Don't see Vancouver doing that, I would think the thin UFA class would support them in not, even if the players contract and production say they should.
Rumor: LA Kings and Detroit Red Wings are interested in Elias Pettersson (EP40)
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Peter Griffin
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It’s really odd because as cheap as Aqualini is, he has okay’ed numerous buyouts, including OEL’s which will end up costing close to $20M.
Can confidently say that EP40 will rebound with a new team.
There's a reason Eric Tulsky has gone after EP40 to be in Carolina for years. Even offered Necas apparently.
There's a reason Eric Tulsky has gone after EP40 to be in Carolina for years. Even offered Necas apparently.
Do you mean the Canucks 33rd pick?
I highly doubt that Canucks are going to eat a bad contract and trade EP40 just to move from 33 to 17.
Especially in a draft like this where theres a tiering of players from #15-40 imo.
Qwijjbo
I know that you know, that Vancouver has been a mess these past few years. You seem to crap all over Pettersson, while ignoring what is going on.........
-Revolving chairs coaching
-Death of his baby
-new wife
-Miller basically harrassing him daily
-no team direction since 2011
- played with a knee and wrist injury most of the season
-no real quality forwards to take pressure off him
-Loosing leadership in Zadorov and Lindholm...basically letting Captain Hughes to deal with the mess
I do not think you, or anyone on these boards would handle all these issues, any better.
IMO, it is in the Canucks best interest to wait and let things settle down, have the Canucks draft a couple of elite Centers, and letting Pettersson move to the wing. My bet is he slides back to 30+ goals a season, as soon as next season, with a little support. IF anything, it will be his supporting team-mates that keep his numbers down. He is not a driver, but he is talented.
So, you think you would handle all the shit any better?
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Rorschach
Who the f*** is Trevor Moore?
Yes but realize this, internal cap is NOT an internal salary cap. Often times a player's cap hit has nothing to do with said player's actual monetary salary.
Now, that doesn't mean I want to touch EP with a 10 foot pole, not even your 10 foot pole, lol.
People have been making excuses for him for 3 years. The bottom line is hes not earning his cap hit. Not remotely. I have empathy but at tge end of the day if someone is proposing a trade you need to factor hos on and off ice performance in regardless of the noise. I don't want him in Montreal at any price. If he struggles under the lens in Vancouver hes not going to .magically turn things around in the spotlight in Montreal
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Yeah the most recent seasons (aka the last 2) are the biggest indicator of a trend
He was fine in the spot light in Vancouver, he had the 3 - 30+ goal seasons.......that is not the issue
The question is logically, what changed?..........I gave you the obvious answers
Hes NEVER been good with the media and there's ample evidence to suggest hes not good with interacting with his teammates either. You can keep making excuses for him but that doesnt change the fact that hes not worth his contract. It could be mental, physical, team makeup. Whatever. With 6 years left hes too big a risk to take on. Can you imagine if Laine had 6 years left right now and people were trying to justify his hit going forward? He had 3 30+ goal seasons too. Hes worth nothjng right now and thats without the monster contract attached. Hockry is a "what have you done lately" sport. And what Pettersson has done in relation to his contract tract simply isn't good enough to "hope" he regains his form 3 years later. You want to give him the benefit of the doubt? Have at it. But do it while hes in Vancouver. Montreal cant derail thier rebuild by taking that risk. Id honestly rather run a 2nd year of Kapanen at jis meager cap hit and see how much he improves.
Jumptheshark
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the context is the the last 2 seasons of play, His injuries and play will the factored in
YOU AND OTHER CANUCK FANS can ignore the last two seasons but othet teams wil not
I realize that canuck fans will go 3 to 5 years in the back.
But the last 2 years, full play is the context of who he is now not 5 years ago and that hurts your argument.. Which I get as it hurt your value o f said player. His performance over the last two years are not what if but actual tractable stat
SOME canuck fans are expecting more for him than McDavid(go read any of his thread)
the context I am talking about is the last 2 physical year--which hurts his value
sorry, I was looking at the pick from the sharks at 41.
Or maybe a combo of the two kings second rounders and first for a re-shuffling with the Canucks picks.
Facts are not excuses Qwijjbo. Mental health is a real thing. I agee, while injured, he is over paid, but his potential is emmense, and that is only on the offensive side of the puck. On the defensive side, he is working his ass off. And as the cap goes up, his contract percentage shrinks. I said somewhere, I would not trade him, especially for some low ball offer. He still has elite 1st line upside. He is not a bust, he is an injured player. People under value him............and yes, I agree there is risk
And, your comment about the media, is an argument in my favor, as even with the fact that he has never been good with the media, he still had all those good years (3).
He needs to heal his brain, then he will improve. I mean, honestly, if he had a broken leg, would you expect him to skate, and call it an excuse? You need to have some empathy, and a little understanding.
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They're also an indicator of the Canucks being a generationally terrible team with one of the worst head coaches in team, if not league, history. Including a time where the captain and best player quit on the team and created a toxic in group/out group dynamic while Pettersson's wife had multiple public miscarriages.
This season Hichier had a PPG of 0.8, Pettersson's was 0.69, a difference of like 7 points over an 82 game season, we're not exactly comparing him to McDavid.
Breakers
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tortellini ain’t eating a cent of that contract
He is trying to find a partner to buyout his brother.
Their entire real estate business laid off a good chunk of the workforce as the well has dried up for developers in the city with like 7 going bankrupt YTD alone
He is trying to find a partner to buyout his brother.
