Kitchener Rangers 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III

[East Avenue Bully]

I hope the cost won't be too high (not Headrick)

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

Well, we do still need a second line LW.

I think Musty is a LWinger..

 

[Gondrex]

For what it’s worth. McKenzie said today on this topic- We’re always looking for ways to improve,” he added. “The best way to put it is that we’d like to do it without sacrificing the future or significantly hurting our draft pick cupboard.”
Believe that scoops account put the pinelli thing out there- same account who’s tweeted out a fire sale was coming

Now if we could only ask Kamil Bednarik to drop in we could avoid that "hurting our draft pick cupboard” thing ....... dreaming of course.

 

[Jives]

Now if we could only ask Kamil Bednarik to drop in we could avoid that "hurting our draft pick cupboard” thing ....... dreaming of course.

Humphreys had played with Mooney, Bednarik and Fortescue. Just bring the whole crew over.

 

[OMG67]

Well, we do still need a second line LW.

No disrespect meant but if Pinelli is your 2nd LW after scoring 48 last year, Swick must be a hell of a lot more impactful than I thought!

At 1.4 ppg this season, Pinelli would easily be your leading scorer.

At least keep it real. I understand the fan base isn’t all that interested in buying and I can get on board with that but diminishing the prospective players they could add in an effort to justify not buying is kinda sad really, no?

Pinelli sits 3 points behind the Rangers current points leader and because of the WJHC, Pinelli has missed 11 games. He’d easily be the most impactful offensive forward. And, he plays in Dave Cameron’s defensive structured system so it is not like you are acquiring an inflated scoring player from Saginaw.

Market value, he is easily worth Headrick. How many picks added? I don’t know. But, keep in mind, it is fine to say the team doesn’t’ want to pay the market price for an elite forward. That’s ok. Not every team is going to do it using their 1st round pick. Boyd has not done it in Ottawa either and he’s had loads of opportunities to add elite players using 1st rounders so I 100% get the sentiment regarding trading high ceiling rookies.

 

[EvenSteven]

No disrespect meant but if Pinelli is your 2nd LW after scoring 48 last year, Swick must be a hell of a lot more impactful than I thought!

At 1.4 ppg this season, Pinelli would easily be your leading scorer.

At least keep it real. I understand the fan base isn’t all that interested in buying and I can get on board with that but diminishing the prospective players they could add in an effort to justify not buying is kinda sad really, no?

Pinelli sits 3 points behind the Rangers current points leader and because of the WJHC, Pinelli has missed 11 games. He’d easily be the most impactful offensive forward. And, he plays in Dave Cameron’s defensive structured system so it is not like you are acquiring an inflated scoring player from Saginaw.

Not saying Pinelli is a second line winger. I’m saying as our team stands now our first line is our first line and we would like to have a left winger to complete the top six. Obviously, if Pinelli were acquired, he’d bump Swick off the first line.

Just like with Humphreys coming in now. As I pencil out our lineup, I have him bumping Romano out of a top six C role.

But that’s just me. The coaching staff may see things different.

 

[Jives]

No disrespect meant but if Pinelli is your 2nd LW after scoring 48 last year, Swick must be a hell of a lot more impactful than I thought!

At 1.4 ppg this season, Pinelli would easily be your leading scorer.

At least keep it real. I understand the fan base isn’t all that interested in buying and I can get on board with that but diminishing the prospective players they could add in an effort to justify not buying is kinda sad really, no?

Pretty sure the comment was just us needing another player to complete the top 6 and LW is the spot available. The top 2 lines in KIT get exact same ice time. Pinelli would obviously see more PP time and last 5 minutes of the game time.

 

[Jives]

Not saying Pinelli is a second line winger. I’m saying as our team stands now our first line is our first line and we would like to have a left winger to complete the top six. Obviously, if Pinelli were acquired, he’d bump Swick off the first line.

Just like with Humphreys coming in now. As I pencil out our lineup, I have him bumping Romano out of a top six C role.

But that’s just me. The coaching staff may see things different.

I don’t think Pinelli would bump Swick. I think they would go with a 1A/ 1B line.

The Swick - Ellinas - Pridham line doesn’t need to be changed.

Pinelli - Romano / Humphrey- Missle would be a solid line.

I think Humphrey starts on the 3rd line to start but that’s just my guess.

