GDT: Kraken vs Utah Hockey Club, 14 March

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Tolvanen on the board within the first minute.

Looks like a pretty brutal turnover by the Utah D in their own end that Tolvanen and Cups pounced on

Earty PP now, NHL.com has Wright out there on PP1 with Schwartz, Kakko, McCann and Dunn. Glad to see the kid getting his due on the PP.
 
Huh on the goal line angle replay it looks like Tolvanen's shot would have gone well wide of the net but Vejmelka lunges back to his right and gets a piece of it with the tip of his glove and it angles into the net?

Oops while I watching the replay Utah scored on their 3rd SOG. Tie game.
 
Goal Visualizer on the NHL site is tough to get a read on the Schmaltz goal. Trapped deep, but still get back and have decent numbers, only for a pass to get through two Kraken to Schmaltz? I need to see the replay for it to make sense.
 
Yikes thats ugly...Dunn coasts right back into Grubauer's lap and doesnt cut off the passing lane with any degree of position or effort. Grubauer meanwhile is GLACIALLY slow reading the pass, actually drops to his left to cover the short side only to lunge back to his right well after the puck is already in the net. Just terrible.
 
Yikes thats ugly...Dunn coasts right back into Grubauer's lap and doesnt cut off the passing lane with any degree of position or effort. Grubauer meanwhile is GLACIALLY slow reading the pass, actually drops to his left to cover the short side only to lunge back to his right well after the puck is already in the net. Just terrible.

nothing gru can do about that goal if dunn accidentally defects it right to a utah player not even daccord would have done much about that.
 
nothing gru can do about that goal if dunn accidentally defects it right to a utah player not even daccord would have done much about that.
Hey cool guess my Ignore list was lost when they reverted to a backup from 2023. I'll fix that right after this message.

Grubauer's reaction was abysmal, your defending it shows you dont know what you are talking about. On a bang-bang rebound from Stephenson's shot to Tolvanen, Vejmelka is still able to lunge over and tip the puck with his glove. Grubauer is in another postal code when Schmaltz's shot goes into the net. If he makes a professional-tier reaction and gets across but it still goes in, fine. He didnt. He's cooked. Deal with it.

Now back to Ignore.
 
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Not every goal that goes into the net is while gru is in goal is his fault for heaving sakes its unfortunately Dunn didn't get a clean enough stick on that.
 
The Kraken D sure like to go on adventures on the high seas in the o-zone.
Not sure if you're referring to the Utah goal or not, it was at the expiration of a Seattle PP so they had 4 forwards on with Dunn and all 4 forwards were deep. Honestly the timing of Kakko's deflected pass couldnt have been worse if he was trying. They hustled back and recovered nicely, but for Dunn doing little to nothing to cut off any sort of lane.
 
Not sure if you're referring to the Utah goal or not, it was at the expiration of a Seattle PP so they had 4 forwards on with Dunn and all 4 forwards were deep. Honestly the timing of Kakko's deflected pass couldnt have been worse if he was trying. They hustled back and recovered nicely, but for Dunn doing little to nothing to cut off any sort of lane.

Nah in general. I'm not blaming Dunn for the goal against in the D zone, the play broke down before that when the D leaving the offensive blueline and pushing just as the penalty was coming to an end and Kakko threw a hail mary to the middle of the ice. No need to be so desperate for offense in that situation.

This last goal however, not a pinch but a patented Dunn turnover again. I'm starting to get a bit pissed off with them now.

e: *If* the Kraken want to be in the playoff picture next year it is exactly these lazy, weak needless goals against they need to eliminate.
 
Nah in general. I'm not blaming Dunn for the goal against in the D zone, the play broke down before that when the D leaving the offensive blueline and pushing just as the penalty was coming to an end and Kakko threw a hail mary to the middle of the ice. No need to be so desperate for offense in that situation.

This last goal however, not a pinch but a patented Dunn turnover again. I'm starting to get a bit pissed off with them now.

e: *If* the Kraken want to be in the playoff picture next year it is exactly these lazy, weak needless goals against they need to eliminate.

Team as a whole needs to play better offensively and defensively. What ever we do for next season if we replace gru or not i feel bad for who that goalie will be with the defense like this and the fans blaming said goalie on issues caused by the skaters.
 
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Team as a whole needs to play better offensively and defensively. What ever we do for next season if we replace gru or not i feel bad for who that goalie will be with the defense like this and the fans blaming said goalie on issues caused by the skaters.

This is true. The team can be very messy and all over the place. I still don't think Gru look right, he definitely looks better post-AHL but the game still looks too fast for him now. Maaaaybe ride him out next season rather than buy him out but... not an easy decision.
 
This is true. The team can be very messy and all over the place. I still don't think Gru look right, he definitely looks better post-AHL but the game still looks too fast for him now. Maaaaybe ride him out next season rather than buy him out but... not an easy decision.
I still don't know who I want to get bought out more. Bura or Gru?
 
