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Way to much, hate if you like,but we needed him to take less to pay the others that need contracts.Really disappointed that he rather cash in then to keep the team competitive.
 
deaderhead28 said:
Way to much, hate if you like,but we needed him to take less to pay the others that need contracts.
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I'd rather see the team part away guys like Clifford or Nolan or Ehrhoff rather than a Kopitar. I'm sure the organization feels the same way as well among countless others. If you're looking to save a million on a contract, you start at the bottom, not at the top.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
I'd rather see the team part away guys like Clifford or Nolan or Ehrhoff rather than a Kopitar. I'm sure the organization feels the same way as well among countless others. If you're looking to save a million on a contract, you start at the bottom, not at the top.
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This is going to set the price for Stamkos and I believe he's going to get more than Kane and Toews.:nod:
 
deaderhead28 said:
This is going to set the price for Stamkos and I believe he's going to get more than Kane and Toews.:nod:
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I hope Stamkos hits the open market this year just to see an example of how much a top tier UFA could fetch from teams desperate to add a #1 center.

When was the last time a UFA of his caliber became available? Perhaps Ilya Kovalchuk in 2010?
 
I'm assuming this new Kopi deal means Lucic is gone.Still worried about TT deal and possible Scheen getting resigned at a lower amount.
 
If those are the terms, it's irresponsible to not trade Brown at this upcoming deadline.
 
Basilisk said:
If those are the terms, it's irresponsible to not trade Brown at this upcoming deadline.
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Brown's a part of the team this year. Nothing we could possibly move him for would make us better this year. I doubt we make any moves for 'the future' this year at all, if anything, we'll borrow from it some more and move prospects/picks to fortify our D.
 
deaderhead28 said:
I'm assuming this new Kopi deal means Lucic is gone.Still worried about TT deal and possible Scheen getting resigned at a lower amount.
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not necessarily, that's up to Lucic. I think given the number of contracts that DL has to address, he might opt to wait to the summer to see what the Salary CAp will be. Right now that Canadian Dollar dipping below 70 cents is an issue. That means the CAP may even drop below 71M

Right now, for next yr the Kings are at $64,266,894 with left to sign

Enroth (or another backup)

Lucic
LEwis

McNabb
McBain
Schenn

(Assuming Enroth is gone)

Lucic was traded because he wanted (and at 28, you can't blame him, his homerun deal before the next CBA alters it) 8 yrs at 7 per, as per the NESN, 'firm' on the term. And if DL won't give him that, Benning will , he has a shrine to Lucic in his basement, was upset when Bruins traded him to the Kings.

But if DL wants him, and manages to get him for say 6.7 x 7 (I can't see him signing for less than his current figure) , that still doesn't leave anything for the others or the contracts for the following year, with TT putting up rising numbers, might require 7M range.

NOt an easy job with the CAP being unstable going forward. He'll be working those numbers...
 
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Looch is going to be massive - he has improved as a lot with his positioning in-front of the net.
Ehroff, Enroth are gone
hopefully Green retires and joins the coaching team
McNabb and Schenn are gone unless they take a lowish amount
Lewis is gone unless he takes about the same pay
I think we need to trade Clifford to save 1m

Browns contract is not tradeable
 
I think there will be some major amendments to the CBA very soon. The Loonie is going to be at or below $.60 to the dollar this year and is probably going to stay that way through the decade, yes the dollar is stronger but not nearly strong enough to make up for the lost revenue from Canada, especially the TV deal which I believe was signed when the Loonie was $.80 or so to the dollar, so you're looking at a 25% loss. And then you throw in the losses at the gate, remember Canadian teams are taking in Canadian dollars but paying the players in US dollars. I fear that if nothing happens the relocation talk is going to return.

Keep a close eye on just how low oil falls, it has a big impact on the NHL cap.
 
Herby said:
I think there will be some major amendments to the CBA very soon. The Loonie is going to be at or below $.60 to the dollar this year and is probably going to stay that way through the decade, yes the dollar is stronger but not nearly strong enough to make up for the lost revenue from Canada, especially the TV deal which I believe was signed when the Loonie was $.80 or so to the dollar, so you're looking at a 25% loss. And then you throw in the losses at the gate, remember Canadian teams are taking in Canadian dollars but paying the players in US dollars. I fear that if nothing happens the relocation talk is going to return.

Keep a close eye on just how low oil falls, it has a big impact on the NHL cap.
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easy. loonie, as everything else in forex market, is a wall street manipulated high-stakes-casino driven currency, and oil + gas is "only" 6% of canadian gdp. a lot of traders are taking short bets against cad recently, but it should recover relatively soon, or at least stop bleeding. bad case scenario is a peg with usd, as it was back in the 60s, or as it was with eur and chf. loonie's effect on salary cap is overblown lately.
 
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deeshamrock said:
not necessarily, that's up to Lucic. I think given the number of contracts that DL has to address, he might opt to wait to the summer to see what the Salary CAp will be. Right now that Canadian Dollar dipping below 70 cents is an issue. That means the CAP may even drop below 71M

Right now, for next yr the Kings are at $64,266,894 with left to sign

Enroth (or another backup)

Lucic
LEwis

McNabb
McBain
Schenn

(Assuming Enroth is gone)

Lucic was traded because he wanted (and at 28, you can't blame him, his homerun deal before the next CBA alters it) 8 yrs at 7 per, as per the NESN, 'firm' on the term. And if DL won't give him that, Benning will , he has a shrine to Lucic in his basement, was upset when Bruins traded him to the Kings.

