LA KINGS 2023/4 Regular season discussion

[Pucknut50]

Can't see the tweet at work but last night's game was the first NHL game of Clarke's where it was like "Holy shit!" for the entire game to the point he was getting more ice time because he was just too good offensively.

When Makar played his first playoff game--which was his first NHL game--it was obvious that he was going to be a huge problem for the rest of the league for a long time. Got those vibes last night from Clarke when the puck was on his stick. It was awesome.

Clarke is talented but he lacks wheels, strength, Explosiveness. All things Makar has. I do think he has excellent Hockey IQ and perfect to run a PP where he has more time and space. Right now he's a younger version of Durzi.

 

[YP44]

I didnt see this posted. I dont get the lack of self awareness from PLD. Im sure they show him vid of what he's not doing well.

Hard because i dislike both the player and coach haha.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

Hard because i dislike both the player and coach haha.

Please don’t buy me out…

 

[KingPuckChoo]

Pld isnt the only issue with the team right now . Majority of the team is suckin hard including Kempe and Kopitar most of all .

We are currently a 1 line team and thats Fiala and Moore , i think Danault could be better as well . But hey its only Plds fault

Cancer spreads

 

[tny760]

that's actually really interesting of PLD to specifically say that he wants to be coached, i thought todd had a rep for talking, maybe that's not the case

 

[tbrown33]

It's really disappointing that Rosen was dumped by the Kings for having the nerve to display professionalism and journalistic integrity. He was the best reporter this team ever had, but that is not what the Kings want. I was really hoping his insider blog would have worked, but the Kings fanbase is just to small to support a subscription model.

As far as what he said.

I think he's spot on with them needing to get points coming up here, if they don't, the road trip really could be the end of them.

Tough to compare this team to 2014 team, for one that team had three Hall of Famers in their primes at the three most important positions, and had won 6 playoff series and a SC the previous two years. This team has zero Hall of Famers in their prime and has no playoff success to speak of.

Say what you want about Todd, and I don't think he is the type of coach that will win a SC, but this system has been enough to have great regular season teams and even to win playoff rounds in other places. This is why I still think the problem with the Kings has much more to do with the Jimmy's and Joe's than it does the X's and O's and that is why Rob Blake and the cronies he surrounds himself with are a much bigger issue to this team than the head coach. If you fire Todd tomorrow you still don't have a championship caliber 1C, 1D or goaltender, how do you win without any of those things? The answer is you don't, yet the Kings still went forward and ended their rebuild without any of those things in place.

I have it on very good authority that Rosen was the most mistreated of any media member, as well as some other details about how their PR works. Just confirms all my priors. This org is a joke top to bottom.

 

[Nasti]

If PLD isn’t a McLellan guy like Rosen says, then it makes you wonder if Blake even consulted with his favorite coach. Then you really have to wonder if Blake was even the one who wanted PLD to begin with. Could it have been a Kovalchuk situation circa 2010 when Lieweke wanted him but Dean didn’t?

 

[YAYSAY]

that's actually really interesting of PLD to specifically say that he wants to be coached, i thought todd had a rep for talking, maybe that's not the case

PLD and having bad a relationship with coaches, name a more iconic duo

 

[Sol]

I didnt see this posted. I dont get the lack of self awareness from PLD. Im sure they show him vid of what he's not doing well.

If this is actually true and Mayor isn’t being a clickbait biznatch then it lends even more credence to the fact that Todd is an awful coach who has no idea of the nuance of the game as well as not knowing how to get the most out of his players on a personal level. This comes to no shock to any of us fans, as we have seen this idiot squander a 3-0 lead to get reverse swept and becoming one of the very few coaches in modern history to have this happen. You must be an awful coach to not be able to rein in your players from in 4 consecutive losses while you being up by such a wide margin.


I can also see PLD saying this to shift blame that he doesn’t get direction on what to do. But the shoe fits very well for Todd to be overlooked

 

[kingsholygrail]

Kempe's had a weird year. He's productive, but not as much on the goal side. He should still hit 30 goals though.

 

[tny760]

If this is actually true and Mayor isn’t being a clickbait biznatch then it lends even more credence to the fact that Todd is an awful coach who has no idea of the nuance of the game as well as not knowing how to get the most out of his players on a personal level. This comes to no shock to any of us fans, as we have seen this idiot squander a 3-0 lead to get reverse swept and becoming one of the very few coaches in modern history to have this happen. You must be an awful coach to not be able to rein in your players from in 4 consecutive losses while you being up by such a wide margin.


