Rumor: Kypreos says Matthews will be 13.5M (Haggling over term)

[bossram]

Marner *did* get $10.9 million when Matthews got $11.6 million on their last deals, so I could see Marner's camp arguing for within ~$1 million of whatever Matthews ends up getting. There's precedent for it.

That's typically not how contract negotiation work in these cases. Team/player presents their best case among the suite of recent comparables. Matthews is not a comparable for Marner.

Your view also ignores player performance since they signed their last contracts. If Marner did much worse, or Matthews was far better, it wouldn't justify Marner's camp just going "oh well I always earn $1M less than Matthews and that's just how it is".

 

[Golden_Jet]

That's typically not how contract negotiation work in these cases. Team/player presents their best case among the suite of recent comparables. Matthews is not a comparable for Marner.

Your view also ignores player performance since they signed their last contracts. If Marner did much worse, or Matthews was far better, it wouldn't justify Marner's camp just going "oh well I always earn $1M less than Matthews and that's just how it is".

That’s how it worked the first time around , they did compare, against Matthew’s and Tavares.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Matthews at 13.5 for 3 years at the cost of Nylander aka the only Leafs player who do "something" during the playoffs is an absolute "Chef's kiss"

Love it

 

[dubey]

I suppose 13.5 is better than the 8 mill Nick Suzuki makes just to occupy space so it could be worse

 

[centipede2233]

If they keep giving him excessively favorable contracts, of course he wants to stay.

Shanahan is such an enabler

 

[TribalPhoenix]

Matthews. Marner. Nylander.

Pay. Cheque. Players.

It really is that simple. They play with the intensity of soft serve ice cream.

 

[Funk21]

Honestly if it’s not 8 years he is just a greedy piece of s#%* who only cares about making money and I hope they trade him.

 

[Fatass]

Honestly if it’s not 8 years he is just a greedy piece of s#%* who only cares about making money and I hope they trade him.

Matthew’s has a full no move clause. Leafs can’t trade him. They either give in to his contract demands or he can walk away July 1, 2024 and get what he wants from another club.

 

[mkatcherin00]

Honestly if it’s not 8 years he is just a greedy piece of s#%* who only cares about making money and I hope they trade him.

I personally think he cares more about that type of stuff. Brand, etc. You see him following Beiber around. Nelk boys house. The fashion. Has a crazy mansion. Plays a lot of video games.

He does not seem as dedicated as guys like McDavid who will workout a lot in the summer with a lot of his teammates at Biosteel, etc. He seems a little immature IMO.

Great player though

 

[Ninjadude]

He isnt the best player in the league...greedy bastaroo if you ask me.

 

[On-the-Fly]

Honestly gotta feel for Leafs fans. Rebuild goes surprisingly well, you get your superstar with your first overall pick (unlike my habs) but he could not give two shits about winning, only about maximizing his career earnings. The other twerps on the team could be a great supporting cast to a superstar that really cared.

Frank Drebin. Fantastic username.

Ya man it sucks massive. Everything looked so great. Im old enough to know what it feels like to win some rounds. Too young to know what a cup feels like. I'm telling you, that lottery night win for Matthews was a top fan moment. Sucks so much to see what it has become.

 

[Divine]

Matthews at 13.5 for 3 years at the cost of Nylander aka the only Leafs player who do "something" during the playoffs is an absolute "Chef's kiss"

Love it

You know Matthews outscored Nylander in the playoffs almost every year, including this season, right?

"The only Leafs player who do something during the playoffs" was 4th on the Leafs in playoff scoring this year. HfBoards, you got to love it.

 

[HabzSauce]

Just sign him 3x14M and call it a day

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

He’s bending them over hard. He got paid a ridiculous amount of money to have his current contract walk him straight to UFA without actually buying any UFA years. Now he wants another ridiculous payment to walk him to an over 30 retirement contract. If I’m the Leafs, I’m insulted at this point. Doesn’t help that he plays like money is the only thing that matters to him when the most important hockey is played as well.

The first statement is actually incorrect. The 5 year deal actually bought out one UFA season, IIRC.

 

[canuckslover10]

Is a player who doesn't get it done in the playoffs really worth that price tag.

 

[Rude Dog]

Matthews at 13.5 for 3 years at the cost of Nylander aka the only Leafs player who do "something" during the playoffs is an absolute "Chef's kiss"

Love it

I am a fan of the Leafs and Nylander, but I find it fascinating how the perception of Nylander is that he shows up in the playoffs. While I agree he scored some big and timely goals, that is what fans remember. But if you go back and watch the series and count the number of fly bye's and faked block shots and half ass back checks, I have to wonder just how effective he really was. Unpopular opinion. But that is what I see. He is a max 9 million a year guy.

Is a player who doesn't get it done in the playoffs really worth that price tag.

Great question, but without him maybe they are like a few other Cdn teams that don't even make the playoffs. You need to keep 34. But there is no question watching a guy like McDavid elevate his game in the playoffs make me envious at that price point.

 

[Maplebeasts]

You know Matthews outscored Nylander in the playoffs almost every year, including this season, right?

"The only Leafs player who do something during the playoffs" was 4th on the Leafs in playoff scoring this year. HfBoards, you got to love it.

There should be an IQ test required before you're allowed to make an account or something. Some of these takes are just sad.

 

[34]

Is a player who doesn't get it done in the playoffs really worth that price tag.

So you are saying McDavid is not worth that price tag?

cool man.

 

[Craig Button]

if he wants little term then i say we should trade him.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

lol f*** this guy, so tired of these contracts

Watch him suffer a career Landeskog type injury and instantly regret his greed. Lol

 

[egelband]

He’s bending them over hard. He got paid a ridiculous amount of money to have his current contract walk him straight to UFA without actually buying any UFA years. Now he wants another ridiculous payment to walk him to an over 30 retirement contract. If I’m the Leafs, I’m insulted at this point. Doesn’t help that he plays like money is the only thing that matters to him when the most important hockey is played as well.

Yeah. Agreed. He absolutely deserves to get paid but also the Leafs have been as accommodating as possible. There should be some reciprocity from the Matthews side.

 

[jonlin]

I actually think the caphit at 13.5M would be fair if it was 8yrs. At 3-4yrs, it should be around 12M. In 5yrs cap will be much higher and the 13.5M would be a lower % of the cap than its now. I also would like to have a NMC for the first 3yrs and after that a 10-team NTC max.

 

[BB88]

It's not ideal, but not the end of the world imo. $13.5m will be about 15% of next years cap, leaving ~$42.5mil to fill out their roster. They will need to be creative & careful filling out the rest of their roster but $13.5mil for Matthews is fine imo.

Obviously you'd prefer to have him on a more team friendly deal, but not worth cutting off your own nose to spite your face

That’s definitely not ideal.

They’d be constantly paying Matthews top market value.

East has plenty of teams with their versions of Matthews making 8-10M.
Now add Marner+ the rest into the mix and Leafs will keep having depth trouble

 

[keglu]

So you are saying McDavid is not worth that price tag?

cool man.

McDavid has 4th highest PPG in PO history.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He was always going to be the highest paid player when it was his turn to re-up. Its incredible to see the reaction here, especially by Leaf fans. $13.5 is a fair number for a player of his calibre.

I have no problem with Matthews at that price its just a little pricey for a guy who never shows up when it really matters, is always reinjuring his wrist. and I really dont believe he cares if he loses.

love him on our team and I dont want him to leave but damn its alot of money. if his wrist gets back to normal. 100% easily worth it. if we get the Matthews we seen of this season throughout the duration of his next contract, its horrible value.