Kyle Dubas will not be back as GM

[uncleben]

I hope they go for Bergevin than, 'cause clearly, Toronto fans don't remember wtf is a truly horrendous GM

Either Bergevin, Chiarelli or Benning

I have a sickening feeling we're going to be reminded in the worst way

 

[MCR74]

My guess is a he asked for something that starts with $8.


They just keep saying on TSN radio that is so much higher than the top dogs.

That’s kind of the way he did contracts with his core players.

If there's any truth to this, he deserved the axe.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Can’t wait to hear how Leafs f***ed up that we let him go once he signs with another team.

 

[who_me?]

What does Shanahan even do? How much pull does he have over decision making there? Why can't he be GM?

Shanahan has 3 Cup rings and Dubas has zero. So according to Canadian logic, Shanahan knows a thing or two about winning.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

Bergevin and Therrien are available - as a experienced management team

I think Dubas' worst contract is/was Marner

 

[Fatass]

If there's any truth to this, he deserved the axe.

I can’t remember where I saw it but I think it was a 50% raise from his current 2.5. So around 4 mil per. Still a lot but not 8.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

You guys want this to happen so badly, relax no one thinks he’s good lmao.

Watch

 

[MCR74]

I can’t remember where I saw it but I think it was a 50% raise from his current 2.5. So around 4 mil per. Still a lot but not 8.

Still significant, especially given the (lack of) results.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

I'm not sure what this accomplishes. If you want to shake up the team, shake up the "team".

They might, probably want to get a new GM first..............(????????????)

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Tavares was good for toronto until only recently, people seem to forget that

But it was always a bad fit. Always.

It's like the Sharks acquiring Karlsson when they already had Burns. GMs get overly excited (or pressured by ownership and fans) to bring in a huge name talent where it almost feels like winning a mini Stanley Cup.

Kane to NYR felt similar.

The Leafs could have had Matthews, Nylander, Marner, and Kadri (with a lot of depth) and let them claim the team as their own and probably gotten each of them for cheaper.

Bringing in an 11 million dollar mercenary gave them less space to fill the rest of their roster, led them to bleed depth every off season, and caused all of the young core to want money commensurate with Tavares because Matthews and Marner were already better than him.

I like Dubas a lot and I think losing him hurts the Leafs, but he had to learn from a few pretty big f***-ups he made on the job. Tavares was one of them.

 

[ShelbyZ]

I think the doom and gloom around the Spezza resignation is kind of funny.

Dude's job for a year was probably to grab Kyle a coffee or hot dog and maybe dick around with the Leafs roster with Armchair GM on Capfriendly.com.

That's like 7 rungs down the ladder of importance from David Ayers, but some fans are acting like it's signifying the return of JFJ and Aki Berg.

 

[MCR74]

I think the doom and gloom around the Spezza resignation is kind of funny.

Dude's job for a year was probably to grab Kyle a coffee or hot dog and maybe dick around with the Leafs roster with Armchair GM on Capfriendly.com.

That's like 7 rungs down the ladder of importance from David Ayers, but some fans are acting like it's signifying the return of JFJ and Aki Berg.

What was his official role? l never understood why they kept Spezza around.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think the doom and gloom around the Spezza resignation is kind of funny.

Dude's job for a year was probably to grab Kyle a coffee or hot dog and maybe dick around with the Leafs roster with Armchair GM on Capfriendly.com.

That's like 7 rungs down the ladder of importance from David Ayers, but some fans are acting like it's signifying the return of JFJ and Aki Berg.

I mean you can easily argue he was an up and coming NHL executive that had a significant future in the Leafs. Spezza made a big deal in coming back to Toronto to play at home and seemingly loved being in the organization, I don't see how him saying "screw this, I'm out" isn't a thing of note.

This season, Spezza has spent every day absorbing many different roles. Known by his peers as a hockey nerd, he's aware of just about every player of the game at every level. When he wasn't at the World Juniors evaluating talent, he was in the trenches with Dubas and the rest of the management team, attending games both home and road and providing valuable insight. Not just from someone who 'played the game' but someone who knows the group.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/analysis/where-does-jason-spezza-fit-into-the-maple-leafs-plans-for-next-season

What was his official role? l never understood why they kept Spezza around.

Seems like it was basically a scout who worked directly with Dubas on the roster construction.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

I mean you can easily argue he was an up and coming NHL executive that had a significant future in the Leafs. Spezza made a big deal in coming back to Toronto to play at home and seemingly loved being in the organization, I don't see how him saying "screw this, I'm out" isn't a thing of note.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/analysis/where-does-jason-spezza-fit-into-the-maple-leafs-plans-for-next-season

Seems like it was basically a scout who worked directly with Dubas on the roster construction.

Yep.

It must have been an utter shitshow for Spezza to quit.

 

[Sundinisagod]

One of the most unqualified bafoons to even be hired as a GM. It didn't take a rocket surgeon to see how this was gunna go.

Good riddance, and I feel bad for whatever team is stupid enough to hire him next

Everything the opposite of what he said.

 

[Sempiternal]

Hearing that Zach Hyman is recruiting him to the Oilers.

 

[Scouter]

He may not be, but it's the timeline. There's about a month to make these decisions, before the NMCs kick in.

But players for a week or 2 aren't going to be wanting to think about hockey, there season just ended, you aren't seeing big contracts being signed now from teams who have just been eliminated form the playoffs.

 

[MCR74]

Hearing that Zach Hyman is recruiting him to the Oilers.

Yes. Building Leafs West has really paid off so far.

 

[Woodrow]

But players for a week or 2 aren't going to be wanting to think about hockey, there season just ended, you aren't seeing big contracts being signed now from teams who have just been eliminated form the playoffs.

Sure contracts aren't being signed but the Leafs have to make a call on how those contract negotiations are going to play out before the NMCs kick in or they risk losing the players for nothing in free agency. Seems like a bad time to have front office turmoil to me.

 

[Alienblood]

Of course he does, and if Shanny went to MLSE and said either give me a raise or I'm gone they should can him as well. You can't make those kind of demands when your team fails every year. Dubas saying what he said in public was just dumb.

He said he can do both jobs and there wasn't a need for Shanny which is true

 

[nturn06]

Darn I was hoping that the first round win was enough for the Leafs to extend him... Dubas probably shot himself in the foot during the press conference.

Hoping that the next guy in Toronto is "as good" as Dubas.

 

[Scouter]

Big trades also most of the time don't happen now, unless you are Jim Benning.

 

[Fatass]

Still significant, especially given the (lack of) results.

Lack of playoff results. The clubs he constructed set Leaf total point records.

 

[Empoleon8771]

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Chris Johnson is saying here that Dubas getting fired was more about the Dubas press conference than anything else. Shanahan tendered him a contract offer on Sunday and Dubas countered on Thursday, so I don't think the money was the thing here. It was Shanahan didn't want to extend him after his press conference expressing doubt on his future:

Ultimately, he got done in by the decision to speak publicly during the team’s end-of-season availability on Monday – “I had expressed to him that it was not my intention to talk to the media until I had something settled with him,” said Shanahan. “I expressed that I thought it was a good idea that maybe he didn’t either” – because it was there where Dubas first said he wasn’t sure about returning after learning how taxing things had been on his family.

That set off alarm bells for Shanahan.

“There was a shift in my thinking at that moment,” said Shanahan. “A dramatic shift in my thinking.”

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Dubas f’ed around and found out