Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season Part 2

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“Gabe Vilardi is day-today”

“Kings not expecting Gabe Vilardi to return anytime soon”

This is some peak “Deadmarsh back by Christmas” type energy. f***.

It really is insane isn't it?

I was making jokes about it earlier but like, remember Arvidsson suddenly disappearing and then going from day to day to backectomy?

The Kings injury reporting is a bad joke and their rushing people back only to watch them go out of the lineup has happened more than I've ever seen in pro sports
 
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It really is insane isn't it?

I was making jokes about it earlier but like, remember Arvidsson suddenly disappearing and then going from day to day to backectomy?

The Kings injury reporting is a bad joke and their rushing people back only to watch them go out of the lineup has happened more than I've ever seen in pro sports

I'm taking all this with a grain of salt. Hoven is hit and miss with his reports and as long as Gabe is ready for the playoffs, let him wait it out.

Nobody said they had to play , it was their call. If Gabe felt he was ready to go , he goes. For all we know it could be something totally different that happened in his last game. Same with Fiala. He looked good in the warm up and then the first shift he had to stop awkwardly to avoid the ref in the corner, putting all his weight on the groin.
 

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The Kings .... and their rushing people back only to watch them go out of the lineup has happened more than I've ever seen in pro sports
If it ends up GV &/or Fiala came back too early and are finished for the year like Arvi last year -- well, it's very concerning because it's a pattern. Hopefully not and it's just over worrying from last year. Time will tell. But so far, it's not a good look. Even Edler playing on B2B so late in the season when you have Bjornfot called up ready to play.
I get it if we're fighting for that last #8 playoff spot. But not the case. You'd think they would have learned from last year. Even without last year, resting up and not rushing back seem prudent for a team gearing up for a deep playoff run.
 

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I did not see a thread for Petersen or 2023 offseason thread here so figured this may be thread this would fit

I was curious if you guys think that Kings would pay (A 2024 1st or 2025 1st) to a team to take on the rest of his contract and free up cap room for Kings this offseason?

Hawks are currently projected to have 43M+ in cap room (With no notable RFA's) and only 2 goalies signed in organization (Mrazek and Stauber)

If Kings are looking to dump him with sweetener the Hawks are probably the best possible fit

As for Petersen NTC I assume he would rather be in NHL then AHL so that shouldn't be issue
 
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With injuries it's impossible to figure out why things play out the way do they do without understanding exactly what is affecting a player. Guessing will just drive you nuts, so why bother. Every situation is unique.

Look at Columbus and the torn labrums. There would be conspiracy theories flying around here about training methods and such. Some wouldn't believe the team and think they just keep saying "torn labrum" to hide other things.
 

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I did not see a thread for Petersen or 2023 offseason thread here so figured this may be thread this would fit

I was curious if you guys think that Kings would pay (A 2024 1st or 2025 1st) to a team to take on the rest of his contract and free up cap room for Kings this offseason?

Hawks are currently projected to have 43M+ in cap room (With no notable RFA's) and only 2 goalies signed in organization (Mrazek and Stauber)

If Kings are looking to dump him with sweetener the Hawks are probably the best possible fit

As for Petersen NTC I assume he would rather be in NHL then AHL so that shouldn't be issue
Most likely not.

I think the Kings will look to move some combination of Arvidsson/Iafallo/Walker/Durzi instead. None of them have movement clauses also.

If the Kings hold on to Petersen, his buyout will be pretty cheap next offseason.
 

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I did not see a thread for Petersen or 2023 offseason thread here so figured this may be thread this would fit

I was curious if you guys think that Kings would pay (A 2024 1st or 2025 1st) to a team to take on the rest of his contract and free up cap room for Kings this offseason?

Hawks are currently projected to have 43M+ in cap room (With no notable RFA's) and only 2 goalies signed in organization (Mrazek and Stauber)

If Kings are looking to dump him with sweetener the Hawks are probably the best possible fit

As for Petersen NTC I assume he would rather be in NHL then AHL so that shouldn't be issue

I don't think they're interested. His value is at an all time low and with where the team is at I think they'd rather hold onto that first for something else. I think the Kings will give him a chance to earn his spot back next season, if he doesn't they'll just bury him in Ontario and then probably buy him out next offseason when the buyout is more palatable.
 

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I did not see a thread for Petersen or 2023 offseason thread here so figured this may be thread this would fit

I was curious if you guys think that Kings would pay (A 2024 1st or 2025 1st) to a team to take on the rest of his contract and free up cap room for Kings this offseason?

Hawks are currently projected to have 43M+ in cap room (With no notable RFA's) and only 2 goalies signed in organization (Mrazek and Stauber)

If Kings are looking to dump him with sweetener the Hawks are probably the best possible fit

As for Petersen NTC I assume he would rather be in NHL then AHL so that shouldn't be issue

Why would you pay the Hawks a 1st and Petersen when you know he is destined for the Yotes with a 3rd and a 4th.
 

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While I appreciate the kind words... my employment shou ld have nothing to do with my arguments.

I'm capable of being just as wrong as anybody else, and have been loudly and frequently.
OK, I understand you want to be diplomatic.

However, it would be logical that you would have more and better information that is a lot closer to first hand information to use in making your arguments.

I am sure there is range of emotion from frustration, to laughter at times, when you listen to the hockey revolutionaries here.

