Proposal: Konecny for Vilardi+

[Arthur Morgan]

Brown did just retire, but the Kings have 10 tied up in goalies for 1 year until Quick's AAV drops. Adding a 5.5 cap hit will limit their abilities to fill holes. If the deal was cap neutral that would be different.


This just cracks me up. Hoping we are at a time when players going to the King's see an increase in scoring & this year wasn't an aberration.

Its the offseason cap doesnt matter. if an offer like that comes to you. you take it then figure it out after.

 

[kinghock]

Nylander + Rubins

For

2022 1st
Vilardi
Grans

Kings get an 80 point winger and a 24 year old big mobile LHD in Rubins who I think would flourish on the kings.

Leafs get a mid 1st a potential 2 or 3c in Vilardi and a very good Rhd prospect in grans to go with their other young group of defenders.

Rubins is Leafs 18th ranked prospect.

You can keep him. LA will keep Grans

Nylander for 2002 1st and Vilardi

 

[YP44]

Nylander + Rubins

For

2022 1st
Vilardi
Grans

Kings get an 80 point winger and a 24 year old big mobile LHD in Rubins who I think would flourish on the kings.

Leafs get a mid 1st a potential 2 or 3c in Vilardi and a very good Rhd prospect in grans to go with their other young group of defenders.

this would sure be a big swing.

 

[kilowatt]

Nylander + Rubins

For

2022 1st
Vilardi
Grans

Kings get an 80 point winger and a 24 year old big mobile LHD in Rubins who I think would flourish on the kings.

Leafs get a mid 1st a potential 2 or 3c in Vilardi and a very good Rhd prospect in grans to go with their other young group of defenders.

I’d do it. Nylander and Kempe on LA’s top line would be great.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I’d do it. Nylander and Kempe on LA’s top line would be great.

I agree and in the long run it would help the leafs as well.

 

[Starat327]

Rubins is Leafs 18th ranked prospect.

You can keep him. LA will keep Grans

Nylander for 2002 1st and Vilardi

I'm not sure the Leafs have much use for Denis Grebeshkov.

/s

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Rubins is Leafs 18th ranked prospect.

You can keep him. LA will keep Grans

Nylander for 2002 1st and Vilardi

Nope not nearly enough without Grans, hes the main part of the package. You don't get a young 80 point winger for a mid to late first and a struggling prospect.

 

[kinghock]

Nope not nearly enough without Grans, hes the main part of the package. You don't get a young 80 point winger for a mid to late first and a struggling prospect.

Ok, Forsberg signed as free agent is better anyway

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Ok, Forsberg signed as free agent is better anyway

If you get him sure, but thats a big if.

 

[Kurrilino]

Its the offseason cap doesnt matter. if an offer like that comes to you. you take it then figure it out after.

Well you take him then ?
Problem solved for everyone

I really have a hard time to understand why other fanbases constantly tell us how awesome this deal is.
Guys, just go for it and make an offer

 

[Neutrinos]

I don't think Vilardi moves the needle at this point

IMO, he's a secondary piece in a deal for someone like Konecny


Los Angeles <-- Konecny, Sanheim (extended)

Philly <-- Turcotte, Vilardi, Bjornfot

 

[Kurrilino]

Nylander + Rubins

For

2022 1st
Vilardi
Grans

Kings get an 80 point winger and a 24 year old big mobile LHD in Rubins who I think would flourish on the kings.

Leafs get a mid 1st a potential 2 or 3c in Vilardi and a very good Rhd prospect in grans to go with their other young group of defenders.

The Kings build for the future and Nylander is borderline usefull regarding to our time frame.

Grans is off the table in general and to make this trade to work, we have to give salary back

Final offer would be Iafallo + 1st for Nylander

 

[Kurrilino]

I don't think Vilardi moves the needle at this point

IMO, he's a secondary piece in a deal for someone like Konecny


Los Angeles <-- Konecny, Sanheim (extended)

Philly <-- Turcotte, Vilardi, Bjornfot

You get it slightly wrong

It's not Vilardi who isn't moving the needle, it's Konecny.
This has now repeated several times by more than 1 Kings fan, Konecny is not of any interest to the Kings.
Adding now Turcotte and Bjornfoot to the deal is borderline stand up comedy

If Sanheim is available, I would offer Iafallo in a 1vs1 hockey deal

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

The Kings build for the future and Nylander is borderline usefull regarding to our time frame.

Grans is off the table in general and to make this trade to work, we have to give salary back

Final offer would be Iafallo + 1st for Nylander

Iafallo a top 9 winger and a late first is terrible value. Your not getting a 80 point 25 year old winger for scraps lol.

 

[kinghock]

I don't think Vilardi moves the needle at this point

IMO, he's a secondary piece in a deal for someone like Konecny


Los Angeles <-- Konecny, Sanheim (extended)

Philly <-- Turcotte, Vilardi, Bjornfot

Konecny is very much needed in Philadelphia.

Kings can find somebody better to trade for.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

lol what???

