfan28]

This year exposed the Kings weaknesses - size, nastiness, and depth on D (LH).

It’s going to be really bad if both Gavrikov and Edler walk. Then Kings lose two LHD and even though they aren’t Regehr and Mitchell, they are big and physical.

I can't see them letting Gavrikov, not what they paid to get them. For all we know, his wife has already pick out their house in the south bay. He has to be a top priority to resign.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Do I agree with everything Todd does? Absolutely not. But he must be doing something right by getting the team to where they’re at this season.
Stranger things have happened, but I doubt Blake is going to fire The Koala.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Durzi-Roy GA/P60 2.95
Gavrikov-Roy GA/P60 .32

That's insane.

The Durzi effect on full display...