Rumor: LA Kings and Detroit Red Wings are interested in Elias Pettersson (EP40)

[Qwijibo]

Leo Carlsson 67 points
Dylan Larkin 67 points
Nico Hischier 66 points
Adam Fantelli 59 points
Bo Horvat 57 points
RNH 56 points
Austin Mathews 53 points
JT Miller 53 points
Ellias Pettersson 51 points
Joel Eriksson Ek 51 points
Braydon Point 50 points
Nazi Kadri 50 points
Matt Bernier 50 points

All or most of these guys are 1st line Centers, all are playing on better teams, and none are dealing with the adversities Pettersson are dealing with.

LOL, so is Pettersson so bad, as it stands, or is it the contract numbers that magnify it? I think so! Keep in mind that Pettersson played on the worse team in the entire NHL, and vancouver was tied for 31, with Chicago, for the worst goals for in the league last year. Even with Quinn Hughes for most of the year.

So what does Matt Berniers get you in trade? Or Eriksson Ek? So, should we not look at Pettersson, with an eye tha says, his value is somewhere near all these guys, and what will they all get in trade? If Vancouver takes a lesser player who is a cap hit casualty, and that reduces Pettersson's cap hit, then should he not bring in quality assets in trade?

I am not going to chase every center in the league and argue their contracts, but "IF" Pettersson gained his points back, he would be above these guys in leap years. yes, Pettersson is not playing to his contract, but his potential is above all these guys!

Pettersson had a bad year, no doubt......so did these other guys! LOL

Petterson has had a bad 2 1/2 years. At some points you have to accept that this is who he is now and maybe looks at the 89-100 point seasons as the outliers. Either way. Im more than comfortable carrying on with Kapanen and his ELC in the slot that Pettersson would occupy. He's more likely to improve than EP40 is to regain his firm. And he costs over $10m less.

 

[crowi]

Pettersson's regression isnt a huge mystery box.

- Got injured wrist and knee. Tendinitis in his knee. He then couldnt workout for most of the off-season because of the injury. Came to camp out of shape.

-Miller hated him for it. Miller throws his tantrums and harasses EP40 all season.

-EP40 checks out mentally as he has to deal with Miller on ice and then having multiple miss-carriages off ice

-Last year he was fine but Canucks were the worst team in the NHL and no firepower after getting rid of Miller and Hughes.

He got hurt right around the all -star break in 2025. Before that he had 24 pts in his last 25 games.. something like that

He's 100% capable of being a very good 1C again imo if traded.

Modern snakeoil salesman speech. I understand talking him up and going back to his past to sell him for your bad owner to not have to (or will not) retain, but come on now.

 

[SirloinUB]

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Doesn't seem like an $11.6m player, then you add in the fact the Sedins said he didn't show up to training camp in shape. This has Ken Holland written all over it.

If you look at his YoY skating metrics you notice a downward trend as well. Major red flag there.

 

[PensandCaps]

Larkin for EP40 +

No way Larkin wants to go there tho, but if he wants out bad enough...

 

[Petes2424]

Detroit has shown zero interest in Pettersson. This is completely invented by those thinking DET is desperate for a Top 6 C.

Does anyone actually think after the Larkin situation, and a coach who called many players on his team “Jerseys” last season, wants anything to do with Pettersson and all of his baggage?? They’re certainly not sending one of the top prospects in the sport for him.

 

[JKG33]

Ep doesn't seem to have that high of value and trading within the division could be a mistake. None the less. LA could give up:

Lafferirere, Turcotte, Clark and a 2nd

I thought this thread was about EP, not the Canucks next 2 first round picks

 

[Petes2424]

He's not that great regardless of where he was picked. I'd take LA's 1st, that conditional 2nd is unlikely to hit, and try to draft a higher upside player. It's the better gamble for where Vancouver is at right now.

Tell that to the scouts and hockey operations staffs from all 32 teams who just voted him as one of the Top 3 22U forward prospects in the AHL this past season.

The kid has a chance to be an absolute beast. Especially with that shot. He’s only gonna get stronger and smarter now.

 

[JiggywithGibby]

- EP40 generating alot of buzz around the league
- Canucks are not willing to retain
- Kings and Red Wings have shown strong interest recently and previously


Red Wings would be an interesting trade partner. They can replace Larkin with EP40. They also have assets that the Canucks would be interested.

LA Kings are not flushed with prospects but they do have high draft picks. Canucks also just hired Richard Seeley who was running the King's farm team in the AHL so Seeley will have alot of knowledge in regards to prospects.

Proposal:

To Det
Ep40

To Van
Michael Brandsegg Nygardd
conditional 2nd round pick ( Becomes a 1st if Pettersson scores over 60 points and Detroit makes playoffs)
4th round pick


To LA Kings
Ep40

To Van
2027 1st round pick top 12 protected
2028 Conditional 2nd round pick ( Becomes 1st if Petterson scores over 60 points and LA makes the playoffs)
4th round pick

Why are there conditions on the pick to turn into a first for Petey doing below the bare minimum production expected of a 1C?

 

[Waldorf]

So, you think you would handle all the shit any better?

Going to be blunt: as a person, I feel for him, but as a fan, I truly don't give a shit when it comes to his trade value. He's making 11 million dollars a year to play a game for a living while I and basically everyone else busts their ass and probably deal with the some of the same trials and tribulations in life. Regardless of whatever he's been dealing with in his personal life, or psychologically, or health wise, he's bringing it with him to his destination in a theoretical trade proposal.

