Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season Part 2

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LeftKinger

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I missed the last 2 periods of the Blues game. What happened that makes you think concussion instead of aggravating whatever injury he had last week after sliding into the board?
You’re probably right. Concussion symptoms sometimes manifest later though, correct? Wasn’t sure if he just hit his back or if he hit the back of his head too.
 

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Some symptoms can start later, but a week is a long time. Could just be some aggravation or something completely different. Can't remember if he got hit by a shot or anything like that.
 
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little todd has run a popularity contest everywhere he's been. why should we be any different? little todd is the guy that sent leon drysaital to the minors and back to the ohl (that move could have been contractual however)
The GM makes those decisions, even if the coach may have input. It’s certainly not unprecedented for a GM to assign players against a coaches wishes. Maybe those moves help him become the player he is. Perhaps it was needed to sort his attitude, perhaps he needed specific development steps. Do you ‘know’ the context and rationale?



Guess they have no plans to play him in the NHL anytime soon this season.

Disappointed he’s not played more, I think he shown well enough personally but not surprising. It’s better he’s playing rather than sitting.
 

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HEY STATTO:
Yes im certain both the gm and the coach always have the players development and best interests in mind.
Heh.
Maybe, perhaps, perhaps.
The point is that neither kaliyev or spence (or drysaital was) is getting a shot at enough playing time to prove whether they can stick at the nhl level. This is on the coach.
 

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Yes im certain both the gm and the coach always have the players development and best interests in mind.
Heh.
Maybe, perhaps, perhaps.
The point is that neither kaliyev or spence (or drysaital was) is getting a shot at enough playing time to prove whether they can stick at the nhl level. This is on the coach.

Such f***ing bullshit lmao..jesus Christ...Kaliyev isn't getting a shot....

Kaliyev 21 years gold, 128 NHL games played...how the f*** is he NOT getting a shot?

Draisaitl at 21 years old 269 NHL games, but you are saying he never got a shot??

f***, talk about living in a f***ing make believe world.....
 

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Disappointed he’s not played more, I think he shown well enough personally but not surprising. It’s better he’s playing rather than sitting.
Yup, at this point, I'm just happy he's playing somewhere. I think he's a better option than Walker, Edler, and even Durzi, but whatever. Some people like to point out how little we know and don't work for the Kings and thus not allowed to have an opinion.
 

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Yup, at this point, I'm just happy he's playing somewhere. I think he's a better option than Walker, Edler, and even Durzi, but whatever. Some people like to point out how little we know and don't work for the Kings and thus not allowed to have an opinion.
Nope, not at all, have an opinion about it, I would love to see more of Spence....here's the difference, I don't think the coach is a flaming moron, or the GM sucks donkey balls...because I am not seeing more Spence, or more Kaliyev, or whatever the flavor of the week is.....

You can have differing opinions without looking like a f***ing moron.....thats all.....

EDIT: You used collectively not just KP
 

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Such f***ing bullshit lmao..jesus Christ...Kaliyev isn't getting a shot....

Kaliyev 21 years gold, 128 NHL games played...how the f*** is he NOT getting a shot?

Draisaitl at 21 years old 269 NHL games, but you are saying he never got a shot??

f***, talk about living in a f***ing make believe world.....
Honestly, Kaliyev has been more of a PP specialist up to this point. He still needs to round out his game and bring it every night. Kupari went through the same type of thing and now contributes more consistently in the 200ft game. The first 2-3 lines are already stacked and Kaliyev needs to make it impossible for the coach to take him out of the lineup. Don't get me wrong...I'm a Kaliyev fan. If it was up to me, I'd roll him on the 4th line with Grundstrom and Kupari.
 

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Honestly, Kaliyev has been more of a PP specialist up to this point. He still needs to round out his game and bring it every night. Kupari went through the same type of thing and now contributes more consistently in the 200ft game. The first 2-3 lines are already stacked and Kaliyev needs to make it impossible for the coach to take him out of the lineup. Don't get me wrong...I'm a Kaliyev fan. If it was up to me, I'd roll him on the 4th line with Grundstrom and Kupari.

I like Kaliyev's game a lot, before he broke his foot, he was great....since then he's been up and down, but to say he hasn't been give a shot, is just made up bullshit....
 
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Such f***ing bullshit lmao..jesus Christ...Kaliyev isn't getting a shot....

Kaliyev 21 years gold, 128 NHL games played...how the f*** is he NOT getting a shot?

Draisaitl at 21 years old 269 NHL games, but you are saying he never got a shot??

f***, talk about living in a f***ing make believe world.....
Such an impressive display
Go ahead and stamp your pretty little foot
Such dramatics
 
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Nope, not at all, have an opinion about it, I would love to see more of Spence....here's the difference, I don't think the coach is a flaming moron, or the GM sucks donkey balls...because I am not seeing more Spence, or more Kaliyev, or whatever the flavor of the week is.....

You can have differing opinions without looking like a f***ing moron.....thats all.....

EDIT: You used collectively not just KP
I'm assuming that was actually directed (at least partially) at me.
 

GoldenBearHockey

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I'm assuming that was actually directed (at least partially) at me.

Wasn't directed at anyone in particular really.......just guys who want to call the coach an idiot or moron, because there favorite plush toy isn't playing etc....

Do I want to see more Kaliyev, absolutely, do I realize he hasn't been that great since his injury, absolutely, do I know why we aren't seeing him, not a chance......
 

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Wasn't directed at anyone in particular really.......just guys who want to call the coach an idiot or moron, because there favorite plush toy isn't playing etc....

