Confirmed with Link: Kris Russell Signed for 4 years @ 4M per

[Mr Positive]

I haven't seen any reports of the NTC, but multiple reports of the NMC.

If Russell really has an NTC for the first two years I see this as a bad deal. If it's only an NMC for the last two years it's much better.

This seems to be a hedge against Nurse and Benning heading into restricted free agency. If they both play well and earn more than bridge contracts at least having Russell under contract gives the Oilers a little more leverage in negotiations. If one or both either aren't worth a contract at all then Russell will be there.

I don't really fear Russell falling of a cliff a la Ference.

The best case I see is Nurse and Benning both continuing to play well and Russell being traded next off-season.

Russell's deal has a NTC in the last two years, not the first two. My big fear for this deal was the possibility of a NTC, so I'm happy enough that we got a toothless one.

And I strongly believe we will trade him next summer, even if he plays well.

 

[guymez]

Russell's deal has a NTC in the last two years, not the first two. My big fear for this deal was the possibility of a NTC, so I'm happy enough that we got a toothless one.

And I strongly believe we will trade him next summer, even if he plays well.

I am good with that scenario. Another year of Russell would be okay.
Even if he gets traded by the deadline in the 2nd year that would be fine by me. If that's Chiarellis plan then I am okay with the signing.

 

[shoop]

Russell's deal has a NTC in the last two years, not the first two. My big fear for this deal was the possibility of a NTC, so I'm happy enough that we got a toothless one.

And I strongly believe we will trade him next summer, even if he plays well.

OK. That's what I heard about the NTC.

I hope Russell gets traded at the TDL. For that to happen the Oilers: 1. need to stay healthy ... including Sekera coming back strong. 2. need whoever are the 6/7 D's at the start of the season (Fayne, Oesterle, pick ups?) play well enough to go into the playoffs with.

 

[guymez]

OK. That's what I heard about the NTC.

I hope Russell gets traded at the TDL. For that to happen the Oilers: 1. need to stay healthy ... including Sekera coming back strong. 2. need whoever are the 6/7 D's at the start of the season (Fayne, Oesterle, pick ups?) play well enough to go into the playoffs with.

Have you seen a link that confirms the NTC? Cant seem to find anything.

 

[McAsuno]

have you seen a link that confirms the ntc? Cant seem to find anything.

How about this?

 

[shoop]

Have you seen a link that confirms the NTC? Cant seem to find anything.

Staples' story in the Journal reported just a modified NTC for the past two years of the deal.

 

[guymez]

How about this?

Thanks man.

 

[guymez]

Staples' story in the Journal reported just a modified NTC for the past two years of the deal.

Yeah found it. Staples actually quotes Rishaug.

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/kris-russell-contract-four-years-4-million-per-modified-no-trade-clause-insiders-say

I think that Staples has this backwards...no? I am interpreting Rishaugs tweet as Russell being movable in the first 2 years.

1. The key to this contract is the front-loading and ability to move Russell in the final two years of the deal.

 

[shoop]

Yeah found it. Staples actually quotes Rishaug.

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/kris-russell-contract-four-years-4-million-per-modified-no-trade-clause-insiders-say

I think that Staples has this backwards...no? I am interpreting Rishaugs tweet as Russell being movable in the first 2 years.

I thought Staples was referring to the modified part of the modified NTC in the last two years of the deal instead of a full NTC. Plus the front-loaded contract which makes Russell easier to move the last two years of the deal.

 

[guymez]

Staples' story in the Journal reported just a modified NTC for the past two years of the deal.

I thought Staples was referring to the modified part of the modified NTC in the last two years of the deal instead of a full NTC. Plus the front-loaded contract which makes Russell easier to move the last two years of the deal.

Oh okay. I didnt realize that there was a full NTC for the first 2 years.
Thanks for that.

 

[Kalost]

Russell's deal has a NTC in the last two years, not the first two. My big fear for this deal was the possibility of a NTC, so I'm happy enough that we got a toothless one.

And I strongly believe we will trade him next summer, even if he plays well.

I'm ok with the deal, but between Nurse and Benning, someone is getting forced out of the top 4 by the end of next season.

So it's either trade Sekera when NTC is gone or Russel before NTC kicks in lol, and i would easily keep Sekera over Russel.

but a NTC for the last 2 years sounds like Heres the contract you have been wanting, we want you for 1 more year and then you get the security of staying somewhere for a while idk, something like that it's weird to have the NTC at the end

 

[shoop]

Oh okay. I didnt realize that there was a full NTC for the first 2 years.
Thanks for that.

There is no restriction on trading Russell the first two years of the deal. At least that's how I'm reading it...

 

[Draiskull]

The 4th year puts a damper on this deal and this day.
Russell got paid like a top 4 Dman... he better deliver or face the boos

 

[guymez]

There is no restriction on trading Russell the first two years of the deal. At least that's how I'm reading it...

