Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas Not Returning

[ToneDog]

Over-reaction here and people piling on just cos they wanna see the Leafs fail.

Imo I'm fine with it and I'd be happier once Shanahan is gone too.

It will take another year of losing for Shanny's head to role. Let's hope we do not cross that bridge but if we do, yup his time will be up.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

My reading of it is Shanny severely misjudged how unsettled Dubas' likely was about a few things - family stuff, lack of extension in place maybe ect. Dubas probably more upset than anticipated hence the blow up at the initial media presser.

The fact that Shanny has been physically distant for much of the season (he lives in NYC) probably helped cloud the relationship

If you're too much of a Beta to tell your wife to butt out how good are you going to be negotiating against Alpha players, their agents, and opposing GMs?

 

[andora]

It was the Dubas presser that surprised Shanahan. Dubas totally waffled on whether he wanted to return. Shanahan immediately starts looking for a replacement…. And may have found some candidates that he thought were better than Dubas. The final straw was the bloated counter offer after just being humiliated in the playoffs.

i think Dubas may have been unduly influenced by his wife and agent who obviously misjudged the situation.

Right which is what i said.. that presser f***ed his own ass

Regardless of his intentions.. shanahans spidey sense still works and he made the call.

I dont think dubas was influenced by anyone but himself

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Sounds like their job will be easy early on. Might not have to do the hard thing of firing everyone if they leave themselves.

I am not sure about tbh...in the span of 5 weeks, draft, Free Agency, NTC & NMC is locked in so if we are looking to make trades all while unsure what kind of team we are going to pony up in the upcoming future without a coach.

I am pretty calm about the Matthews front tbh... Just the other aspects seem hectic for a short period of time which can determine the next couple of years.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

If you're too much of a Beta to tell your wife to butt out how good are you going to be negotiating against Alpha players, their agents, and opposing GMs?

Seems pretty weird to judge a GM on how much they can neglect their wife but okay

 

[ToneDog]

Amirov could've potentially been a better player than Mercer for all we know if not for a major illness

Would be great if we could find out who is the better NHLer.

 

[fahad203]

It will take another year of losing for Shanny's head to role. Let's hope we do not cross that bridge but if we do, yup his time will be up.

Didn't he sign a 6 year extension just few years ago?

 

[LeafEgo]

Shanny has to eat that there's no plan in place now, but does seem like he was led on since the tdl that a deal was going to happen. They turned on him at the last second knowing his back would be against the wall with the challenges ahead and impossible timeline.

A peek through the window and we see a circus. A circus from the beginning no doubt.

Think Lou and Babs covered up a lot of Shannys weaknesses during his 'good years'.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I am not worried too much about Matthews tbh, I think he'll re-sign while asking for some questions on the direction we are headed for.

It's more the moves that are required to be made regarding Marner, Nylander, and the drafts, as well the Free-agency that's coming up.

The tasks that are needed to hear from the exit interviews will be crucial ofc again for the new Head and then on top, the search for a new coach. Just a lot of it plays a critical part in the next what 6-weeks. Sounds like a lot of all-nighters are going to be needed in a short period of time to hit those marks unless Shanahan just expects to take over until the right fit is done.

Yea, Matthews' AAV could get extravagant. Interestingly though, I would prefer a shorter deal to keep that number down as opposed to the last time.

Tavares' situation actually would be better if it's sorted out sooner. If he is at all moveable, doing that and finding a replacement at 2c is important.

 

[dubey]

Tune in to the Sens anti-Leafs thread. They're enjoying this. Now what Kyle wind up in Ottawa once Snoop purchases the team.

To be fair this is the only thing going on in the city of Ottawa this long weekend

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

Shanahan says that they didn’t rescind any offer. Dubas and his agent wanted more in the final week.

Shanahan then said Dubas presented a new financial package for a new contract extension on Thursday evening. By then, Shanahan had gotten to a different place about the future of the Maple Leafs. On Friday morning, he drove to Dubas’ office at the Ford Performance Centre and told him they were moving on from Dubas as manager before making the announcement just before noon today.

