Player Discussion Krejci's perfect wingers

[Blowfish]

What about spooners perfect wingers

 

[bruinmann77]

He might have to wait till he moves to another team

 

[Pia8988]

What about spooners perfect wingers

Players that are better than he is and are willing to do the hard work on the line

 

[duffy]

The pro trade DK segment of this site (of which I've been part of for years) need to realize that his value now is worth more to the team than it would be in trade. They'd either have to eat a lot of his money, include a top notch asset for a team to eat that money, take back an equally unattractive salary, or take back a lesser player/asset than he's actually worth just to make a deal happen.

None of the scenarios are appealing. You have to resign yourselves that he's going to be here going forward and just hope he stays healthy/interested. That's the best scenario for the team.

Agree 100%. If we could get heavier skilled players like Backes plus another to play with DK and stop his blind back passes and low chance passes, we may have something. At least until his NMC is done or a prospect kicks him to the curb!

 

[duffy]

Hey, disagreement is good for the soul! I appreciate your point of view, but if you want to focus on their first year together, then I'd ask you what happened in their second and third years together. Or what happened this year for that matter. Year 2 for instance, Krejci was nearly team worst in +/- on a team with a +67 goal differential and admitted himself that his defensive game was weak. Lucic's only improved when away from that line which is also telling. Forward to this year, Krejci was a team worst -12 on a team with a +21 goal differential. Plus minus is sketchy, but when you start adding context around it it actually becomes pretty useful.

Also to be clear, I didn't say Krejci was bereft of defensive ability. When in a defensive situation (such as but not limited to the PK) he plays a responsible defensive game and is an asset in that regard. I said he plays a high risk, high reward style of offensive game and while that can often translate into offensive production for Boston, it can and does also translate into more transition for the opposition. Where guys like Bergeron and Marchand tend to give up possession down low on the cycle in the offensive zone (and where Bergeron is a perennial Selke finalist), Krejci's line will be more likely to give it up at the blueline gaining entry resulting in quick transition the other way.

That's not an indictment of Krejci's defensive ability, that's saying Krejci's linemates can't be mindless plugs with zero hockey IQ. When I said the KHL line was a defensive liability, that's one part Krejci's style creating transition for the opposition, and one part Horton and Lucic's weaker defensive ability.

His linemates should have a strong defensive game, because Krejci's style will create offensive chances - both ways.

Excellent post, wish I was so eloquent! That is why I said in another post if DK had Backes and a similar wing on the opposite side we MAY have something to make him at least viable until his NMC runs out!

 

[duffy]

I'd like to know how Lucic score 60 pts 3 times with Krejci outside of Krejci awesomeness. 60 pts is above average first line production. Was it because of his average speed? His below average agility? His average hands? His average shot? Or was it because throws big chek on the board? Like it or not Lucic was a high hockey IQ to score as much with that kind of skillset.

Just going with our own prospect from SSM. He has a least an equal shot (if not better), he has better hands, way more speed, way more agility ... If Lucic was able to put 60 pts season in the Nhl with his inferior skill set and him having no IQ, this guy is a sure bet to be a 90-100 pts player. Or maybe, just maybe Lucic without having off the chart IQ, has a pretty strong one.

Again for people claiming Krejci need tough winger, how did he produce with Eriksson? How did he produce with Satan? How did he produce with Wheeler/Ryder?

You are answering your own question, none of the players you listed were ever said to be not tough!
You don't have to be 6'6" to be tough! Can Neely was 6'1" and played like 6'9" so height or stature has nothing to do with tough! Johnny Goudreau is probably 4" shorter than Spooner but who plays with more heart or tougher? Now I agree Lucic never got the kudos he deserved but his lack of speed made him a negative on DKs line not his hockey IQ. Simply said DK makes high risk plays that without 2 Ray Bourques on the backend and at least one awesome defensive winger on his line makes him a lock for being a minus player until we can replace him!

 

[Black and Gold 11]

Feel like Zach Senyshyn will look good next to Krejci when he's ready. Good shot, drives the net, fairly physical, at least that's what I've gathered from reading about the kid

 

[Fonzerelli]

Gabrielle-Krejci-Pastrnak would be instant chemistry I think

Marchand-Bergeron-Backes
Gabrielle-Krejci-Pastrnak
(Beleskey/DeBrusk)-(Spooner/JFK)-Senyshyn
Vatrano-(Acciari/Kuraly)-Nash

That gives you skill and sandpaper throughout the lineup. With pure goal scorers on each line.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Gabrielle-Krejci-Pastrnak would be instant chemistry I think

Marchand-Bergeron-Backes
Gabrielle-Krejci-Pastrnak
(Beleskey/DeBrusk)-(Spooner/JFK)-Senyshyn
Vatrano-(Acciari/Kuraly)-Nash

That gives you skill and sandpaper throughout the lineup. With pure goal scorers on each line.

To be honest, I haven't seen a lot of that chemistry between the two of them. I hope it improves though, we need it.

 

[BNHL]

Gabrielle-Krejci-Pastrnak would be instant chemistry I think

Marchand-Bergeron-Backes
Gabrielle-Krejci-Pastrnak
(Beleskey/DeBrusk)-(Spooner/JFK)-Senyshyn
Vatrano-(Acciari/Kuraly)-Nash

That gives you skill and sandpaper throughout the lineup. With pure goal scorers on each line.

Not liking these lines. Backes is a third line center,Gabrielle has proved nothing,Beleskey stinks,Spooner should be moved,on and on.