LA KINGS 2023/4 Regular season discussion

[Statto]

Ok, absolutely crazy idea.
Campbell at 50% about 2.5 AAV.
His numbers went in the tank when traded to Edmonton. He was good in LA & Toronto.

Can he rebound to a backup or better level?

At this point he’s a downgrade and would be a complete gamble. He’s been that bad Oilers would probably let him go for future considerations and throw in a 1st. Slightly unfair perhaps but the cap hit is a big problem for the Oilers and anyone that takes him.

It’s a shame because he really looked good when he left here.

 

[Wildturkey12]

Kings jumped to number 1 on TSN's Power Rankings dropping Vegas to 2. That is kind of exciting

 

[Frolov 6'3]

The one thing that baffles me is the lack of goals by Kaliyev with his slapshot.

That was a bomb in juniors.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The one thing that baffles me is the lack of goals by Kaliyev with his slapshot.

That was a bomb in juniors.

Can't compare juniors to the NHL though.....you just can't.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Can't compare juniors to the NHL though.....you just can't.

Yes you can. You can easily have a NHL calibre shot while being a junior player.

Many have proven that already otherwise it wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Yes you can. You can easily have NHL shot while being in juniors.

Many have proven that already otherwise it wouldn’t surprise me.

Maybe I misread you there, but you are surprised by his lack of production in the NHL because he had an NHL shot in Juniors, and this is maybe where I am reading into it, more than likely the reason we know he had an NHL shot, is his production in juniors, and why isn't it producing now?

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Maybe I misread you there, but you are surprised by his lack of production in the NHL because he had an NHL shot in Juniors, and this is maybe where I am reading into it, more than likely the reason we know he had an NHL shot, is his production in juniors, and why isn't it producing now?

There are many other aspects of the game to overcome than just his shot. Like Jarret Stoll I would love to see him blast the puck from the point over and over again on the PP.

His lack of foot speed might be a problem here when his shot gets blocked but still….

BTW “not producing” is a little harsh. Should have had 20 goals last season already but mostly wrist shots.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

There are many other aspects of the game to overcome than just his shot. Like Jarret Stoll I would love to see him blast the puck from the point over and over again on the PP.

His lack of foot speed might be a problem here when his shot gets blocked but still….

BTW “not producing” is a little harsh. Should have had 20 goals last season already but mostly wrist shots.

Not producing like he did in junior, ala the comment, you can't compare production in Juniors to production in the NHL....that's what I was trying and failing to say

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

The one thing that baffles me is the lack of goals by Kaliyev with his slapshot.

That was a bomb in juniors.

I was thinking about this the other day actually and I think a big part of it is just the level of defensive play in the NHL. In juniors, Arty could just float around and get lost in coverage and then all of the sudden there's a cross ice pass open and boom, he one-times it into the back of the net.

In the NHL, players are MUCH better defensively and those cross ice passes get intercepted or broken up way more often than not. I think it's been a big thing Kaliyev's been adjusting to in the NHL. It's a lot harder for him to get open and lose his man and those one time opportunities are few and far between.

And when those opportunities do exist, goalies are much better at tracking those cross ice passes and getting over to make the save.

Another factor is linemates tbh... Prior to this year, Kaliyev spent most of his time playing on the 4th line with players that lacked the playmaking ability to fire a cross ice pass right into his wheel-house. Hopefully this year as he continues to play with better linemates, we start to see those one timers show up.

 

[Little Psycho]

Kinda crazy how we are getting scoring from everyone while Fiala and PLD are going through motions. Kempe looks like he’s finally breaking through.

 

[lumbergh]

The one thing that baffles me is the lack of goals by Kaliyev with his slapshot.

That was a bomb in juniors.

Why waste time with the slapshot when you have this?

 

[deaderhead28]

 

[Fishhead]

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One of the picks was also used to draft Laf, unless it was bounced around between teams.

 

[tny760]

you can't hang muzzin over the trade like that imo, his early retirement is a tragedy of sorts

ha ha we won is just poor sportsmanship

 

[lumbergh]

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The Maple Leafs got ~180 regular season games over 3.5 seasons of Jake Muzzin and won a ton of games during those years while the Kings lost a ton of games. He played >20 minutes per game, effectively anchoring their middle pairing. The Leafs brought Muzzin in for his playoff experience, but it wasn't his fault that the Leafs couldn't get out of the first round. Jack Campbell also had very good seasons with the Leafs, going 51-14-9. Clifford did what Clifford does, worked his butt off, threw hits, scored a little.

The Leafs made the trade in 2019 to try to get themselves over the hump in the playoffs. If someone wants to say they lost the trade, this is the right basis to make that statement. If the Maple Leafs had won the Cup in 2019 or 2020, they would have won the trade 100x over. Lame to say the Leafs lost the trade 4+ years later. The Kings made the trade during a rebuilding process.

Both teams got what they wanted out of the trade. That's what good trades do.

 

[tigermask48]

Calling it now....0 - 10, and this board blows into oblivion...everyone has to scrape by on their own with sticky notes and sharpies.....instead of iphones and screens....

I've just resigned myself to either the Kings are winning and I'm happy, or the Kings suck enough for changes to be made and I'm happy. Win-Win.

 

[chris kontos]

Why waste time with the slapshot when you have this?

This right here. Take it from ray ferraro, this boys a sniper

 

[BigBrown]

Why waste time with the slapshot when you have this?

I can't decide whether I find this look sinister or endearing. Maybe both.

 

[johnjm22]

 

[bobbythebrain]

Does the Koala like Kaliyev? Got an offer to pick him up for fantasy, but i also have been McLennan'ed before

 

[RTC31]

Kinda crazy how we are getting scoring from everyone while Fiala and PLD are going through motions. Kempe looks like he’s finally breaking through.

What's going on with Fiala and PLD? Everyone else seems to be humming along. Fiala only with 1 goal on the season. PLD's stat line is really not much for this season so far. Thought they would be a dominant pair for the team this year. The fact that the team still looks this good without those two playing their best says a lot imo.

 

[FrozenKing18]

I can't decide whether I find this look sinister or endearing. Maybe both.

 

[deaderhead28]

 

[chris kontos]

Is that vincent trocheck???

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

I know things are going well right now but PLD needs to pick it tf up....

He and Blake Lizotte have the exact same number of point, goals, and assists. Lizotte is a +6 and has a better faceoff record. PLD's line are the only Kings players who aren't a positive in terms of +/-.

I understand the advanced stats might be solid and understand the matchup nightmares having him on the team creates but at a certain point you have to produce if you're being paid $8.5 million. Need that line to get hot ASAP and would love to see it start with PL himself.