Saying he deserves like, idk pick a name, a MBN or a Hage or But or any of these other guys is a stretch. In a vacuum that may be true but we aren't talking about the platonic ideal of a 1C EP here. We're talking about a guy who can't seem to get his shit together and makes 4-5 mil too much for that. I feel for him but it doesn't change the value proposition. Theres a risk those guys dont pan out, but theres risk on EP too. And unlike the prospects it comes with a contract.

 

[Canuck Fan]

Going to be blunt: as a person, I feel for him, but as a fan, I truly don't give a shit when it comes to his trade value. He's making 11 million dollars a year to play a game for a living while I and basically everyone else busts their ass and probably deal with the some of the same trials and tribulations in life. Regardless of whatever he's been dealing with in his personal life, or psychologically, or health wise, he's bringing it with him to his destination in a theoretical trade proposal.

Saying he deserves like, idk pick a name, a MBN or a Hage or But or any of these other guys is a stretch. In a vacuum that may be true but we aren't talking about the platonic ideal of a 1C EP here. We're talking about a guy who can't seem to get his shit together and makes 4-5 mil too much for that. I feel for him but it doesn't change the value proposition. Theres a risk those guys dont pan out, but theres risk on EP too. And unlike the prospects it comes with a contract.

I agree. He is making too much for his on ice, today. But he has proven he has that ability at the NHL level. He is injured, IMO. I agree that it is probably about 3.6 too much, today. But, if he rebounds, he will be alot closer to his contract number, and by the time the contract is over, it will be a reat deal.

If I was his GM, I am not trading him unless I get multiple good assets, because of potential. And I am not trading him, as he is, because, as you point out, he is not worth it, right now. I am willing to hold him for now, and see if he rebounds. "IF" he rebounds, and shows consistantly he is a 85 to 95 point player, I think he can be, I am keeping him, unless I get Hage and 2 firsts. Which "IF" he starts playing that good, I am probably keeping him, barring any unforeseen reasons.

In short, I get it!

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Detroit has shown zero interest in Pettersson. This is completely invented by those thinking DET is desperate for a Top 6 C.

Does anyone actually think after the Larkin situation, and a coach who called many players on his team “Jerseys” last season, wants anything to do with Pettersson and all of his baggage?? They’re certainly not sending one of the top prospects in the sport for him.

Who is "one of the top prospects in the sport" that Detroit has? And I agree with you on the zero interest for EP40.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

They can have him lololol

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Going to be blunt: as a person, I feel for him, but as a fan, I truly don't give a shit when it comes to his trade value. He's making 11 million dollars a year to play a game for a living while I and basically everyone else busts their ass and probably deal with the some of the same trials and tribulations in life. Regardless of whatever he's been dealing with in his personal life, or psychologically, or health wise, he's bringing it with him to his destination in a theoretical trade proposal.

Saying he deserves like, idk pick a name, a MBN or a Hage or But or any of these other guys is a stretch. In a vacuum that may be true but we aren't talking about the platonic ideal of a 1C EP here. We're talking about a guy who can't seem to get his shit together and makes 4-5 mil too much for that. I feel for him but it doesn't change the value proposition. Theres a risk those guys dont pan out, but theres risk on EP too. And unlike the prospects it comes with a contract.

Hage? Maybe if they retain 50% and give us a 1st

 

[Our Lady Peace]

He's not that great regardless of where he was picked. I'd take LA's 1st, that conditional 2nd is unlikely to hit, and try to draft a higher upside player. It's the better gamble for where Vancouver is at right now.

Very true, but that doesn't change anything I said. Detroit fans overvalue their prospects way too much, he's nothing special.

If I actually thought MBN is a real threat, I would've encouraged Vancouver to go for him instead to get him out of the division. But I don't.

From Vancouver's pov, I'd rather take the guaranteed LA first that has the potential to net a player with a higher ceiling than him, or at worst, someone similar to him. I'd take that gamble any day if I was in their position.

You had every opportunity not to write a horrible take about MBN but you went ahead and did it anyway. Congratulations

If Red Wings fans over value their prospects, neutral fans can certainly under value them too. Nice try making this a super-biased take though

 

[datsyukfan]

Who is "one of the top prospects in the sport" that Detroit has? And I agree with you on the zero interest for EP40.

I assume he means MBN

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

- EP40 generating alot of buzz around the league
- Canucks are not willing to retain
- Kings and Red Wings have shown strong interest recently and previously


Red Wings would be an interesting trade partner. They can replace Larkin with EP40. They also have assets that the Canucks would be interested.

LA Kings are not flushed with prospects but they do have high draft picks. Canucks also just hired Richard Seeley who was running the King's farm team in the AHL so Seeley will have alot of knowledge in regards to prospects.

Proposal:

To Det
Ep40

To Van
Michael Brandsegg Nygardd
conditional 2nd round pick ( Becomes a 1st if Pettersson scores over 60 points and Detroit makes playoffs)
4th round pick


To LA Kings
Ep40

To Van
2027 1st round pick top 12 protected
2028 Conditional 2nd round pick ( Becomes 1st if Petterson scores over 60 points and LA makes the playoffs)
4th round pick

How about this.

Danielson + Cossa + 2nd

For

Pettersson, no retention.

 

[Oddbob]

How about this.

Danielson + Cossa + 2nd

For

Pettersson, no retention.

 

[Paper]

How about this.

Danielson + Cossa + 2nd

For

Pettersson, no retention.

Lol, no one is giving anything of value for one of the worst contracts in the league.