Player Discussion Krejci's perfect wingers

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The pro trade DK segment of this site (of which I've been part of for years) need to realize that his value now is worth more to the team than it would be in trade. They'd either have to eat a lot of his money, include a top notch asset for a team to eat that money, take back an equally unattractive salary, or take back a lesser player/asset than he's actually worth just to make a deal happen.

None of the scenarios are appealing. You have to resign yourselves that he's going to be here going forward and just hope he stays healthy/interested. That's the best scenario for the team.
 

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The pro trade DK segment of this site (of which I've been part of for years) need to realize that his value now is worth more to the team than it would be in trade. They'd either have to eat a lot of his money, include a top notch asset for a team to eat that money, take back an equally unattractive salary, or take back a lesser player/asset than he's actually worth just to make a deal happen.

None of the scenarios are appealing. You have to resign yourselves that he's going to be here going forward and just hope he stays healthy/interested. That's the best scenario for the team.

Plus, I don't think they are entertaining this idea like we are, unless some are he comes knocking.
 

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David also has a NMC and can't be moved without his permission until the 2019-2020 season when he has to declare 50% of NHL teams to which he will accept a trade. I also understand he married a local lady and they have a new baby. DK ain't goin' nowhere for a few more years at least.
 

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David also has a NMC and can't be moved without his permission until the 2019-2020 season when he has to declare 50% of NHL teams to which he will accept a trade. I also understand he married a local lady and they have a new baby. DK ain't goin' nowhere for a few more years at least.

Hence the thread discussing players to play WITH him...
 

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Perfect wingers? High IQ players that can work some give-and-go and/or get open to shoot.

DeBrusk/Cehlarik-Krejci-Pasta

He doesn't need high IQ players. He was excellent with Horton and Lucic and neither of them have a brain.

Need him with talented big wingers. Following that format, a thumper and a shooter or something similar.
 

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He doesn't need high IQ players. He was excellent with Horton and Lucic and neither of them have a brain.

Need him with talented big wingers. Following that format, a thumper and a shooter or something similar.

Eriksson scored 30 with him just last year,so maybe not just thumpers and shooters.
 

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Doubtful the Bruins sign a UFA or make a trade for a top 6 LW. But if they did try to fill the void from outside - I go after Anders Lee. 26 years old signed to a cheap deal - huge kid scored 34 last season.
 

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He doesn't need high IQ players. He was excellent with Horton and Lucic and neither of them have a brain.

Need him with talented big wingers. Following that format, a thumper and a shooter or something similar.

Eriksson scored 30 with him just last year,so maybe not just thumpers and shooters.

He needs good players. With Krejci/Pasta a guy who can muck in corners and provide scoring touch makes sense.
 

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That's why I said talented big wingers. My point was that high hockey IQ is not a requirement with Krejci.

Disagree - the Horton, Lucic and Krejci line was the weak link on the team defensively and as Krejci tends to play a high risk, high reward style offensive game, his wingers should be fairly defensively responsible. That requires a modicum of brain power.

A guy like Oshie would be a solid fit there.
 

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Disagree - the Horton, Lucic and Krejci line was the weak link on the team defensively and as Krejci tends to play a high risk, high reward style offensive game, his wingers should be fairly defensively responsible. That requires a modicum of brain power.

A guy like Oshie would be a solid fit there.

And I disagree with virtually everything in this post minus the Oshie opinion although the Bruins cant afford him..

Their first season together, first of three, that line consisted of three players with a +/- of 20+. While watching them live, they were arguably the best line on the team in terms of breakout and playing in all three zones.. AGAINST other top line talent in the league. Now thats impressive.

Krejci is also very defensive minded. He wouldnt have succeeded under Claude at all, a la Spooner, if he wasnt. Hes also been used on the penalty kill countless times....

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And I disagree with virtually everything in this post minus the Oshie opinion although the Bruins cant afford him..

Their first season together, first of three, that line consisted of three players with a +/- of 20+. While watching them live, they were arguably the best line on the team in terms of breakout and playing in all three zones.. AGAINST other top line talent in the league. Now thats impressive.

