Traded Korpisalo (5 years/20M)

[swiftwin]

Talbot looked horrendous

If Talbot looked horrendous, then what did Sogaard look like?

 

[BondraTime]

Hopefully works out

 

[Sens Vader]

If Talbot looked horrendous, then what did Sogaard look like?

A promising prospect that we drafted

 

[Knave]

If Talbot looked horrendous, then what did Sogaard look like?

What is this argument? It's Dorion's job to have a Plan A and Plan B, not a Failure A and Failure B.

The Ottawa Senators didn't happen to Pierre Dorion. Pierre Dorion happened to the Ottawa Senators and its playoff hopes. It's his job to impact the team in a positive way. He has failed.

 

[yogibear]

Can he fail 100% of the times with the goalie??? A one point, he may just be lucky !!!

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

lol

 

[swiftwin]

A promising prospect that we drafted

Exactly.

 

[asd1]

If Talbot looked horrendous, then what did Sogaard look like?

Stop deflecting. Dorion has repeatedly brought in failures of goalies while overpaying. I hope Korpisalo works out, I like him. But this attempt to shift the narrative is actually pathetic.

 

[DJB]

We paid premium starter money to a guy who’s basically been a backup his whole career

Insane insane insane

 

[swiftwin]

Stop deflecting. Dorion has repeatedly brought in failures of goalies while overpaying. I hope Korpisalo works out, I like him. But this attempt to shift the narrative is actually pathetic.

I'm not shifting the narrative. I'm saying that just because he was unsuccessful in finding a good starting goalie doesn't mean he should stop trying to find a good starting goalie.

We paid premium starter money to a guy who’s basically been a backup his whole career

Insane insane insane

$4M is not premium starter money, especially not with the cap about to skyrocket.

 

[Knave]

$4M is not premium starter money, especially not with the cap about to skyrocket.

I'm just imagining this guy negotiating a mortgage, the bank offers a rate and he counters higher because he believes the BoC will raise rates further.


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[BondraTime]

If you’re spending 15 million more than any other goalie went for, I’d imagine you likely could have attracted quite a few of the other guys signing

 

[NyQuil]

$4M is not premium starter money, especially not with the cap about to skyrocket.

That's why all of those other goalies out there are getting paid with term in this off-season.

Everyone is opening their pocket books and blowing wads of cash at goalies for years and years.

Put another way, Korpisalo with his 221 games of NHL experience has earned the most expensive contract today in the entire NHL thus far.

 

[DJB]

I'm not shifting the narrative. I'm saying that just because he was unsuccessful in finding a good starting goalie doesn't mean he should stop trying to find a good starting goalie.


$4M is not premium starter money, especially not with the cap about to skyrocket.

The term makes it premium starter contract

 

[Gil Gunderson]

If you’re spending 15 million more than any other goalie for, I’d imagine you likely could have attracted quite a few of the other guys signing

No I need to imagine a hypethetical situation where Dorion’s hands are tied and he has to make the dumbest decision imaginable.

 

[Tap on the Ankle]

The term is so disappointing. Why not 2-3 years? Surely teams weren't lining up to lock this guy down for half a decade?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

The term is so disappointing. Why not 2-3 years? Surely teams weren't lining up to lock this guy down for half a decade?

This contract is shocking.

Forget everything else. Why in the hell did we have to give him so much term? It makes little sense.

 

[Xspyrit]

No thanks. We've been rolling with "nobody" for the past few seasons, and it hasn't worked out.

Dorion is like the average hockey fan that is lulled into name recognition. It's exactly why it was a surprise that Artem Zub was actually a good hockey player

What we need is nobodys who are good at hockey, because they are cheap and can support our young core adequately. But instead, Dorion goes out and burn a big part of the available cap space on a below average goalie

 

[OttawaSenators11]

If you’re spending 15 million more than any other goalie went for, I’d imagine you likely could have attracted quite a few of the other guys signing

Yeah only common sense

Factor in that it was reported that Korpisalo was on top of Dorions wish list before free agency even started suggests that they didn’t even try for anyone else Joonas was the guy no matter what.

Just goes to show you how out of touch this whole management group really is bunch of buffoons really…

 

[Big Muddy]

I really wouldn't have given him (or almost any goalie) a 5-year deal.

If you look at the other goaltender signings, the Korpisalo one is a conspicuous outlier.

I guess they are not convinced Sogaard is the guy, or Merilainen.

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[NyQuil]

If you look at the other goaltender signings, the Korpisalo one is a conspicuous outlier.

I'm pretty sure it's the only 5 year contract given to anyone today.

 

[Snowwy]

A promising prospect that we drafted

I assume you did not watch the games then.

 

[swiftwin]

I'm just imagining this guy negotiating a mortgage, the bank offers a rate and he counters higher because he believes the BoC will raise rates further.


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What does that have to do with the rates?

In an inflationary market, assets are king. Locking down a potential starting goalie for a longer term means you gain more value in the long run. If the cap goes up $3-4m per year for the next 5 years, that $4m is going to be a much smaller percentage of the total cap. If we have to buy him out for whatever reason, that percentage is going to be even smaller over an even longer horizon.

It's actually a pretty low risk contract.

 

[inthewings]

I bet Dorion is having a good laugh at Carolina today. Only extending Raanta for 1 year and Andersen for 2 when the cap is going up and they presumably could have had both for 5+ year terms. The Hurricane's are playing are playing checkers and Dorion is playing 3D mahjong.

 

[NyQuil]

In an inflationary market, assets are king. Locking down a potential starting goalie for a longer term means you gain more value in the long run. If the cap goes up $3-4m per year for the next 5 years, that $4m is going to be a much smaller percentage of the total cap. If we have to buy him out for whatever reason, that percentage is going to be even smaller over an even longer horizon.

It's actually a pretty low risk contract.

A goalie has no value.