Do I want to see more Kaliyev, absolutely, do I realize he hasn't been that great since his injury, absolutely, do I know why we aren't seeing him, not a chance......
No I mean the thing you were replying to was directed at least partially at me since it included "Some people like to point out how little we know and don't work for the Kings and thus not allowed to have an opinion."
 

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no surprise i guess, they're really gonna have to sort this logjam out in the offseason. he looked like he belonged up here
I was lucky to see him at the only game ive been to this season. I think most reasonable analysis is he is better than Walker or Durzi but not enough where they get demoted... and since he's waiver exempt its just easier to deal with than trying to scratch them.. im sure they could waive Walker but Durzi has value. I dont like it, but I can understand how he's being handled.
 
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I like Kaliyev's game a lot, before he broke his foot, he was great....since then he's been up and down, but to say he hasn't been give a shot, is just made up bullshit....
I agree since the foot injury he’s not been quite right.
 

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I was lucky to see him at the only game ive been to this season. I think most reasonable analysis is he is better than Walker or Durzi but not enough where they get demoted... and since he's waiver exempt its just easier to deal with than trying to scratch them.. im sure they could waive Walker but Durzi has value. I dont like it, but I can understand how he's being handled.
Be careful. People sometimes struggle with a nuanced, balanced thought… :naughty::laugh:
 
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No I mean the thing you were replying to was directed at least partially at me since it included "Some people like to point out how little we know and don't work for the Kings and thus not allowed to have an opinion."

That wasn't me, that was the guy I replied to....so....umm....sure?
 

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I believe at this time last year the Kings expected that Kaliyev was going to be on a scoring line this season. But two things happened, they traded for Fiala, and he got passed by Vilardi who just played better. There also haven’t been many injuries to players in the Top 9.

The Kings are up against the cap and they will have to move at least one forward currently ahead of Kaliyev, probably two. And there is no one on the farm that is capable of beating him out for one of those spots.

And the notion that he isn’t valuable because he’s not a two-way player is more lunacy, not every player in the league is going to be a two-way player. You need some hedgehogs on the team that do something at an elite level, not a bunch of foxes who do nothing at an elite level.
 

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I believe at this time last year the Kings expected that Kaliyev was going to be on a scoring line this season. But two things happened, they traded for Fiala, and he got passed by Vilardi who just played better. There also haven’t been many injuries to players in the Top 9.

The Kings are up against the cap and they will have to move at least one forward currently ahead of Kaliyev, probably two. And there is no one on the farm that is capable of beating him out for one of those spots.

And the notion that he isn’t valuable because he’s not a two-way player is more lunacy, not every player in the league is going to be a two-way player. You need some hedgehogs on the team that do something at an elite level, not a bunch of foxes who do nothing at an elite level.

I can see him replacing Arvidsson...or Moore eventually, but it's not that he's not valuable as a two way player, his play in that department was absolutely FINE before his foot injury...but since then....he's had his hiccups and he has to play that out.....
 

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I can see him replacing Arvidsson...or Moore eventually, but it's not that he's not valuable as a two way player, his play in that department was absolutely FINE before his foot injury...but since then....he's had his hiccups and he has to play that out.....

Yep. Also, Grundstrum took his spot over the last few weeks. Currently there is no place in the top 9 to play. That leave the 4th line. It seems like others here think he's earn a spot in the top 6 or 9, guess what , he hasn't, even before the injury. He's not better than any of them. He needs to do more than play on the pp, and I think his time will come, but not yet.
 

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Yep. Also, Grundstrum took his spot over the last few weeks. Currently there is no place in the top 9 to play. That leave the 4th line. It seems like others here think he's earn a spot in the top 6 or 9, guess what , he hasn't, even before the injury. He's not better than any of them. He needs to do more than play on the pp, and I think his time will come, but not yet.

Yep, and he's 21.......people act like he's 28 and has never been given a shot
 
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I believe at this time last year the Kings expected that Kaliyev was going to be on a scoring line this season. But two things happened, they traded for Fiala, and he got passed by Vilardi who just played better. There also haven’t been many injuries to players in the Top 9.

The Kings are up against the cap and they will have to move at least one forward currently ahead of Kaliyev, probably two. And there is no one on the farm that is capable of beating him out for one of those spots.

And the notion that he isn’t valuable because he’s not a two-way player is more lunacy, not every player in the league is going to be a two-way player. You need some hedgehogs on the team that do something at an elite level, not a bunch of foxes who do nothing at an elite level.
Exactly, which is why I find it absurd that folks still get upset when Kaliyev is called a one trick pony. That's who he is, a one-way winger who shoots daggers and gets pucks to the net. No shame in that at all, spades are spades. He is just problematic on a 4th line that should be providing energy and simple, reliable north/south play. He isn't being edged out of the lineup by the mid-lineup multi-faceted play of Iafallo, Grundstrom or Moore or by the physicality of MacEwen, he is kept out by the production of Arvidsson, Fiala, Kempe and Vilardi in those purely offensive roles.

With those four locks for top winger roles next year, Kaliyev is looking at another year of dancing around his potential until Arvidsson likely leaves as a free agent.

And I'll say this until the cows come home, Fiala was an unnecessary acquisition who cost the team two fantastic assets, screwed up the cap and is keeping Kaliyev in purgatory. I know you value pure offense more than I do, but Blake sure showed either an embarrasing lack of faith or just outright impatience with the kids by making that deal.
 
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