Krejci is also very defensive minded. He wouldnt have succeeded under Claude at all, a la Spooner, if he wasnt. Hes also been used on the penalty kill countless times....

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Hey, disagreement is good for the soul! I appreciate your point of view, but if you want to focus on their first year together, then I'd ask you what happened in their second and third years together. Or what happened this year for that matter. Year 2 for instance, Krejci was nearly team worst in +/- on a team with a +67 goal differential and admitted himself that his defensive game was weak. Lucic's only improved when away from that line which is also telling. Forward to this year, Krejci was a team worst -12 on a team with a +21 goal differential. Plus minus is sketchy, but when you start adding context around it it actually becomes pretty useful.

Also to be clear, I didn't say Krejci was bereft of defensive ability. When in a defensive situation (such as but not limited to the PK) he plays a responsible defensive game and is an asset in that regard. I said he plays a high risk, high reward style of offensive game and while that can often translate into offensive production for Boston, it can and does also translate into more transition for the opposition. Where guys like Bergeron and Marchand tend to give up possession down low on the cycle in the offensive zone (and where Bergeron is a perennial Selke finalist), Krejci's line will be more likely to give it up at the blueline gaining entry resulting in quick transition the other way.

That's not an indictment of Krejci's defensive ability, that's saying Krejci's linemates can't be mindless plugs with zero hockey IQ. When I said the KHL line was a defensive liability, that's one part Krejci's style creating transition for the opposition, and one part Horton and Lucic's weaker defensive ability.

His linemates should have a strong defensive game, because Krejci's style will create offensive chances - both ways.
 

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The pro trade DK segment of this site (of which I've been part of for years) need to realize that his value now is worth more to the team than it would be in trade. They'd either have to eat a lot of his money, include a top notch asset for a team to eat that money, take back an equally unattractive salary, or take back a lesser player/asset than he's actually worth just to make a deal happen.

None of the scenarios are appealing. You have to resign yourselves that he's going to be here going forward and just hope he stays healthy/interested. That's the best scenario for the team.

I agree with you. Plus I see no reason for DK to waive. There's a lot of reasons it won't happen.
 

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That's why I said talented big wingers. My point was that high hockey IQ is not a requirement with Krejci.

I'd like to know how Lucic score 60 pts 3 times with Krejci outside of Krejci awesomeness. 60 pts is above average first line production. Was it because of his average speed? His below average agility? His average hands? His average shot? Or was it because throws big chek on the board? Like it or not Lucic was a high hockey IQ to score as much with that kind of skillset.

Just going with our own prospect from SSM. He has a least an equal shot (if not better), he has better hands, way more speed, way more agility ... If Lucic was able to put 60 pts season in the Nhl with his inferior skill set and him having no IQ, this guy is a sure bet to be a 90-100 pts player. Or maybe, just maybe Lucic without having off the chart IQ, has a pretty strong one.

Again for people claiming Krejci need tough winger, how did he produce with Eriksson? How did he produce with Satan? How did he produce with Wheeler/Ryder?
 

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landeskog/pasta....Trade Spooner+Zboril/Lauzon and this years 1st to get him

It is difficult to believe that Colorado would have any interest in Spooner. That proposed deal would not seem enticing to Colorado.
 

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It is difficult to believe that Colorado would have any interest in Spooner. That proposed deal would not seem enticing to Colorado.

I'll bite...why?

Last year Spooner had 39 points, Landeskog had 33.

Both had "bad" years and would probably do well with a fresh start except Spooner is going to be a whole lot cheaper. Adding one of our top D prospects and a 1st rounder should seal it.

The wish from Sakic was top prospect D and young players to build around. Zboril's stock is rising with every playoff game he does right now.
 

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We need to keep our young defenseman at this point. I like to work a trade around Spooner and the first rounder. But I think Ryan really needs to have better wingers
 

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You guys need to keep the cap in mind. They can't max it out. They'll be in cap prison in no time if they were to do some of these moves. Can't have everyone making over 5-6mil a year. The should maintain the view. Build from the back end out. They are hopefully building from weakness to strength on defense.
 

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