 

[OMG67]

I get it guys. I do. That’s why I said no disrespect meant. But, if Kitchener is serious, and they may very well not be serious about this season, adding Pinelli, especially considering they already know the family and his brother was the captain and he is the captain in Ottawa, Headrick is the fair market value.

 

[East Avenue Bully]

I think Humphrey starts on the 3rd line to start but that’s just my guess.

Agreed.

Pridham started off on the 3rd line when he came over. Quickly he went up to 2nd and now he's solidly on the top line.

 

[OMG67]

And, like I said, Boyd has not moved a 1st round pick to his own detriment. He was unwilling to move MEws to acquire Shane Wright. Add Shane Wright to the additions of Mintyukov and Logan Morrison, I think that playoff result would have been different. But, that’s why teams roll the dice now and then. And, they “sometimes” make hard sacrifices.

 

[East Avenue Bully]

I get it guys. I do. That’s why I said no disrespect meant. But, if Kitchener is serious, and they may very well not be serious about this season, adding Pinelli, especially considering they already know the family and his brother was the captain and he is the captain in Ottawa, Headrick is the fair market value.

No doubt Pinelli is a quality fwd.

The question is, would he be enough to beat London in a 7 game series.

By himself, probably not. Toss in Humphrey, Valentini, Sale, and who knows what else MM has up his sleeve, dunno.

 

[Jives]

I get it guys. I do. That’s why I said no disrespect meant. But, if Kitchener is serious, and they may very well not be serious about this season, adding Pinelli, especially considering they already know the family and his brother was the captain and he is the captain in Ottawa, Headrick is the fair market value.

Headrick plus 2nd and 3rd is probably fair value. That doesn’t mean MM or fans of the Rangers want to pay that. I know I say hard pass on that unless MM can get 1 or 2 more big names for free (Sale, already drafted import, Mooney, Valentini, etc).

London just is too good. Adding Humphrey though has made me ok with a stand pat. I was not happy with the team not selling before. He is a very nice free addition that would have cost us a bunch of picks. If stays for OA year (I’d say over 50% chance of that happening) he fits in perfectly with mem cup year and fills a spot that was going to be needed to be filled for sure (OA spot).

 

[OMG67]

No doubt Pinelli is a quality fwd.

The question is, would he be enough to beat London in a 7 game series.

By himself, probably not. Toss in Humphrey, Valentini, Sale, and who knows what else MM has up his sleeve, dunno.

I think if the managements hesitation is aligning with London’s competitive and non-competitive years, then they have to be committed to waiving the white flag every 2 out of 3 seasons. That means no matter where they are in the standings, they have to sell graduating players. I don’t think the management is in the same mental mode of the London blocker to play that game.

London has a really good 17 year old goalie with no OHL experience and an OA goalie that has lost his net for 100+ point teams two seasons in a row in the WHL playoffs. I don’t think London is as sturdy as many think. They do have gaps that can be exploited. If they do end up with average goaltending and Parsons continues his current path, I wouldn’t’ count out the Rangers with a few additions.

 

[East Avenue Bully]

I think MM is thinking at least part of what you are thinking OMG67. Plus he has visibility to stuff we don't (Humphreys moving from Michigan to the Rangers as a NCAA commit that was drafted in the 11th rd due to said commit, maybe Sale and/or Valentini and maybe more stuff).

We're gun shy due to two MM buy years that resulted in a 2rd exits as low West conference seeds that cost us dearly in our pick cupboard.

 

[OMG67]

I think MM is thinking at least part of what you are thinking OMG67. Plus he has visibility to stuff we don't (Humphreys moving from Michigan to the Rangers as a NCAA commit that was drafted in the 11th rd due to said commit, maybe Sale and/or Valentini and maybe more stuff).

We're gun shy due to two MM buy years that resulted in a 2rd exits as low West conference seeds that cost us dearly in our pick cupboard.

Understood but you upset Windsor. Kitchener has a solid team and by team I mean team. It isn’t’ a collection of really good hockey players. I wouldn’t add much if you add. Snag a scorer to help the PP and maybe a middle d-Man and make a roll of it.

Ultimately, you need to score a bit more and you are fine.

 

[Jives]

I think if the managements hesitation is aligning with London’s competitive and non-competitive years, then they have to be committed to waiving the white flag every 2 out of 3 seasons. That means no matter where they are in the standings, they have to sell graduating players. I don’t think the management is in the same mental mode of the London blocker to play that game.

