Kucherov Appears to Intentionally Trip Rasmussen As He Scores

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Bitch play by a bitch player yet again.

 

[Section337]

There are so many ways that tripping would not have been a thread on this board, just a 2 minute penalty, unfortunately it wasn’t one of those ways. In this instance, he realized that he could not reach the puck, so he decided to push the feet out, sideways, from under a guy going full speed inside the hash marks. Kucherov has spent untold 1000s of hours on ice, he knows Rasmussen will lose all control in that moment. He was ok with that.

At a minimum, it was reckless.

 

[Lshap]

What makes him so good is he hates to lose. I wish we had two more.

Every single player hates to lose. Kucherov's version includes throwing tantrums like a spoiled 8-year-old. This is not an admirable quality and, fortunately, it's the type of behaviour most NHL players have matured beyond.

 

[Sheppy]

That response by Detroit was weak, too.

 

[Rschmitz]

I don't know if there will be a suspension or not. It's just clear as day, without a shadow of a doubt, that this play was not about preventing a goal. It was sheer frustration. You can deflect all you want by saying "guys take penalties all the time to prevent eng". Totally irrelevant , this obviously isn't what that was. It's inarguable.

Then you factor in that Kucherov has taken cheap shots at guys going for eng's before (i.e Pageau), and has a history of being a bad sport when things don't go his way. He has let frustration get the best of him so many times over the years, this is just another example. Stop making excuses for what was a blatant cheap shot. Even if you don't consider it severe, there is a 0% chance you'd be OK with something like this if the roles were reversed.

I don't know who it is you think your talking to bud, I didn't defend it at all other than to call it exactly what it was, a dangerous trip near the net and to point out that just because it was an automatic goal wouldn't be a deterrent since it happens all of the time. You're the one inserting assumptions. Things like "he was frustrated" and "he intended to injure him" is pure speculation, just stop.

Maybe you should go back and read and make sure your ire is directed at the correct person.

 

[vaspa]

Every single player hates to lose. Kucherov's version includes throwing tantrums like a spoiled 8-year-old. This is not an admirable quality and, fortunately, it's the type of behaviour most NHL players have matured beyond.

Not to say what Kucherov did there wasn't a dick move and a tad dangerous, but come on?

Ever seen games with totally pointless scrums and fights towards the end of game after every whistle?

 

[Lshap]

Not to say what Kucherov did there wasn't a dick move and a tad dangerous, but come on?

Ever seen games with totally pointless scrums and fights towards the end of game after every whistle?

Sure. We all know hockey players are hypersensitive, but even among his peers Kucherov distinguishes himself as uniquely immature.

 

[Master P]

Not to say what Kucherov did there wasn't a dick move and a tad dangerous, but come on?

Ever seen games with totally pointless scrums and fights towards the end of game after every whistle?

Gotta "send a message" for the next game etc...

"Old time hockey"

 

[Dessloch]

Just remember the is the same league who deemed this slash/tripping sending Letang violently into the boards was not even a 2 minute penalty, nothing will come out of it! The league does not care about players safety!

 

[Romang67]

Dirty play by a dirty player. Always surprises me that someone doesn't eat a couple of game suspension to send a message back the following game.

 

[OysterForever]

Sure. We all know hockey players are hypersensitive, but even among his peers Kucherov distinguishes himself as uniquely immature.

Indeed.

 

[BB79]

Glad they lost. Good job Detroit. Hopefully the Bruins, Sens and Blue Jackets force TB out of the playoffs.

 

[bov]

I don't know who it is you think your talking to bud, I didn't defend it at all other than to call it exactly what it was, a dangerous trip near the net and to point out that just because it was an automatic goal wouldn't be a deterrent since it happens all of the time. You're the one inserting assumptions. Things like "he was frustrated" and "he intended to injure him" is pure speculation, just stop.

Maybe you should go back and read and make sure your ire is directed at the correct person.

It's the comments about how other players take penalties on guys going for empty nets, as if it's in any way relevant to this situation. But yes h1ntik or whatever it is was justifying it in a worse way than you. I didn't say intent to injure, but calling it frustration isn't speculative at all. Some, even most dirty plays there is at least a bit of room for debate...this one is cut and dry. Kuch decided to take his legs out and it was not in any way an effort to prevent the goal.

 

[Rschmitz]

Sure. We all know hockey players are hypersensitive, but even among his peers Kucherov distinguishes himself as uniquely immature.

I have two friends who work in the mental health field, one is the director of operational development at a mental health clinic and the other is a child psychologist, and we've talked about this. Kucherov is clearly on the spectrum, shows a lot of signs of high functioning autism. His awkward as f*** interviews and the way he copes using alcohol in social situations is very common with people with his condition, along with his "elevated" creative game.

He probably has antisocial personality disorder too, that's a rung underneath being a psychopath. He has impulsive behavior, and his trademark lack of emotion are big signs. Combine that with being in a foreign land and the strain of being a star, that's a cocktail of mental strain and on any given night he's probably on the verge of snapping and doing something.