This is true. The team can be very messy and all over the place. I still don't think Gru look right, he definitely looks better post-AHL but the game still looks too fast for him now. Maaaaybe ride him out next season rather than buy him out but... not an easy decision.

I'm still not convinced we'll save much of any cap space buying him out and replacing him to make it worth it. Cap is going up and so are players salaries even back up goalie costs will increase.

I still don't know who I want to get bought out more. Bura or Gru?

I rather buy out bura than gru honestly since we have way way better options within organization to replace him with. With gru well seattle might as well throw a dart on the dart board and hope which ever goalie that is can deal with the skaters being eh at times. I'm not holding my breath the replacement goalie is going to be any better. With the cap going up like i said it might not be worth trying to replace him and end up saving little cap space when you consider what the replacement goalie could cost. If we do replace gru we need to sign someone that can allow seattle to not over play and over use daccord.
 
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Will take that puck luck.

I like Montour more and more as this season has gone out. Dunn has been flat out bad since his return. Not sure if he is still playing injured but his D has been pretty bad. With Montour, he makes mistakes but there is no lack of effort from him and he is willing to do what it takes. I really like that.

The D as a unit just stinks. Too many mistakes. You give Bylsma next year only if you are not that serious about winning. Same as not buying out Gru or Bura.
 
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I still don't know who I want to get bought out more. Bura or Gru?

I'd trade Bura with retention rather than buy him out... is what I wanted to say. I didn't realize he has two years left, same for Gru. I checked it and the buyout hits are not too bad (compare with the never-ending pain if you bought out Stephenson - who thankfully has looked alive recently).
 
Will take that puck luck.

I like Montour more and more as this season has gone out. Dunn has been flat out bad since his return. Not sure if he is still playing injured but his D has been pretty bad. With Montour, he makes mistakes but there is no lack of effort from him and he is willing to do what it takes. I really like that.

The D as a unit just stinks. Too many mistakes. You give Bylsma next year only if you are not that serious about winning. Same as not buying out Gru or Bura.

Firing Bylsma after 1 year is not going to make the team any better since that coach replacement will have to deal with the same issues Bylsma is in now and the last thing Seattle should ever do is be a revolving door of always firing people always changing the system and never actually make progress cause things are always changing and i doubt any big FA would want to sign with seattle with a mess like that.

I'd trade Bura with retention rather than buy him out... is what I wanted to say. I didn't realize he has two years left, same for Gru. I checked it and the buyout hits are not too bad (compare with the never-ending pain if you bought out Stephenson - who thankfully has looked alive recently).

Seattle saves a lot more in cap space with buying out bura than we do by replacing gru since you need take account of how much the back up goalie is going to be especially with the cap going up.
 
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I'm still not convinced we'll save much of any cap space buying him out and replacing him to make it worth it. Cap is going up and so are players salaries even back up goalie costs will increase.



I rather buy out bura than gru honestly since we have way way better options within organization to replace him with. With gru well seattle might as well throw a dart on the dart board and hope which ever goalie that is can deal with the skaters being eh at times. I'm not holding my breath the replacement goalie is going to be any better.
A lot of next season would really be predicated on just how aggressive the team is and if they are doubling down on making the playoffs. The cap space, like you pointed out, is no problem IF we plan to not be competitive and just "meh" our way through the season. In that case, we can just keep both of them for next season. But if the team wants to seriously compete, you can't have either of those on the roster. Gru will likely continue costing us games and Bura is not really a passable 3rd line player, let alone top-6.

One big glaring issue for me, is just the lack of a 1st line. Makes sense with the lack of talent but Beniers looks like he has stagnated and while Kokko has been a big help, neither those two nor Schwartz has the skill to drive play on that first line. Would be nice to have atleast one dominant line which can be trusted to generate offense when needed. Right now, we are not even close to that.
 
A lot of next season would really be predicated on just how aggressive the team is and if they are doubling down on making the playoffs. The cap space, like you pointed out, is no problem IF we plan to not be competitive and just "meh" our way through the season. In that case, we can just keep both of them for next season. But if the team wants to seriously compete, you can't have either of those on the roster. Gru will likely continue costing us games and Bura is not really a passable 3rd line player, let alone top-6.

One big glaring issue for me, is just the lack of a 1st line. Makes sense with the lack of talent but Beniers looks like he has stagnated and while Kokko has been a big help, neither those two nor Schwartz has the skill to drive play on that first line. Would be nice to have atleast one dominant line which can be trusted to generate offense when needed. Right now, we are not even close to that.

The issue is the replacement goalie might not any better heck could be even worse than gru and as long as the skaters are playing like meh it doesn't matter who the goalies are in net. the issue is with the first line is getting the talent to want to come here and if the roster in terms on the ice continues to be a mess playing wise regardless of who's in the net those players will not want to come here... Its why doing a fire sale and get rid of everyone but like 5-6 players will do squat to get those payers to come here.
 

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