Value of: Kreider to Montreal

[mrinsane]

Scherbak+1rst pick and salary dump like DD could work.. maybe

 

[RyderRocks73]

Does someone need a history lesson?

 

[Legend123]

Judging by that pictures, If it is indeed Emelin who causes the fall, he should have falled on his belly. The fact that he looked like he wanted to steal the 2nd basement makes it pretty obvious about his intentions.

If it's accidental, Price doesn't stares at him after hitting him behind his net last year.

It was a dirty move plain and simple.

Agreed. If Price felt it was intentional and based on the respect he has around the League, it more than likely was^^

 

[Legend123]

Some conspiracy you're stirring there. Next, you might say AV told him to do it, since it was so early in the series and he wanted to get an advantage on the Habs.

You can definitely fall like that if you're speeding on a breakaway and you're only really balancing on one leg. Kreider gets knocked in the right leg. It gets taken out from under him and lags behind him. His left leg/foot is still going. Momentum shifts and suddenly his other leg is moving front of his body. Weight changes, gravity takes over, and he falls backwards, feet first, but he's still moving forward. Crashes into Price.

That's basic physics.

https://gfycat.com/LoathsomeEntireChinchilla

I was obviously joking

Btw if price felt aimed, he prob knows more than the rest of us.

 

[Irishguy42]

Apparently the only possible way people can fall over is if it's forwards onto your belly.

Sure, if both of Kreiders legs were slashed/hooked/whatever verbiage you want to use, then you have a point.

But that wasn't the case. Only his right leg was majorly contacted. One leg was left hanging in the air, the other was going full speed in front. It's no question which way the body begins to shift towards (hint: it begins to go back). Hence, he naturally falls backwards.

 

[Irishguy42]

I was obviously joking

Btw if price felt aimed, he prob knows more than the rest of us.

And we can all speculate about that until the cows come home. Because neither Kreider nor Price will probably speak about it and point fingers until...well...long after their careers.

Until then, we just have the tape to watch over and over. Which means we'll all be arguing about it each and every time it's brought up.

 

[Legend123]

Apparently the only possible way people can fall over is if it's forwards onto your belly.

Sure, if both of Kreiders legs were slashed/hooked/whatever verbiage you want to use, then you have a point.

But that wasn't the case. Only his right leg was majorly contacted. One leg was left hanging in the air, the other was going full speed in front. It's no question which way the body begins to shift towards (hint: it begins to go back). Hence, he naturally falls backwards.

He clearly took that excuse to slide into Price.

 

[Legend123]

And we can all speculate about that until the cows come home. Because neither Kreider nor Price will probably speak about it and point fingers until...well...long after their careers.

Until then, we just have the tape to watch over and over.

cuz he would drill Krieder for no reason?

 

[Irishguy42]

cuz he would drill Krieder for no reason?

Just because Price felt like he was targeted doesn't automatically mean that Kreider intended to hit him.

It's a perfectly reasonable scenario for Price to feel like he was targeted and want a little revenge (ie his own smackdown on Kreider) and for Kreider to not have intentionally done it. It's not at all impossible for that to have been the case.

Anyway, this is getting OT.

MTL wouldn't trade for Kreider because it would probably take an overpayment, which is something they don't want/need to do.

 

[Legend123]

Just because Price felt like he was targeted doesn't automatically mean that Kreider intended to hit him.

It's a perfectly reasonable scenario for Price to feel like he was targeted and for Kreider to not have intentionally done it. It's not at all impossible for that to have been the case.

Agreed but Price aint that type of player.

 

[Irishguy42]

Agreed but Price aint that type of player.

Like I said, we won't know unless either of them speaks on it. And we know that won't happen. This argument will just circle round and round.

 

[Legend123]

Like I said, we won't know unless either of them speaks on it. And we know that won't happen. This argument will just circle round and round.

Alright but trading for Kreider will prob hurt Price's feelings or hurt his trust or confidence in the habs brass. So yeah not risking hurting our chances at extending Price to acquire Krieder. We should just go after Marchand after this season.

 

[TT1]

McD>>>Pacioretty and it isnt even close

the proposal was Girardi + McD for Patch, now run along~~

 

[TGWL]

I absolutely hate the habs. I'd look for anyone to **** on them but Kreider did this on purpose. He felt a stick on his legs and tried to sell it. Did a bad job of it because a stick hitting the front of your shin pads don't suddenly make your legs shoot out in front of you.