So the only clause is that there is a MNT for the last 2 years and its open for the first 2 years?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Not super happy with this one, but at the same time I do have time for Russell on this team, as I would for anyone that's willing to jump in front of a bus for the team.

Just so long as he's used as the anchor for the PK and 3rd pairing, I'll be happy. In a lot of ways I do think he's a perfect partner for Nurse.

Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Benning
Nurse-Russell
Oesterle

Could it be better? Sure. But, there's no exploitive weakness there. Plus it's still a relatively cheap defence; If I'm not mistaken, this group is cheaper than even what the team was icing near the turn of the decade...

Grebeshkov-Vishnovsky
Souray-Gilbert
Smid-Staios

Considering how much higher the cap is now, that's really impressive

 

[shoop]

So the only clause is that there is a MNT for the last 2 years and its open for the first 2 years?

Yes. That's why it's unlikely Russell hits year three as an Oiler.

 

[Mr Sakich]

The 4th year puts a damper on this deal and this day.
Russell got paid like a top 4 Dman... he better deliver or face the boos

in the last year of the deal, he is paid a 2.5 mill salary. He can be bought out for a cap hit of 1/4 of that for two years. He could also be buried in the AHL with a cap penalty of 1.5 mill for one year.

In reality, this is a 3 year deal if the oilers want to get out of it in year 4. Russel gets paid for 4 years so it is a win / win.

 

[oilers'72]

Was listening to Sports Night last night, and I wasn't paying attention to who Dean Millard was talking to, but he mentioned that the front-loaded option was Russell's idea. Chiarelli didn't bring it up in negotiations.

 

[ponokanocker]

Was really hoping he wouldn't be back. The sooner he's traded with this bad contract, the better. Ference signing 2.0.

 

[McJesusSaves97]

Just like others, I don't like the contract, but I am glad he is back & it looks like we can get out of this on the back end of the deal when guys like Jones & Bear are ready to step in. A big part of his value is the versatility he brings with being able to play both sides.

 

[Mr Positive]

Oh okay. I didnt realize that there was a full NTC for the first 2 years.
Thanks for that.

I think a lot of the comments about how the deal is movable in the last two years were talking before it was known that there was even a NTC in it at all. It's just a comment on the salary structure, although I suppose that makes Russell more attractive to whoever we'd trade him too, so that's something.

I'm going by capfriendly, which has a NTC only in the last two years, but these details are not confirmed. If he has a full NTC in the first two years, then I am officially against the deal. I still like the player a lot, but man.

It's just a cap issue. I know it's Chia's job to run the cap, but I'm imagining a scenario next summer where Nurse and/or Benning have passed Russell in the depth chart, and both need to be re-signed. McDavid's extension would land at that time too. If Russell has a full NTC, he's not waiving it for the good of the cap.

I must admit it is weird to have a no move in the last two years and not the first two. If we trade him before it kicks in, his new team can choose not to honour it. So it makes sense that there would be a NTC in the first two years, unless he feels we'll want to keep him beyond his 2nd year. Maybe...

 

[Aceboogie]

Such a bad contract. Then Calgary gets Hamonic for price we paid for Reinhart

 

[guymez]

I think a lot of the comments about how the deal is movable in the last two years were talking before it was known that there was even a NTC in it at all. It's just a comment on the salary structure, although I suppose that makes Russell more attractive to whoever we'd trade him too, so that's something.

I'm going by capfriendly, which has a NTC only in the last two years, but these details are not confirmed. If he has a full NTC in the first two years, then I am officially against the deal. I still like the player a lot, but man.

It's just a cap issue. I know it's Chia's job to run the cap, but I'm imagining a scenario next summer where Nurse and/or Benning have passed Russell in the depth chart, and both need to be re-signed. McDavid's extension would land at that time too. If Russell has a full NTC, he's not waiving it for the good of the cap.

I must admit it is weird to have a no move in the last two years and not the first two. If we trade him before it kicks in, his new team can choose not to honour it. So it makes sense that there would be a NTC in the first two years, unless he feels we'll want to keep him beyond his 2nd year. Maybe...

Completely agree with the bolded. I sincerely hope that the Modified NTC is only for the last 2 years of the contract.
I heard (cant recall where) that it was the Russell camp that came up with that alternative...not Chiarelli.

 

[guymez]

Such a bad contract. Then Calgary gets Hamonic for price we paid for Reinhart

Not quite...they added another 2nd.
Still...many Oiler fans think the added 2nd was too much.

Still pisses me off that Charelli saw so much value in Reinhart that he wasted 2 excellent assets that he could have used to actually make the team better...thats exactly what Trelving did.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Not quite...they added another 2nd.
Still...many Oiler fans think the added 2nd was too much.

Still pisses me off that Charelli saw so much value in Reinhart that he wasted 2 excellent assets that he could have used to actually make the team better...thats exactly what Trelving did.

The funny thing is that many fans not even a day prior were completely okay with giving Snow 2 1sts for him....