 

[Master P]

I have two friends who work in the mental health field, one is the director of operational development at a mental health clinic and the other is a child psychologist, and we've talked about this. Kucherov is clearly on the spectrum, shows a lot of signs of high functioning autism. His awkward as f*** interviews and the way he copes using alcohol in social situations is very common with people with his condition, along with his "elevated" creative game.

He probably has antisocial personality disorder too, that's a rung underneath being a psychopath. He has impulsive behavior, and his trademark lack of emotion are big signs. Combine that with being in a foreign land and the strain of being a star, that's a cocktail of mental strain and on any given night he's probably on the verge of snapping and doing something.

You and that poster on the Marchand choking thread should share notes.

 

[JianYang]

Depends on what you mean by benefit of the doubt. I don’t think anyone really thinks he didn’t do it on purpose, there are probably just a few that make excuses for it

I meant just in general, and not this play in itself.

 

[Kegs]

Every single player hates to lose. Kucherov's version includes throwing tantrums like a spoiled 8-year-old. This is not an admirable quality and, fortunately, it's the type of behaviour most NHL players have matured beyond.

I wonder how many Stanley cups most players have.

 

[RedHawkDown]

I have two friends who work in the mental health field, one is the director of operational development at a mental health clinic and the other is a child psychologist, and we've talked about this. Kucherov is clearly on the spectrum, shows a lot of signs of high functioning autism. His awkward as f*** interviews and the way he copes using alcohol in social situations is very common with people with his condition, along with his "elevated" creative game.

He probably has antisocial personality disorder too, that's a rung underneath being a psychopath. He has impulsive behavior, and his trademark lack of emotion are big signs. Combine that with being in a foreign land and the strain of being a star, that's a cocktail of mental strain and on any given night he's probably on the verge of snapping and doing something.

So saying he intended to injure is pure speculation, but diagnosing him with multiple developmental and mental disorders is reasonable?
Tf is going on in this thread

 

[Rschmitz]

It's the comments about how other players take penalties on guys going for empty nets, as if it's in any way relevant to this situation. But yes h1ntik or whatever it is was justifying it in a worse way than you. I didn't say intent to injure, but calling it frustration isn't speculative at all. Some, even most dirty plays there is at least a bit of room for debate...this one is cut and dry. Kuch decided to take his legs out and it was not in any way an effort to prevent the goal.

It was said earlier in the thread that Kucherov intended to injure him because an empty net goal would be automatic due to a penalty, so yeah it should be pointed out that if it's supposed to be a full stop deterrent, it doesn't work.

Saying it was out of frustration due to the loss is an opinion, we don't know why Kucherov tripped him. He could have also tripped him, for instance, as retaliation for something earlier in the game(which happens a lot) that we didn't catch. Or maybe Kucherov is a psychopath, we simply don't know.

So saying he intended to injure is pure speculation, but diagnosing him with multiple developmental and mental disorders is reasonable?
Tf is going on in this thread

Nobody diagnosed him bud, learn to read.

You and that poster on the Marchand choking thread should share notes.

What did he say?

 

[Master P]

What did he say?

Something about he and his wife being lawyers and being familiar with "anti-social" behavior.

 

[Rschmitz]

Something about he and his wife being lawyers and being familiar with "anti-social" behavior.

Yeah IDK, I just thought sharing what some highly intelligent informed people had to say would add something to this thread. We as Lightning fans have witnessed quite a bit of behavior from Kucherov that most other fans don't get to see, they just see the goals and misbehavior and not how he is when he's not on the ice.

I certainly never claimed Kucherov has been diagnosed with anything, people are free to speculate.

 

[saintunspecified]

Scott Mayfield crosscheck training montage

 

[StrompTroller]

Kucherov is a scumbag, Cernak is a scumbag, Hedman can be a lowkey scumbag. Nothing really all that new here.

But they win/have won and are talented hockey players....shit stinks water is wet and the sun rises tomorrow.

 

[Lshap]

I wonder how many Stanley cups most players have.

I wonder what that has to do with this thread.

 

[bov]

It was said earlier in the thread that Kucherov intended to injure him because an empty net goal would be automatic due to a penalty, so yeah it should be pointed out that if it's supposed to be a full stop deterrent, it doesn't work.

Saying it was out of frustration due to the loss is an opinion, we don't know Kucherov tripped him. He could have also tripped him, for instance, as retaliation for something earlier in the game(which happens a lot) that we didn't catch. Or maybe Kucherov is a psychopath, we simply don't know.



Nobody diagnosed him bud, learn to read.

The cause of his frustration in that moment whether losing the game, retaliatory or due to being a psychopath is also irrelevant. Intent to injure is debatable in the sense that did he "want" to hurt Rasmussen? That's definitely speculative and imo unlikely. Saying he was frustrated just isn't. The origins of why he did what he did, however deep you want to dive into it, don't negate that. You're in here posting Pinkman memes having a little fun with it, no big deal but I wouldn't say you are being completely objective about Kucherov in this one. It was a dirty play and completely unrelated to preventing a goal. Bringing up players intentionally taking penalties in empty net situations is irrelevant in any context, as is the psychological assessment.