But if DL wants him, and manages to get him for say 6.7 x 7 (I can't see him signing for less than his current figure) , that still doesn't leave anything for the others or the contracts for the following year, with TT putting up rising numbers, might require 7M range.

NOt an easy job with the CAP being unstable going forward. He'll be working those numbers...
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That number includes Vinny, so given his agreement to retire it's more like $62.01M with 17 players.
 
IMO we should trade Brown for Crosby, both teams retain 100% salary. Before deadline.

Wish Kopi would have taken a deal to help future cap. He is getting a ton of money regardless. Part of me wants him to just get a monster salary with NTC that cripples the future of the team so he can enjoy his money while never getting to be on a competitive team again. A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER part of me wants that not to happen at all, and for everyone and everything to continue being awesome :D

Though it should basically go with out saying, BOTH that we couldn't not pay him/let him walk, and that its WAY easier to say "You should take less money" then it is to say "I will take less money"... and that is still true regardless of how rich or poor you are. In a weird way I think its easier to not worry about what you have/are getting/could get when you have nothing.
 
deeshamrock said:
not necessarily, that's up to Lucic. I think given the number of contracts that DL has to address, he might opt to wait to the summer to see what the Salary CAp will be. Right now that Canadian Dollar dipping below 70 cents is an issue. That means the CAP may even drop below 71M

Right now, for next yr the Kings are at $64,266,894 with left to sign

Enroth (or another backup)

Lucic
LEwis

McNabb
McBain
Schenn

(Assuming Enroth is gone)

Lucic was traded because he wanted (and at 28, you can't blame him, his homerun deal before the next CBA alters it) 8 yrs at 7 per, as per the NESN, 'firm' on the term. And if DL won't give him that, Benning will , he has a shrine to Lucic in his basement, was upset when Bruins traded him to the Kings.

But if DL wants him, and manages to get him for say 6.7 x 7 (I can't see him signing for less than his current figure) , that still doesn't leave anything for the others or the contracts for the following year, with TT putting up rising numbers, might require 7M range.

NOt an easy job with the CAP being unstable going forward. He'll be working those numbers...
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That 64 million number is not correct, since it included Vinny's salary for next season since he is signed, but has said he will retire, so you subtract his salary from that number. But that leaves you with about 9.4 million (if the CAP doesn't change) to sign 7 players. Not good.
 
Herby said:
I think there will be some major amendments to the CBA very soon. The Loonie is going to be at or below $.60 to the dollar this year and is probably going to stay that way through the decade, yes the dollar is stronger but not nearly strong enough to make up for the lost revenue from Canada, especially the TV deal which I believe was signed when the Loonie was $.80 or so to the dollar, so you're looking at a 25% loss. And then you throw in the losses at the gate, remember Canadian teams are taking in Canadian dollars but paying the players in US dollars. I fear that if nothing happens the relocation talk is going to return.

Keep a close eye on just how low oil falls, it has a big impact on the NHL cap.
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Very good points.
 
Basilisk said:
If those are the terms, it's irresponsible to not trade Brown at this upcoming deadline.
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Man, you must not be reading the posts here.

Once again, who is going take this massive contract off of the Kings' hands? Get real, people.
 
Herby said:
I think there will be some major amendments to the CBA very soon. The Loonie is going to be at or below $.60 to the dollar this year and is probably going to stay that way through the decade, yes the dollar is stronger but not nearly strong enough to make up for the lost revenue from Canada, especially the TV deal which I believe was signed when the Loonie was $.80 or so to the dollar, so you're looking at a 25% loss. And then you throw in the losses at the gate, remember Canadian teams are taking in Canadian dollars but paying the players in US dollars. I fear that if nothing happens the relocation talk is going to return.

Keep a close eye on just how low oil falls, it has a big impact on the NHL cap.
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What type of amendments?

Canandian teams will get financial assistance if need be. The cap is going to be stagnant or even go lower. Again, I believe the economic realities today do not support a contract with this type of AAV. Chicago is in real trouble with two of them.

I see no reason for teams that have relatively little salary dollars committed to relatively few players heading into next season to cut the Kings or Hawks a break.

I agree with you on the Canadian dollar possibly staying well below $0.80 for the rest of the decade. That is going to limit cap growth significantly.
 
mrkolice said:
one year old. everything is covered and insured. via http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1994005&page=4
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Everything is not covered and insured. That is a false statement. It would be up to each team to hedge their currency risks individually. I heard the interview with this guy in the link I posted earlier. He said most teams hedge a year ahead at most for salary purposes, and I doubt that they hedge for the amount of their entire revenue stream for a season.

The players were already getting 16% of their checks put into escrow, and it's going up to 20% with the very analyst you are quoting saying that there is little chance that they will see any of that money. What does that tell about the affect the drop in the Canadian dollar will have on hockey related revenue this season?

In any case hedging protects the team's cash, not HRR.
 
KINGS17 said:
Everything is not covered and insured. That is a false statement. It would be up to each team to hedge their currency risks individually. I heard the interview with this guy in the link I posted earlier. He said most teams hedge a year ahead at most for salary purposes, and I doubt that they hedge for the amount of their entire revenue stream for a season.

The players were already getting 16% of their checks put into escrow, and it's going up to 20% with the very analyst you are quoting saying that there is little chance that they will see any of that money. What does that tell about the affect the drop in the Canadian dollar will have on hockey related revenue this season?

In any case hedging protects the team's cash, not HRR.
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well, if it's hedged one year ahead the cap will not go down next season, right?
 
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