Habs aren't getting Kreider. Too important to the Rangers

Thanks. Let me know when you skate as fast as him, get whacked like he did- where the stick actually flexes, and tell me about how you tweaked your body to fall a certain way. So many experts.

Kreider's skating style is big strides, legs wide. He's not the most finesse skater. He's not an East-West skater. He's not a skater who can stop and go, with quick turns. And until you can get Kreider to come out and say he did it on purpose, just let it go. Because that argument looks silly.

 

[TGWL]

Judging by that pictures, If it is indeed Emelin who causes the fall, he should have falled on his belly. The fact that he looked like he wanted to steal the 2nd basement makes it pretty obvious about his intentions.

If it's accidental, Price doesn't stares at him after hitting him behind his net last year.

It was a dirty move plain and simple.

Yes, Price is such a gentlemen that he would never be upset at a possible accidental hit taking him out of the playoffs. He would only be unhinged from a hit on purpose that took him out of the playoffs.

 

[Off Sides]

Stand on one foot, lean back a little, make a motion like you are shooting the puck, where does your body and feet want to go? Now try it on skates.

 

[Shootertooter]

You're referring to Emelin right?

Yeah, Habs fans seem to ignore that Emelin gave Kreids a two handed whack to the achilles to cause the collision.

The Rangers.....and likely every other NHL team, are not interested in Emelin and DD. Kreider is as important to the Rangers as Galy is to the Habs. That would likely be the necessary return for Kreider in order to begin considering moving him. IMHO.

 

[Legend123]

Yeah, Habs fans seem to ignore that Emelin gave Kreids a two handed whack to the achilles to cause the collision.

The Rangers.....and likely every other NHL team, are not interested in Emelin and DD. Kreider is as important to the Rangers as Galy is to the Habs. That would likely be the necessary return for Kreider in order to begin considering moving him. IMHO.

which Gally? I wouldnt trade either gallies for krieds.

 

[Shootertooter]

which Gally? I wouldnt trade either gallies for krieds.

A. Galchenyuk

As has been stated by anyone outside of Montreal, the offer of Emelin and DD for just about any proposal coming from a Habs fan must be an inside joke.

I personally would rather keep Kreider from this point. He needs a little polishing but he is going to be a beast.

 

[Legend123]

A. Galchenyuk

As has been stated by anyone outside of Montreal, the offer of Emelin and DD for just about any proposal coming from a Habs fan must be an inside joke.

I personally would rather keep Kreider from this point. He needs a little polishing but he is going to be a beast.

No offense but

 

[Gavy]

Thanks. Let me know when you skate as fast as him, get whacked like he did- where the stick actually flexes, and tell me about how you tweaked your body to fall a certain way. So many experts.

Kreider's skating style is big strides, legs wide. He's not the most finesse skater. He's not an East-West skater. He's not a skater who can stop and go, with quick turns. And until you can get Kreider to come out and say he did it on purpose, just let it go. Because that argument looks silly.

I've played a very high level of hockey so I'm not unfamiliar with skating on a break away with a defender hanging off you.
I'm of the opinion he did that one on purpose. If you ranger fans don't like it, oh well. I have a bias against the habs and I still think he did that one on purpose.

Let it go

 

[jacks*]

A. Galchenyuk

As has been stated by anyone outside of Montreal, the offer of Emelin and DD for just about any proposal coming from a Habs fan must be an inside joke.

I personally would rather keep Kreider from this point. He needs a little polishing but he is going to be a beast.

A. Galchenyuk >>Kreider .

 

[Stuzchuk]

GMMB: "Guys, we've acquired C. Kreider today!! "

Carey Price: "**** that ****, I want a trade! "

 

[Shootertooter]

No offense but

None taken but understand it is even more comical when seemingly every Montreal proposal starts with Emelin and DD to team XXXXX for their team's top 6 forward.

Personally I'd prefer to keep Kreider over any player the Habs have not named Weber or Patches. That is just me though, I like the style be plays.

 

[Shootertooter]

A. Galchenyuk >>Kreider .

I am not offering Kreider for Gally. I simply said any trade for Kreider conversation starts with Gally. If you followed what I said previously, it would take a substantial player to acquire Kreider not the cap dumps and dead weight many Montreal fans offer for every trade scheme they think up. Keep yours and we will gladly keep ours.