“A gap had risen in the contract,” Shanahan said. “The email I received from Kyle, I felt differently (about the future).”

Shanahan clarified that, in his view, the deal didn’t fall apart over money.

Telling someone you're moving on is abandoning negotiations. And if not money, then what was it about?

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Tune in to the Sens anti-Leafs thread. They're enjoying this. Now what Kyle wind up in Ottawa once Snoop purchases the team.

The fact they have to talk about our dirty laundry while their team is about to be sold, can't even negotiate an arena in prime location and not touch playoffs should tell you all you know

 

[MCR74]

To be fair this is the only thing going on in the city of Ottawa this long weekend

Not true. There's the Tulip Festival.

The fact they have to talk about our dirty laundry while their team is about to be sold, can't even negotiate an arena in prime location and not touch playoffs should tell you all you know

Not only negotiate an arena, but have Melnyk sue his partner in the process.

Once Snoop buys the place, they'll be the only NHL arena with a cannabis dispensary in the concourse.

 

[meefer]

Shanny did a smart thing, he now controls the narrative. I don’t know what happened between the two, but a 15 minute presser, controlled by one voice...I’ll wait a bit longer to cast my vote.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Yea, Matthews' AAV could get extravagant. Interestingly though, I would prefer a shorter deal to keep that number down as opposed to the last time.

Tavares' situation actually would be better sorted out sooner. If he is at all moveable, doing that and finding a replacement at 2c is important.

I'd hope and pray for a MacKinnon-style deal on a shorter term but who knows what will happen.

Tavares we are locked into, we have to come to terms with that no matter what I think it'll be up to the upcoming coach to figure out a way to get the best case use out of him to make him a solid contributor during the playoffs.

 

[ToneDog]

Didn't he sign a 6 year extension just few years ago?

I believe he has 2 or 3 years remaining on the contract but is out of bullets IMO. Then again these guys were ready to run back the 3 stooges so maybe they spot Shanny a new bullet or two.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Tune in to the Sens anti-Leafs thread. They're enjoying this. Now what Kyle wind up in Ottawa once Snoop purchases the team.

They're just upset Blake Lively isn't coming to Ottawa.

I would be too.

 

[Zur En Arrh]

Shanahan should be fired. His power trip is about to impload the team

Lmfao, he literally just let go of a guy who used his family to leverage more money and power (probably in an attempt to gain political capital to get shanny job in the near future) and saved the leafs a lot of b.s.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Not true. There's the Tulip Festival.



Not only negotiate an arena, but have Melnyk sue his partner in the process.

Once Snoop buys the place, they'll be the only NHL arena with a cannabis dispensary in the concourse.

Trust me I've lived in that city, there are more 67ers and Leafs fans than Sens fans And there are some very very interesting stories about Melnyk.

 

[Trapper]

I truly hope you guys end up with Benning.

You mean this guy?
I thought he passed away? RIP.

 

[MCR74]

They're just upset Blake Lively isn't coming to Ottawa.

I would be too.

LOL!

 

[Leaf Rocket]

They're just upset Blake Lively isn't coming to Ottawa.

I would be too.

 

[MCR74]

Trust me I've lived in that city, there are more 67ers and Leafs fans than Sens fans And there are some very very interesting stories about Melnyk.

Tell me about it. I've lived in Ottawa since 2001. I've been here for the Melnyk takeover, Melnyk chewing out the fans, Karlsson's wife running Hoffman out of town, and other nuggets. It's entertaining.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Lmfao, he literally just let go of a guy who used his family to leverage more money and power (probably in an attempt to gain political capital to get shanny job in the near future) and saved the leafs a lot of b.s.

No he didn't. He let go of Kyle Dubas and understood how difficult things were on his family.

 

[BigBlu]

Spezza put in his resignation, only because Dubas has promised to take him with him at his next gig. It’s the safest play for Spezza. It also proves Dubas was lying. He’ll be seeking new employment elsewhere and quickly.