I can also see PLD saying this to shift blame that he doesn’t get direction on what to do. But the shoe fits very well for Todd to be overlooked

you typed that better than i could have, that's exactly how i feel

"well tell me how to do it then" is sometimes a cheap answer to someone saying you're doing it wrong but the way todd swings people in and out of the lineup could just as well be evidence to the players not knowing what they need to do to please him

 

[AbsentMojo]

If this is actually true and Mayor isn’t being a clickbait biznatch then it lends even more credence to the fact that Todd is an awful coach who has no idea of the nuance of the game as well as not knowing how to get the most out of his players on a personal level. This comes to no shock to any of us fans, as we have seen this idiot squander a 3-0 lead to get reverse swept and becoming one of the very few coaches in modern history to have this happen. You must be an awful coach to not be able to rein in your players from in 4 consecutive losses while you being up by such a wide margin.


I can also see PLD saying this to shift blame that he doesn’t get direction on what to do. But the shoe fits very well for Todd to be overlooked

None of it makes sense to me. How can you come to a new team and loaf this hard and pretend to be doing what you can for the team? Its alternate reality... Re Todd - based on his resume he is very suspect when it comes to actually getting a team to succeed. All those years with stacked teams in SJ and never made it past the WCF... couldnt get EDM to the playoffs and of course the reverse sweep is legendary.

 

[DoktorJeep]

I decided at the start of the season to take a break from following the Kings online and just watch the games. I figured I’d give myself half a season to look at things with “fresh eyes”. I was getting tired of rooting for my team to fail because I think management is a bunch of sleepy guys who are buddies with each other just trying to keep their jobs.

At the start, I thought a complete regime change was necessary to resurrect any hope of championships. But after just watching the product, I think only small tweaks are needed.

The upside is that we’ve got one real good kid in Byfield. That is the gold nugget buried in this turd. We’ve basically lucked into getting him and him being so good that he is truly untradeable at this point as a 21 year old.

For all their faults, Blake and Todd haven’t 100% buried the kids. I kind of feel their hands have been tied by their bosses. So this is why we get so many half measures from the managers. They’re afraid to make any mistake in front of Luc and AEG. It’s almost like the shook mentality filters down into the players. You can throw the media aka marketing department shills into that group who are acting shook.

On the ice, the results aren’t a mystery to my eyes. When things are easy, the team structure and talent are good enough to win most nights. When the opposition is able to disrupt the Kings systems, they don’t have enough talent to overcome the opposition on a consistent basis.

Because Blake has overpaid many players, there is no room to make trades in season that can fix apparent weaknesses. DuBois’s cap hit combined with too much money to Doughty, Anderson, Gavrikov, Moore, Danault and Lizotte are why the Kings are underperforming and which Blake is directly responsible for.

My issue from day 1 was that AEG didn’t hire outside the org in 2017. The internal candidates were completely unqualified to run a team in a city that expects championships. The only championships Luc Robitaille and Rob Blake have won are the hearts of sentimental fans who are fine with mediocrity.

 

[Sol]

None of it makes sense to me. How can you come to a new team and loaf this hard and pretend to be doing what you can for the team? Its alternate reality... Re Todd - based on his resume he is very suspect when it comes to actually getting a time to succeed. All those years with stacked teams in SJ and never made it past the WCF... couldnt get EDM to the playoffs and of course the reverse sweep is legendary.

I think both are true though. Todd has shown that he has zero clue with what he’s doing with players. And the coach killer might be saying it to dodge blame but it doesn’t mean there isn’t truth to his complaint. He could have said anything but the fact he made it sound like he’s not getting direction seems to fit Todd’s biggest weakness.

 

[Telos]

It is time for ownership to step in and fire Blake and Todd together. The decision is ultimately with them. They need to move Luc into an ambassador role and bring in a new vision. This isn't going to work, it would be ridiculous right now to expect the team, in its current state, to turn things around and win a round in the playoffs. It needs to be done. The longer it is prolonged from this point, the harder it is going to be to correct the course.

 

[King'sPawn]

Pretty disappointed that Andrew Knoll piled on. I'm glad he apologized and deleted the tweet, but it's still a shitty thing to say to the fanbase. The person quote tweeting it isn't me, but I wanted to give them credit. I'd post the tweet, but since it was deleted, wanted to give context for the apology.

 

[AbsentMojo]

It is time for ownership to step in and fire Blake and Todd together. The decision is ultimately with them. They need to move Luc into an ambassador role and bring in a new vision. This isn't going to work, it would be ridiculous right now to expect the team, in its current state, to turn things around and win a round in the playoffs. It needs to be done. The longer it is prolonged from this point, the harder it is going to be to correct the course.

At the bare minimum if they dont rightfully fire this crew they need to prevent any major deals going down. I agree that its almost too late to bring in someone with new systems. Berube was brought in after 20 games and won the cup his first season. Would 40 games left be enough to pay the price of retooling everything and still make the playoffs? Id say its maybe worth a shot but not very likely.. Ideally you do this in the offseason, find the best GM available and let him hire a coach he best connects with. But the main thing is, you dont let Waste mgt do any desperation moves this season that hamstrings then next regime.

