Post-Game Talk: Kittens tamed Jets win 6-4

[10Ducky10]

That's odd because when Buff was doing it everyone was gaga about it. Aggressive teams take penalties. I'd rather stay aggressive and improve our pk.

The penalties I don't like are lazy ones and I don't think that's a problem with Dillon.

I'll add that last year we had one of the last penalized Jets 2.0 teams and I don't think many of us enjoyed the way we were bent over most nights.

Some posters judge a player after one or two games.
Anyone that looked up Dillon's stats prior to coming here would know he takes a lot of penalties...opposing players have to be aware of when he is on the ice.

 

[surixon]

What if PLD keeps developing to become a legit 1C? What if Perfetti develops into a legit top 6 C?

Those who think we just have a “three year window” just seem to dismiss our prospect pool and don’t seem to comprehend that the team doesn’t implode just because a couple of star players will get raises.

Now, absolutely Schiefele is a very important part of this team. Three years from now? Probably still important but that is predicated on where our other young centres have developed.

We don’t have to prognosticate about it but to say it is grim and not debatable is absurd.

I agree with this. I've long held the belief that if Cole develops as most here hope we can move Scheifele to RW on Perfetti's line where Mark can focus more on his offense and on being the triggerman from the wing.

Ehlers Perfetti Scheifele
Conner Dubois xxxx

That is the making of a nice to 6.

 

[surixon]

This is a terrible take.

First of all, if Ehlers is that fragile I'm worried. Second of all, if you don't think that Maurice respects Ehlers then you're out to lunch. You need more than one scoring line and I'd say that Maurice's usage of him shows ultimate respect. You need play drivers on all your lines and he's figured out that 55 and 27 do that in an elite way. Why would you put them on the same line? Same goes for pp.

Finally, I don't think people realize how much energy it takes to play the way Ehlers plays. Do you ever see him static when he's on the ice? He's carrying the mail up the ice almost every time he's on, and even in the ozone his motor is non stop. His playstyle can only be effective when he has the energy, and its logical to conclude a few less minutes a game makes him better.

The lengths people will go here to create drama is astounding. There's some pretty basic truths about sport that are consistently ignored, likely due to not having played. I hate to pull that out but it's true.

This is a good point, I think k the same applies to Mark who's game gets lethargic when he is up.ovwr 20 minutes. With Dubois and Lowry capable of playing a good amount of minutes there is no reason to overplay Mark and Blake. I hope to see some more balanced ice times when both are back.

 

[Derfel]

I


I have said this before and got lambasted but the Jets should trade Scheif and they shoukd be able to get a top dman in return??

You probably shouldn't say it then. It's not a very good idea.

 

[Babooch]

It is interesting how people focus on the past but fail to see the future when it is emerging before us. The past 2 games are a small sample size of a world without him. It will be just fine provided his value can be used to get a top dman.

a new top D man would pull his hair out with how the Jets top line ignores team D responsibilities, with all their fly-by pokechecks. Fix that before trading away a 90 pt guy at 6M, tell him he only needs 70 pts and better 5x5 stats.

 

[Babooch]

Apparently Jets can play well and have some success with 55 and 26 at zero minutes per game. If 26 comes back at 20+ minutes a game PO MO is a certified idiot, or more likely just keeping the guy who runs the room on his side.

 

[raideralex99]

Apparently Jets can play well and have some success with 55 and 26 at zero minutes per game. If 26 comes back at 20+ minutes a game PO MO is a certified idiot, or more likely just keeping the guy who runs the room on his side.

Exactly no forwards on this team should be playing 20+ minutes with the talent the Jets have up front.
It's funny how it takes injuries to prove Maurice is stubborn and he refuses to change in the meantime some board members actually know what they are talking about and could out coached Maurice.

 

[Jet]

This is a good point, I think k the same applies to Mark who's game gets lethargic when he is up.ovwr 20 minutes. With Dubois and Lowry capable of playing a good amount of minutes there is no reason to overplay Mark and Blake. I hope to see some more balanced ice times when both are back.

Absolutely. Scheifele doesn't skate as much as nik but he works the boards a lot which is really tiring as well.

Once we can ice 4 lines again, there's no reason why we can't take 5 minutes from the top line and give it to the third and 4th

 

[bustamente]

You know that once Scheifele and Wheeler are back they will be on the ice 20-25 minutes a game, small print on their contracts stipulates this

 

[Klondiker98]

I agree with this. I've long held the belief that if Cole develops as most here hope we can move Scheifele to RW on Perfetti's line where Mark can focus more on his offense and on being the triggerman from the wing.

Ehlers Perfetti Scheifele
Conner Dubois xxxx

That is the making of a nice to 6.

With Coles hands ,I would flip the two to play on their off wing for one timers.
Scheifele and Ehlers are skilled enough to accept passes on their backhand at high speed .

 

[Klondiker98]

I agree with this. I've long held the belief that if Cole develops as most here hope we can move Scheifele to RW on Perfetti's line where Mark can focus more on his offense and on being the triggerman from the wing.

Ehlers Perfetti Scheifele
Conner Dubois xxxx

That is the making of a nice to 6.

