Yes, would need more. Hunter and George Burnett have done deals before and have a good relationship. It will be win-win, if it happens.
Kitchener Rangers 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II
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Makes no sense that part of the Allen trade was a pre payment for Luchenko. No need to do that. Why? To lock up Luchenko to London to be announced after the WJC? These (handshake) WJC deals happen every year without pre payments. That Allen cost probably recognizes that there’s a decent chance that he could play an OA season in London next year.
Using the Owen Beck trade from Missy to the Petes as a comparable, 1.5 years of Luchenko should cost in the ballpark of: Hawery, another young prospect, 2x2nds, 3rd, 4th.
London only has one 2nd left. Gonna be tough to match that price unless more 3rds are involved or another body.

Using the Owen Beck trade from Missy to the Petes as a comparable, 1.5 years of Luchenko should cost in the ballpark of: Hawery, another young prospect, 2x2nds, 3rd, 4th.
London only has one 2nd left. Gonna be tough to match that price unless more 3rds are involved or another body.

To be fair, that is the actual price for a defenceman that the Knights paid. Look at the Jorian Donovan trade last year very similar in terms of pics just the Donovan trade was one more pick than the Allen trade.
However, I’m hoping you’re right and that London is looking at Luchanko. Semenov, Gerber, Bidgood, Read and Hawery could all be in play…. But I think the Knights are done.
I would compare the Luchanko trade to Owen Beck. That trade netted the Aiden Young, two 2nd round picks and a 3rd round pick.
Luchenko likely not back next year, Philly kept him for a while this year. Cam Allen may also not be back. Both could be 1/2 season rentals. Didn’t mean to hijack the Rangers thread...was just responding to possible return for Andonovski.
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Luchanko, is not going to London, team offense not needed in London. With the Knight's two latest acquisition on defense with now the speed of both Allen and Fimis, London rectified their only true weakness, the slow foot on the backend is no more. London will be able to retrieve the puck and their own zone faster than it had been before. This means that they will have more control over the puck. Since London has signed Montgomery, getting Luchanko from Guelph would be an overkill and disruptive, remembering Windsor 3 years ago. The Rangers are still a formidable team as they are now, they can do damages to a non-prepared team, best they work for the future, any move should remain in to that objective
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We’ll see on next year on these two. Surely there would be conditionals involved in any Luchenko deal - wherever he’s dealt to.
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Getting to that time of year again, and personally I think they should essentially stand pat, unless someone wants out for whatever reason, or an elite player wants to play for Kitchener and doesn't cost much. It seems like the team has good chemistry and enjoys playing with/for each other. They have one of the best goalies in the league that can steal any given game, and a solid young backup (reminiscent of 2022). Perhaps one of the best coaches in the league seeing how this team always seems to outperform their expectations.
You never know what's going to happen in the playoffs. Kitchener has a decent mix of skill and toughness that could get them past a team like London, especially 3 rounds in (if we're lucky) and both teams are beaten up. Look back to 2022 when they had 2 of the better goalies in the league and a plucky bunch of resilient players. Managed to upset the heavily favoured Knights in 7 games.
I get that they're young and looking towards the future but when things are going right sometimes you have to trust that. I had the same feeling but it feels like the moves MM made to add negatively affected the team. I could be wrong but in my eyes Sale never looked like he wanted to play here, and the 'vibe' changed around the team after the deadline. Regardless, unless there's an offer MM can't really refuse, why throw away a great start with even solid metrics for something that might happen 2-3 years from now. Best thing they can do is create a winning culture that 'flyer pick' players want to come to and it doesn't matter how many draft picks you have.
You never know what's going to happen in the playoffs. Kitchener has a decent mix of skill and toughness that could get them past a team like London, especially 3 rounds in (if we're lucky) and both teams are beaten up. Look back to 2022 when they had 2 of the better goalies in the league and a plucky bunch of resilient players. Managed to upset the heavily favoured Knights in 7 games.
I get that they're young and looking towards the future but when things are going right sometimes you have to trust that. I had the same feeling but it feels like the moves MM made to add negatively affected the team. I could be wrong but in my eyes Sale never looked like he wanted to play here, and the 'vibe' changed around the team after the deadline. Regardless, unless there's an offer MM can't really refuse, why throw away a great start with even solid metrics for something that might happen 2-3 years from now. Best thing they can do is create a winning culture that 'flyer pick' players want to come to and it doesn't matter how many draft picks you have.
I don't quite agree with the conclusion but this is really well argued.
I guess the way I see it is that the Rangers are still behind where they should be based on the mismanagement of the 22-23 season. (I didn't hate the moves last year, even though they didn't turn out.) I hate the idea of disarming and I agree it doesn't send the best message to the players. But the current pick cupboard isn't going to cut it, even with prices coming down a bit with the influx of USHL and BCHL talent, and even with the Rangers a bit better positioned than most teams to take advantage of that with the number of "flyers" they've taken in past drafts.
The 07-08 Spitfires traded away talent, flamed out in the playoffs, then came back and won back-to-back Memorial Cups. Do I think this team is the 07-08 Spitfires? They don't have a Taylor Hall or a Ryan Ellis but they have a deep roster of young talent and they're in a similar position: inexperienced and behind a powerhouse in the standings, but ahead of where they were expected to be and very well coached. That's the model I say we try to follow.
I would take the Allen return for Ando with a couple conditionals to protect the OA year. (IIRC Hunter doesn't really do conditionals, smartly, presumably because he doesn't want to tie up his picks for a year.) I'd take a couple seconds each for Swick and Misaljevic as well.
Parsons I'm coming around on keeping, I think ES and others are probably right that he's worth more to this team than he'd fetch in trade. Perhaps someone more familiar with the east can speak to whether any of those contenders need a goalie. Brantford and Brampton are obviously set with Leenders and Ivankovic.
London fans, how competitive do you expect your team to be next year?