 

[tny760]

Pretty disappointed that Andrew Knoll piled on. I'm glad he apologized and deleted the tweet, but it's still a shitty thing to say to the fanbase. The person quote tweeting it isn't me, but I wanted to give them credit. I'd post the tweet, but since it was deleted, wanted to give context for the apology.View attachment 808833

what was the "people are laughing at durzi" comment referencing? he's lighting it up on a "bad" team that looks like they're having a tremendous amount of fun every night

 

[tigermask48]

If this is actually true and Mayor isn’t being a clickbait biznatch then it lends even more credence to the fact that Todd is an awful coach who has no idea of the nuance of the game as well as not knowing how to get the most out of his players on a personal level. This comes to no shock to any of us fans, as we have seen this idiot squander a 3-0 lead to get reverse swept and becoming one of the very few coaches in modern history to have this happen. You must be an awful coach to not be able to rein in your players from in 4 consecutive losses while you being up by such a wide margin.


I can also see PLD saying this to shift blame that he doesn’t get direction on what to do. But the shoe fits very well for Todd to be overlooked

All these can be true at the same time.
This is 100% a clickbait spin on the situation.

Todd has years of evidence that he's a pretty awful hesd coach that doesn't use his players effectively.

PLD has mountains of evidence before he joined the Kings that he's lazy and clashes with coaches.

Which points out how much of this is just clickbait crap from the Mayor.

 

[BaileyFan]

Pretty disappointed that Andrew Knoll piled on. I'm glad he apologized and deleted the tweet, but it's still a shitty thing to say to the fanbase. The person quote tweeting it isn't me, but I wanted to give them credit. I'd post the tweet, but since it was deleted, wanted to give context for the apology.View attachment 808833

Who is laughing at Durzi? I’d say most Kings fans agree that he was utilized terribly last year and aren’t surprised that he’s become a legit scorer in AZ.

The people who dump on former Kings players are usually the Blake-defenders who keep doing it to justify his moves. Durzi is not an NHL defenseman, Faber would never play in LA, Gabe is a greedy whiner and I’m glad he’s gone, etc.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Pretty disappointed that Andrew Knoll piled on. I'm glad he apologized and deleted the tweet, but it's still a shitty thing to say to the fanbase. The person quote tweeting it isn't me, but I wanted to give them credit. I'd post the tweet, but since it was deleted, wanted to give context for the apology.View attachment 808833

Why? This milquetoast fan base is 90% of the reason this franchise has been a joke the majority of its existence.

 

[AbsentMojo]

All these can be true at the same time.
This is 100% a clickbait spin on the situation.

Todd has years of evidence that he's a pretty awful hesd coach that doesn't use his players effectively.

PLD has mountains of evidence before he joined the Kings that he's lazy and clashes with coaches.

Which points out how much of this is just clickbait crap from the Mayor.

Which actually highlights the main problem with any web reporting.. click bait wins out over integrity in reporting every time.

 

[LAKings88]

If PLD isn’t a McLellan guy like Rosen says, then it makes you wonder if Blake even consulted with his favorite coach. Then you really have to wonder if Blake was even the one who wanted PLD to begin with. Could it have been a Kovalchuk situation circa 2010 when Lieweke wanted him but Dean didn’t?

I've been wondering about a disconnect from gm and coach. It's all the rumblings of my addled brain tho.

Pretty disappointed that Andrew Knoll piled on. I'm glad he apologized and deleted the tweet, but it's still a shitty thing to say to the fanbase. The person quote tweeting it isn't me, but I wanted to give them credit. I'd post the tweet, but since it was deleted, wanted to give context for the apology.View attachment 808833

I think many fans liked Durzi gaffs and all. That's a little disingenuous from him.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Pretty disappointed that Andrew Knoll piled on. I'm glad he apologized and deleted the tweet, but it's still a shitty thing to say to the fanbase. The person quote tweeting it isn't me, but I wanted to give them credit. I'd post the tweet, but since it was deleted, wanted to give context for the apology.View attachment 808833

Just when I thought we were out of smug "we are always right" sycophants a challenger appears

What is it with these people? I don't understand. Do they think the Kings wouldn't be getting pinata-ed if they had a different fanbase or weren't in LA? they'd be getting absolutely fried

f*** this organization so so hard, It cannot burn hard enough at this point, they all deserve to be out of hockey with these attitudes

 

[Sol]

The best thing the Kings can do right now is plummet before the All Star break so Todd can get fired. I think this might actually happen if the Kings keep losing. I think they can salvage the season if they get a new coach during the break