London has a really good 17 year old goalie with no OHL experience and an OA goalie that has lost his net for 100+ point teams two seasons in a row in the WHL playoffs. I don’t think London is as sturdy as many think. They do have gaps that can be exploited. If they do end up with average goaltending and Parsons continues his current path, I wouldn’t’ count out the Rangers with a few additions.

They have 14 or something like that NHL drafted players (so 18 and 19 years old). Our strongest years are 2007/2008 (so 16 and 17 year olds). This year was supposed to be a sell off (see Rehkopf trade). We rely on 1 player very heavily that is playing imo too many games. I think MM is ok with his roster and see what happens in the playoffs (can that 1 player steal a series againest the best team in the CHL) and still keep the 2007/2008 group in tact for a very strong team in 2 years.

 

[EvenSteven]

We rely on 1 player very heavily that is playing imo too many games.

Parsons seems to be doing very well with the heavy workload. But, I remember the injury from a couple years ago all too well and worry a little whenever he goes back to back. MM may worry a little too.

Schaubel is under 10 games played thus far and therefore, not on an A card yet. He’s pretty good, but not who I want to see having to assume the starters role should there be an injury to Parsons. He has a good record but bad numbers and he’s playing mostly the lesser teams when he starts.

If I’m MM, and I see a deep playoff run in this post season, at the 11th hour on deadline day I scoop up an older goalie with experience, on the very cheap, to back up Parsons and have Schaubel finish the season at JrB.

Schaubel will still get his minutes and we’ll have a decent backup to spell Parsons down the stretch and take over the net if need be.

 

[frontsfan67]

I think Musty is a LWinger..

Thought you guys were buying, no?

 

[frontsfan67]

No disrespect meant but if Pinelli is your 2nd LW after scoring 48 last year, Swick must be a hell of a lot more impactful than I thought!

At 1.4 ppg this season, Pinelli would easily be your leading scorer.

At least keep it real. I understand the fan base isn’t all that interested in buying and I can get on board with that but diminishing the prospective players they could add in an effort to justify not buying is kinda sad really, no?

Pinelli sits 3 points behind the Rangers current points leader and because of the WJHC, Pinelli has missed 11 games. He’d easily be the most impactful offensive forward. And, he plays in Dave Cameron’s defensive structured system so it is not like you are acquiring an inflated scoring player from Saginaw.

Market value, he is easily worth Headrick. How many picks added? I don’t know. But, keep in mind, it is fine to say the team doesn’t’ want to pay the market price for an elite forward. That’s ok. Not every team is going to do it using their 1st round pick. Boyd has not done it in Ottawa either and he’s had loads of opportunities to add elite players using 1st rounders so I 100% get the sentiment regarding trading high ceiling rookies.

Holy crap I’d love to see the comment section of the 67’s thread after acquiring a 5’7 150lb forward

 

[OMG67]

Holy crap I’d love to see the comment section of the 67’s thread after acquiring a 5’7 150lb forward

That would go away quick if there were fortunate enough to see him play in a Barberpole jersey!

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

Thought you guys were buying, no?

Hard to tell right now. I think in a perfect world we sell Musty and then buy younger pieces that will be back next year. But we all know the world isn’t perfect…..IMHO, Musty has played 11 really good games for us this season. He won’t be back next season. But he is so offensively gifted and when he is on top of his game it’s like watching a man play against boys. A team that is struggling to score could use his 2 pts/game.

 

[Ward Cornell]

Holy crap I’d love to see the comment section of the 67’s thread after acquiring a 5’7 150lb forward

A good indicator on a players size are parents and older siblings sizes. Headricks older brothers are 6'-0"+.
Having said that, I'm all for seeing Headrcks reach 6'-0" in Ranger blue!

 

[bobber]

Holy crap I’d love to see the comment section of the 67’s thread after acquiring a 5’7 150lb forward

They already have a player like that in Panelli.

 

[frontsfan67]

A good indicator on a players size are parents and older siblings sizes. Headricks older brothers are 6'-0"+.
Having said that, I'm all for seeing Headrcks reach 6'-0" in Ranger blue!

I know that about Headrick but I’m wondering how many Ottawa fans would know that. Beast would lose his mind lol

They already have a player like that in Panelli.

Pinelli 5’9 168 so still quite a bit bigger