Rumor: Kris Russell to Edmonton 1 year/3.1 million?

[CornKicker]

its a yakupov for wideman deal. flame unload wideman and pick up a reclamation project, oilers get the offensive RH dman they need for a season

you can take this to the bank

 

[Seachd]

Chicago recalled Pokka and Hedberg.

The completely unfounded, unsubstantiated, former-HF-poster-with-a-"source" claims the Oilers will sign Russell this weekend, which would be interesting.

 

[Speed Shooter]

Is that supposed to worry us? He looked great in the World cup and looks like a good #3.

If you are an Oil fan than sure, you have plenty more to worry about.

No argument there.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

It's not "fact of the matter" because you have no idea what they've valued their players at. You're guessing.

I think going through the years of disappointment and never moving one of their high draft picks until Chiarelli came aboard and already moved one #1 overall pick in Hall and looked poised to move another one in Yakupov clearly shows that he doesnt view those golden calves in the same light that the previous management did.

Especially since there have been strong rumors that both Eberle and RNH were on the block in the last year as well. Chiarelli is definitely letting everyone know he believes that is not what he wants to be the core of the team whereas Edmonton in the past was unwilling to move any of them and rather wanted to build around them

 

[oXo Cube]

If you are an Oil fan than sure, you have plenty more to worry about.

No argument there.

The NMC gets downgraded to a limited no trade towards the end.

You know, like literally every other UFA contract given out to good players these days.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

How is it insulting to say they overvalued the players they have held on to and built around over the years. You take it as insult but thats merely the fact of the matter. Its also the reason Chiarelli has been trying to clean house in a sense

Treating it as a serious line of inquiry and not a drive-by insult doesn't work for you any better; unless you were in the GM suite when the last three managers held trade talks, you have no basis for believing that, hence the logical underpinning of your proposal is unfounded. In other words, you still lose.

 

[oXo Cube]

I think going through the years of disappointment and never moving one of their high draft picks until Chiarelli came aboard and already moved one #1 overall pick in Hall and looked poised to move another one in Yakupov clearly shows that he doesnt view those golden calves in the same light that the previous management did.

Especially since there have been strong rumors that both Eberle and RNH were on the block in the last year as well. Chiarelli is definitely letting everyone know he believes that is not what he wants to be the core of the team whereas Edmonton in the past was unwilling to move any of them and rather wanted to build around them

Sure, but we're talking about Patrick Maroon here. He is a literal Chiarelli aquisition so I don't see how this logic applies..

 

[McFlyingV]

If you are an Oil fan than sure, you have plenty more to worry about.

No argument there.

Ok? Quality posts.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

And you're asking for an asset the team would very clearly not give up for him.

So a 28 year old likely middle to bottom 6 winger (who has never hit 13 goals or 35 points before) is worth more a #5 dman straight up? And the only reason he hit 34 points was because he was playing next to Perry and Getzlaf in a Boudreau system

I mean if you truly believe that, I just dont know what to tell you

Those seem pretty fair trade values for what each actually is, not what you hope them to be

 

[Perfect_Drug]

When I read the title of this thread, I predicted a massive list of throwaway Dmen that are every bit as bad as the Dmen the Oilers currently have.

Guys that would likely pass through waivers. Probably about as bad as Reinhart, and Fayne.



Totally did not disappoint.


XD

 

[North]

I think going through the years of disappointment and never moving one of their high draft picks until Chiarelli came aboard and already moved one #1 overall pick in Hall and looked poised to move another one in Yakupov clearly shows that he doesnt view those golden calves in the same light that the previous management did.

Especially since there have been strong rumors that both Eberle and RNH were on the block in the last year as well. Chiarelli is definitely letting everyone know he believes that is not what he wants to be the core of the team whereas Edmonton in the past was unwilling to move any of them and rather wanted to build around them

Still a guess on your part.

The Oilers brought Maroon in for a reason and he's played his part well.

He's not one of the forwards they want to move on from.

Yakupov on the other hand...what would you offer for him?

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Treating it as a serious line of inquiry and not a drive-by insult doesn't work for you any better; unless you were in the GM suite when the last three managers held trade talks, you have no basis for believing that, hence the logical underpinning of your proposal is unfounded. In other words, you still lose.

Lol, ignore common sense and reading the tea leaves all you want.