Their entire real estate business laid off a good chunk of the workforce as the well has dried up for developers in the city with like 7 going bankrupt YTD alone
Run the Jewels
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Sure. But I don't need to advocate for bringing him to Mo treal when hes clearly damaged goods. Let him heal on someone elses dime where his uninspiredplay and huge contract wont negatively affect the team
Pettersson's regression isnt a huge mystery box.
- Got injured wrist and knee. Tendinitis in his knee. He then couldnt workout for most of the off-season because of the injury. Came to camp out of shape.
-Miller hated him for it. Miller throws his tantrums and harasses EP40 all season.
-EP40 checks out mentally as he has to deal with Miller on ice and then having multiple miss-carriages off ice
-Last year he was fine but Canucks were the worst team in the NHL and no firepower after getting rid of Miller and Hughes.
He got hurt right around the all -star break in 2025. Before that he had 24 pts in his last 25 games.. something like that
He's 100% capable of being a very good 1C again imo if traded.
- Got injured wrist and knee. Tendinitis in his knee. He then couldnt workout for most of the off-season because of the injury. Came to camp out of shape.
-Miller hated him for it. Miller throws his tantrums and harasses EP40 all season.
-EP40 checks out mentally as he has to deal with Miller on ice and then having multiple miss-carriages off ice
-Last year he was fine but Canucks were the worst team in the NHL and no firepower after getting rid of Miller and Hughes.
He got hurt right around the all -star break in 2025. Before that he had 24 pts in his last 25 games.. something like that
He's 100% capable of being a very good 1C again imo if traded.
Do you really think a 60 point 12M for next 6 years player is worth much more?
KingsOfCali25
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How is this a rumor? At best this is speculation from an unreliable source. This is Eklund level bad.
This is a writer just knowing names have been out there and throwing teams at it.
Would Pettersson be good for those teams if Larkin leaves and now that Kopitar is gone? Sure! But at 11.6m and with awful gameplay for the last couple seasons, Pettersson is not worth his contract or trade value people have for him on here. The guy has already been rumored to have had locker room issues, has lost a step or two on the ice, complete scoring drop off, and looks like he just doesn't care on the ice anymore.
You're talking from the LA side of a guy producing like Fiala but with a much more expensive contract (11.6m vs. 7.88m). You'd be looking for a prospect+pick+cap dump to match the contract difference.
Moore/Dumoulin+Ziemmer+pick
This is a writer just knowing names have been out there and throwing teams at it.
Would Pettersson be good for those teams if Larkin leaves and now that Kopitar is gone? Sure! But at 11.6m and with awful gameplay for the last couple seasons, Pettersson is not worth his contract or trade value people have for him on here. The guy has already been rumored to have had locker room issues, has lost a step or two on the ice, complete scoring drop off, and looks like he just doesn't care on the ice anymore.
You're talking from the LA side of a guy producing like Fiala but with a much more expensive contract (11.6m vs. 7.88m). You'd be looking for a prospect+pick+cap dump to match the contract difference.
Moore/Dumoulin+Ziemmer+pick
Leo Carlsson 67 points
Dylan Larkin 67 points
Nico Hischier 66 points
Adam Fantelli 59 points
Bo Horvat 57 points
RNH 56 points
Austin Mathews 53 points
JT Miller 53 points
Ellias Pettersson 51 points
Joel Eriksson Ek 51 points
Braydon Point 50 points
Nazi Kadri 50 points
Matt Bernier 50 points
All or most of these guys are 1st line Centers, all are playing on better teams, and none are dealing with the adversities Pettersson are dealing with.
LOL, so is Pettersson so bad, as it stands, or is it the contract numbers that magnify it? I think so! Keep in mind that Pettersson played on the worse team in the entire NHL, and vancouver was tied for 31, with Chicago, for the worst goals for in the league last year. Even with Quinn Hughes for most of the year.
So what does Matt Berniers get you in trade? Or Eriksson Ek? So, should we not look at Pettersson, with an eye tha says, his value is somewhere near all these guys, and what will they all get in trade? If Vancouver takes a lesser player who is a cap hit casualty, and that reduces Pettersson's cap hit, then should he not bring in quality assets in trade?
I am not going to chase every center in the league and argue their contracts, but "IF" Pettersson gained his points back, he would be above these guys in leap years. yes, Pettersson is not playing to his contract, but his potential is above all these guys!
Pettersson had a bad year, no doubt......so did these other guys! LOL
Why would Vancouver do that even if EP would waive which he's on record saying he has no desire to leave.
People keep thinking Vancouver is so desperate to move a young 1c two seasons removed from a 100 points and basically a ppg player until the 24-25 season.
I get hes struggled recently but injuries, bad coaching and lack of top six wingers imo have been the biggest issues.
Every rebuilding team usually struggles to draft a star 1c so given the team has no need to trade him for peanut. he's shown elite play most of his career while onboard and young enough to be part of a retool/build so unless they got the value of that player it makes much more sense to if a new system, better linemates and locker room etc, gets him back to his old self.
Plus based on comments from management and Manny, they are giving everyone a clean slate to assess things.
The issue is the Contract and Cap hit, which can be dealt with, in Retention and or Bad Cap player, or both!
His skill and potential is there............
And just wait until these centers start resigning, with the rising cap, all of a sudden the gap will close......
His skill and potential is there............
And just wait until these centers start resigning, with the rising cap, all of a sudden the gap will close......
I ask everyone not affiliated with Vancouver, are you aware of what he was dealing with this past season?
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