With Coles hands ,I would flip the two to play on their off wing for one timers.
Scheifele and Ehlers are skilled enough to accept passes on their backhand at high speed .

 

[Benjamin Doveridge]

Great let's see what his value is. Sell high not when his value is low. This team needs a top dman.
What have the Jets acheived with him?

You can’t be serious?!?! Scheifele’s cap hit alone is a massive bargain. Getting rid of him for a top dman is ludicrous. You want to make the Jets thinner down the middle,

 

[Potrzebie]

Nothing like a win to kill the poster turn out on a Jets PGT these days. Where is everyone?

I was thinking the same thing and then remembered I finally started using the ignore function.

 

[Benjamin Doveridge]

PoMo is not going to change. 55 and 26 will play big minutes again. The Jets can actually run 4 balanced lines with their return. Upon their return we will go back to 55 and 26 being over played and 3 lines plus an energy line.

 

[Potrzebie]

I guess after last night the Pens can dump Crosby, Malkin and Letang.

 

[KingBogo]

It is interesting how people focus on the past but fail to see the future when it is emerging before us. The past 2 games are a small sample size of a world without him. It will be just fine provided his value can be used to get a top dman.

I’m just glad you are nowhere near the decision making levers of the organization. Good idea to make a franchise changing move after 2 games against weak competition with less forethought put into deciding your pizza toppings.

 

[Adam da bomb]

The problem with wheeler and kfc on the same line is that kfc is flying out there and looks capable of lots of minutes, wheeler is not.

 

[Atoyot]

Some posters judge a player after one or two games.
Anyone that looked up Dillon's stats prior to coming here would know he takes a lot of penalties...opposing players have to be aware of when he is on the ice.

This is such a strange narrative. Dillon shoves a player away from the play and takes a penalty and you think that because he gave that player a little shove he's thinking "oh boy better clean up and play less aggressive"? No, in reality players will play more aggressive when Dillon's on the ice because they know they can exploit him for power plays.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

This is such a strange narrative. Dillon shoves a player away from the play and takes a penalty and you think that because he gave that player a little shove he's thinking "oh boy better clean up and play less aggressive"? No, in reality players will play more aggressive when Dillon's on the ice because they know they can exploit him for power plays.

You are always aware of anyone that has to the ability to destroy you on the ice. Even the guys at this level think about it

 

[GaryPoppins]

This is a terrible take.

First of all, if Ehlers is that fragile I'm worried. Second of all, if you don't think that Maurice respects Ehlers then you're out to lunch. You need more than one scoring line and I'd say that Maurice's usage of him shows ultimate respect. You need play drivers on all your lines and he's figured out that 55 and 27 do that in an elite way. Why would you put them on the same line? Same goes for pp.

Finally, I don't think people realize how much energy it takes to play the way Ehlers plays. Do you ever see him static when he's on the ice? He's carrying the mail up the ice almost every time he's on, and even in the ozone his motor is non stop. His playstyle can only be effective when he has the energy, and its logical to conclude a few less minutes a game makes him better.

The lengths people will go here to create drama is astounding. There's some pretty basic truths about sport that are consistently ignored, likely due to not having played. I hate to pull that out but it's true.

Creating drama? Lol. Okay

 

[Atoyot]

You are always aware of anyone that has to the ability to destroy you on the ice. Even the guys at this level think about it

So the logic here is that he needs to take stupid penalties that hurt the team to cement that? The tiny shove that caused a goal against puts more fear into opposing players than a big clean hit? Can guarantee the player who hit Pionk will take that exchange 100% of the time. Can guarantee some players are specifically looking for it when Dillon's on the ice.

 

[The Blue Baron]

The double dip win occurs as predicted! Two fun games last night and what a night it was.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

The future for this team without Scheifele is grimm, not even debatable. This is like the "look we always win without Enstrom" argument on steroids.

Why is it grim if he jets get value in return? He is not McDavid or McKinnon. I would sooner lose him then Ehlers,PLD or Connor but on this board thinking outside the box gets you lambasted not saying you are doing as you are at least bein civil.
Another poster mentioned giving him fewer minute I guess that sis another option but it will never happen under Maurice.

 

[gojetsgo]

Why is it grim if he jets get value in return? He is not McDavid or McKinnon. I would sooner lose him then Ehlers,PLD or Connor but on this board thinking outside the box gets you lambasted not saying you are doing as you are at least bein civil.
Another poster mentioned giving him fewer minute I guess that sis another option but it will never happen under Maurice.

he's a ppg #1 center getting paid far less then what he's worth, were never going to get enough value for that. A coaching change is far more likely then a scheifele trade

 

[Adam da bomb]

This is such a strange narrative. Dillon shoves a player away from the play and takes a penalty and you think that because he gave that player a little shove he's thinking "oh boy better clean up and play less aggressive"? No, in reality players will play more aggressive when Dillon's on the ice because they know they can exploit him for power plays.

Especially in Winnipeg. But, one assumes you can’t give a guy a million penalties a game so if you are always playing rough the refs will adjust and let you get away with it. Many a team and player have benefitted from this. Like Boston.