Every player scores 10 goals less then before joining the Kings
He is a 10 goal scorer in L.A. and i'm not paying 5.5 mill for that (or 16 goals)

Arizona and Philly are lower scoring teams then LA

 

[bobbyb2009]

The Kings build for the future and Nylander is borderline usefull regarding to our time frame.

Grans is off the table in general and to make this trade to work, we have to give salary back

Final offer would be Iafallo + 1st for Nylander

Serious question:
How many RD propects from one team can be "off the table?"

Clarke, Grans, Faber, Spence are all off the table in trading for serious players? And then there is Durzi and Roy. It seems a strange response that comes up over and over on here. Only 2 of them can play with Doughty on your right side.

It doesn't mean you have to give them away, but to get players like Nylander or better, maybe none of them except maybe Clarke should be seen as untouchable? Most of these prospects look exciting but they haven't proved anything yet either. And it doesn't look like they are all going to have a chance to in your system.

 

[Kurrilino]

Serious question:
How many RD propects from one team can be "off the table?"

Clarke, Grans, Faber, Spence are all off the table in trading for serious players? And then there is Durzi and Roy. It seems a strange response that comes up over and over on here. Only 2 of them can play with Doughty on your right side.

It doesn't mean you have to give them away, but to get players like Nylander or better, maybe none of them except maybe Clarke should be seen as untouchable? Most of these prospects look exciting but they haven't proved anything yet either. And it doesn't look like they are all going to have a chance to in your system.

This is not my list

Off the table are Grans and Clarke and Roy

Doughty, Spence, Durzi and Walker are absolutely available
So if someone wants to trade for them, i am all ears.

We are looking for a scoring winger

Iafallo a top 9 winger and a late first is terrible value. Your not getting a 80 point 25 year old winger for scraps lol.

I'm good with no trade then

 

[kinghock]

Serious question:
How many RD propects from one team can be "off the table?"

Clarke, Grans, Faber, Spence are all off the table in trading for serious players? And then there is Durzi and Roy. It seems a strange response that comes up over and over on here. Only 2 of them can play with Doughty on your right side.

It doesn't mean you have to give them away, but to get players like Nylander or better, maybe none of them except maybe Clarke should be seen as untouchable? Most of these prospects look exciting but they haven't proved anything yet either. And it doesn't look like they are all going to have a chance to in your system.

In my view Clarke is off the table in trading

Faber and Spence are off the table in trading if it is not for elite goalie prospect (Knight, Askarov or Wallstedt)

Grans is available for equally talented young LD with size.

Durzi, Walker and Roy are very much available.

 

[bobbyb2009]

In my view Clarke is off the table in trading

Faber and Spence are off the table in trading if it is not for elite goalie prospect (Knight, Askarov or Wallstedt)

Grans is available for equally talented young LD with size.

Durzi, Walker and Roy are very much available.

So we agree, all of them are available for the right deal. You are just defining the deal. I am sure people can have positions on a proposal, but to say they are off the table is nonsensical.

This is what I would have thought.

Traiding Clarke would have to be for an exceptional offer or should be considered off the table (the old OVERPAYMENT lol). But he shouldn't be considered off the table either. Would you trade him for #1 overall this year and next year? I would say yes. Would you trade him for, let's say, Cale Makar, Adam Fox or Quinn Hughes- Yes. So even he isn't off the table, but you will not get those kind of offers (lol), so I get why he should be thought of as such.

 

[kinghock]

So we agree, all of them are available for the right deal. You are just defining the deal. I am sure people can have positions on a proposal, but to say they are off the table is nonsensical.

This is what I would have thought.

Traiding Clarke would have to be for an exceptional offer or should be considered off the table (the old OVERPAYMENT lol). But he shouldn't be considered off the table either. Would you trade him for #1 overall this year and next year? I would say yes. Would you trade him for, let's say, Cale Makar, Adam Fox or Quinn Hughes- Yes. So even he isn't off the table, but you will not get those kind of offers (lol), so I get why he should be thought of as such.

I would trade him for #1 overall next year and for Cale Makar for sure

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Well you take him then ?
Problem solved for everyone

I really have a hard time to understand why other fanbases constantly tell us how awesome this deal is.
Guys, just go for it and make an offer

I gladly would, not sure why that first line has a question mark

I really have a hard time understanding how you are so against it. and the thread has the offer I'm on the side of it being a good deal and your on the other side pretty simple really.
the reason why other fan bases keep telling you how awesome the deal is because it's an awesome deal not our fault your homerism is blinding you.

and make an offer on what? the thread isn't about what other franchises can offer for Konecny but if this is the asking price I'd gladly find a comparable and take him before you regret saying no

 

[YP44]

I hope this is an active off season for trading!

 

[bsu]

In my view Clarke is off the table in trading

Faber and Spence are off the table in trading if it is not for elite goalie prospect (Knight, Askarov or Wallstedt)

Grans is available for equally talented young LD with size.

Durzi, Walker and Roy are very much available.

Thank you Rob Blake.

 

[YP44]

Thank you Rob Blake.

I mean he did say "in my view". He did not say this is what it is.