 

[McTrashBoat]

So a 28 year old likely middle to bottom 6 winger (who has never hit 13 goals or 35 points before) is worth more a #5 dman straight up? And the only reason he hit 34 points was because he was playing next to Perry and Getzlaf in a Boudreau system

I mean if you truly believe that, I just dont know what to tell you

Those seem pretty fair trade values for what each actually is, not what you hope them to be

I honestly believe that Maroon is worth more to this team than a #5 dman.

 

[Seachd]

I honestly believe that Maroon is worth more to this team than a #5 dman.

I think there's absolutely no question. It's nice of him to let us know we're wrong, but obviously Chiarelli loves Maroon.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

TvR is as bad as Fayne is.

:/

Why the hell would the Oilers want to give up a contributing player for more garbage?

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

I think there's absolutely no question. It's nice of him to let us know we're wrong, but obviously Chiarelli loves Maroon.

LOL

Absolutely no question...

you can argue the point, but saying absolutely no question is just foolish

 

[McTrashBoat]

TvR is as bad as Fayne is.

:/

Why the hell would the Oilers want to give up a contributing player for more garbage?

Because a #5dman is the missing ingredient to be a contender

 

[Seachd]

LOL

Absolutely no question...

you can argue the point, but saying absolutely no question is just foolish

You don't think Chiarelli values a huge, cheap forward who has put up points and he was thrilled to acquire more than a bottom-pairing defenseman that every team has lots of? That's great, but it seems silly trying to convince us we're wrong.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

You don't think Chiarelli values a huge, cheap forward who has put up points and he was thrilled to acquire more than a bottom-pairing defenseman that every team has lots of? That's great, but it seems silly trying to convince us we're wrong.

it seems clear from the rumors out there than Chiarelli feels upgrading his defense massively important. Everything from the Sekera signing, to the Larsson trade, to the recent smoke about him trading to solidify the defense.

He seems to be making much more significant measures around the defense than offense in his tenure here

 

[Perfect_Drug]

it seems clear from the rumors out there than Chiarelli feels upgrading his defense massively important. Everything from the Sekera signing, to the Larsson trade, to the recent smoke about him trading to solidify the defense.

He seems to be making much more significant measures around the defense than offense in his tenure here

But TvR is worse than what the Oilers currently have.

He's not solidifying anything.

 

[Legionnaire11]

Unfortunately that shot was a harmless point shot, but now after bouncing off of Russell, it is a juicy rebound in the slot for a forward to bang in.

So he must have been like -283 on the season right?

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

But TvR is worse than what the Oilers currently have.

He's not solidifying anything.

TVR is not worse than Fayne, Ference, Gryba, or Davidson

not even close

 

[Kingsfan1]

Since RNH was named assistant captain i see that he is in the Oilers long term plans behind Mcdavid so maybe Oilers can dangle Draisaitl for one of the top defenders available either on the Ducks or out to east coast . They have the luxury of doing so and you cant keep all young talent must have experienced vets/super stars to have a nice balance throughout the lineup .

Oilers can reach stardom n Stanley Cup sooner if they use their assets wisely and make some good trades like the Kings did with acquiring Richards , Carter , Penner , Stoll , Greene. Roll players and star fire power

They can be scary good

 

[Seachd]

it seems clear from the rumors out there than Chiarelli feels upgrading his defense massively important. Everything from the Sekera signing, to the Larsson trade, to the recent smoke about him trading to solidify the defense.

He seems to be making much more significant measures around the defense than offense in his tenure here

Ok, but he's already done those. Those were big deals. "Solidify" means maybe trying to find someone on the right side. There are lots of options. Scott Mayfield was a decent option, and they didn't take him for free.

If the choices are to sign one (free agency), claim one (waivers) or trade for one, you can imagine the trade option wouldn't include a Chiarelli-hand-picked 230 lb. top 9 forward.

 

[CupofOil]

it seems clear from the rumors out there than Chiarelli feels upgrading his defense massively important. Everything from the Sekera signing, to the Larsson trade, to the recent smoke about him trading to solidify the defense.

He seems to be making much more significant measures around the defense than offense in his tenure here

He also clearly values power forwards. Lucic, Maroon, Kassian so why does him needing defense equate to him him dealing the power forward he acquired just last season who has been nothing but great for his team for a bottom pairing Dman?