That is why I value your participation.

Thanks again,
 

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OK, I understand you want to be diplomatic.

However, it would be logical that you would have more and better information that is a lot closer to first hand information to use in making your arguments.

I am sure there is range of emotion from frustration, to laughter at times, when you listen to the hockey revolutionaries here.

That is why I value your participation.

Thanks again,
I do want to be diplomatic but I also don't have more or better information in this particular case.

In fact as a general rule of thumb the more information I have about something the less likely I am to talk about it.

EDIT: This was really just an argument over semantics. Was Copley part of the "plan" or wasn't he.

It's the same conversation as was taking place from 2006-2011 about what a 5 year plan is or isn't. Some people want to take incredibly literal and rigid definitions of words when it suits their narrative and I was just sick and in a "fun" mood and wanted to toy with language.

I probably shouldn't. But I did so here we are.
 

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I did not see a thread for Petersen or 2023 offseason thread here so figured this may be thread this would fit

I was curious if you guys think that Kings would pay (A 2024 1st or 2025 1st) to a team to take on the rest of his contract and free up cap room for Kings this offseason?

Hawks are currently projected to have 43M+ in cap room (With no notable RFA's) and only 2 goalies signed in organization (Mrazek and Stauber)

If Kings are looking to dump him with sweetener the Hawks are probably the best possible fit

As for Petersen NTC I assume he would rather be in NHL then AHL so that shouldn't be issue

Kingsboy11 covered it excellently below, it's probably not worth it for the Kings, as the buyout drops SIGNIFICANTLY next year. As bad as Cal has been even in the AHL, I'm sure they can just give him the opportunity to work it out early next year as they'll be on the hook for the cash anyway but need the cap and should save the 1st for an add rather than a dump, the following year Cal and other significant cap hits should change, including Kopitar's deal expiring and other buyouts dropping off.

I don't think they're interested. His value is at an all time low and with where the team is at I think they'd rather hold onto that first for something else. I think the Kings will give him a chance to earn his spot back next season, if he doesn't they'll just bury him in Ontario and then probably buy him out next offseason when the buyout is more palatable.
 
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If it ends up GV &/or Fiala came back too early and are finished for the year like Arvi last year -- well, it's very concerning because it's a pattern. Hopefully not and it's just over worrying from last year. Time will tell. But so far, it's not a good look. Even Edler playing on B2B so late in the season when you have Bjornfot called up ready to play.
I get it if we're fighting for that last #8 playoff spot. But not the case. You'd think they would have learned from last year. Even without last year, resting up and not rushing back seem prudent for a team gearing up for a deep playoff run.
I agree with you Bjornfort should have played and now Edler is out too so you can't even rotate him.

But the players are probably chomping at the bit to come back and hope they can skate through any injuries.

Also playoff position is important so you want to get home ice, this makes the liklehood of making it through the first round.

If guys are not in the first round and the team makes it, some of them may be back from injury in round 2.

The Pacific looks ominous right now and any edge could be the difference.
 

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I did not see a thread for Petersen or 2023 offseason thread here so figured this may be thread this would fit

I was curious if you guys think that Kings would pay (A 2024 1st or 2025 1st) to a team to take on the rest of his contract and free up cap room for Kings this offseason?

Hawks are currently projected to have 43M+ in cap room (With no notable RFA's) and only 2 goalies signed in organization (Mrazek and Stauber)

If Kings are looking to dump him with sweetener the Hawks are probably the best possible fit

As for Petersen NTC I assume he would rather be in NHL then AHL so that shouldn't be issue
I do want to be diplomatic but I also don't have more or better information in this particular case.

In fact as a general rule of thumb the more information I have about something the less likely I am to talk about it.

EDIT: This was really just an argument over semantics. Was Copley part of the "plan" or wasn't he.

It's the same conversation as was taking place from 2006-2011 about what a 5 year plan is or isn't. Some people want to take incredibly literal and rigid definitions of words when it suits their narrative and I was just sick and in a "fun" mood and wanted to toy with language.

I probably shouldn't. But I did so here we are.
Is there a dart board in the front office?
 

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EDIT: This was really just an argument over semantics. Was Copley part of the "plan" or wasn't he.

It's the same conversation as was taking place from 2006-2011 about what a 5 year plan is or isn't. Some people want to take incredibly literal and rigid definitions of words when it suits their narrative and I was just sick and in a "fun" mood and wanted to toy with language.

I probably shouldn't. But I did so here we are.
I was being "fun" too and playing with your analogy a bit. I even said it was silly and that my comments were meant tongue-in-cheek. But apparently to some people (not you), we're not allowed to have some fun and have back-and-forth discussions on topics. Or maybe it's to certain people that this gatekeeper likes or thinks you can't argue/discuss topics with...idk. Maybe I simply misunderstand what this board is -- like you know, a fan discussion board. Maybe i should go back to arguing with Sol since he is on this gatekeepers crap list and won't mind & will seemingly allow discussions between us.
 

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Most likely not.

I think the Kings will look to move some combination of Arvidsson/Iafallo/Walker/Durzi instead. None of them have movement clauses also.

If the Kings hold on to Petersen, his buyout will be pretty cheap next offseason.
Actually it won't. They have to wait till his final year on the contract to buy him out. Another option and far less likely, is they trade him for another bad contract(preferably a non-goalie).
 
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