Kitchener Rangers 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 3)

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Re Sale next year, I suspect there's a very good chance he's back. Rehkopf as a linemate and fellow Kraken pick, Jussi as a coach and a competitive team. Yes, there's a chance he'll start in the AHL, but the track record shows the players tend to do better with playing in junior with top minutes.
They’ll have to sell off, though.
 

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Some notes I found on Savard.
- played top 4 minutes this year
- good edges
-blocks shot
- hits
-one of two players with a positive +\-
-knows when to jump in the rush
-not afraid to step up for teammates and drop the gloves
-from Montreal
-6,2 180

“Savard activates from the point, jumping into space after beating defenders with lateral skating. He steps into pressure before cutting back, creating the escape route. He slows down to bait the forecheck before hitting the gas, one of many ways he deceives. There's the edge work, how he evades opponents with spins, turns, and cuts”
Seems like a solid addition.
 
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Salè
He’s an exceptionally skilled passer who can feather the puck through layers to connect with his linemates with perfect touch. As a shooter, Šalé can fire the puck in-stride, with perfect mechanical form, off either leg, and hammer one-timers home from the faceoff circle. Don’t go discounting Šalé’s hands, either. His ability to corral difficult passes and blend his first touch into highly skilled handling moves at speed is through the roof“
Coachella has a lot of young talent on the team. Chances he comes back is higher then I thought
 

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Almost didn’t post this!

Dreaming here because the 07’s are off the table, but I’m bored.

Would anyone out there lose their minds if we did a primarily player for player type deal with minimal picks to put us over the top?

Erie has done nothing yet and their good 04’s should be likely OA’s next year. So this is unlikely. Most contenders are done dealing for the most part.

So in the spirit of that OS / Guelph Nick Suzuki trade, would this curl your toes?

To Kitchener:
D- Spencer Sova
C- Pano Fimis

To Erie:
Romano
Campbell
Ellinas
5th’25
6th’26
6th’27

Swick*. Rehkopf. Mesar.
Martin. Sop. Miseljevic*.
Sale. Fimis*. Lam.
Bottineau. Mercer. Pugilese*.
Stark.

Brzustewicz. Andonovski.
Motew. Sova*.
Savard. Reid.
Dirracolo.

Parsons*.
Malboeuf.

The * players would be very good to high end OA’s next year we could move for good return in a rebuild. We’d keep three and move three or four.

Don’t worry. I know it ain’t happening!

Just one last spitball of the trade season from me!!
 

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But a more believable ask, would Okintundu be a cheap option as a third pairing vet?

Or is he a pim machine?

He’s been moved a couple times for low return.

Would a Campbell to Brantford for Okintundu + a pick or two be doable? It’s the least Brantford could do for stealing Hamara from us via the Senators.
 
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Question? The guys that get put on waivers after the deadline. Are they usually all OA or is there ever any 19 year olds ?

But a more believable ask, would Okintundu be a cheap option as a third pairing vet?

Or is he a pim machine?

He’s been moved a couple times for low return.
A lot of misconducts and after whistle stuff. Been like that since he played for Waterloo
 
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Almost didn’t post this!

Dreaming here because the 07’s are off the table, but I’m bored.

Would anyone out there lose their minds if we did a primarily player for player type deal with minimal picks to put us over the top?

Erie has done nothing yet and their good 04’s should be likely OA’s next year. So this is unlikely. Most contenders are done dealing for the most part.

So in the spirit of that OS / Guelph Nick Suzuki trade, would this curl your toes?

To Kitchener:
D- Spencer Sova
C- Pano Fimis

To Erie:
Romano
Campbell
Ellinas
5th’25
6th’26
6th’27

Swick*. Rehkopf. Mesar.
Martin. Sop. Miseljevic*.
Sale. Fimis*. Lam.
Bottineau. Mercer. Pugilese*.
Stark.

Brzustewicz. Andonovski.
Motew. Sova*.
Savard. Reid.
Dirracolo.

Parsons*.
Malboeuf.

The * players would be very good to high end OA’s next year we could move for good return in a rebuild. We’d keep three and move three or four.

Don’t worry. I know it ain’t happening!

Just one last spitball of the trade season from me!!

Little too rich for me. I’ve been preaching 2 forward adds. We got Sale and I’ve been saying 1 more to replace Ellinas. After considering…. I’m fine with Ellinas as the 9th forward. I would really like to add that 5th D though.

Sova
For
Campbell and picks.

I’m down for that.
 
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I have no issues with Motew. I think he is an underrated player. A solid OHL player.

Almost didn’t post this!

Dreaming here because the 07’s are off the table, but I’m bored.

Would anyone out there lose their minds if we did a primarily player for player type deal with minimal picks to put us over the top?

Erie has done nothing yet and their good 04’s should be likely OA’s next year. So this is unlikely. Most contenders are done dealing for the most part.

So in the spirit of that OS / Guelph Nick Suzuki trade, would this curl your toes?

To Kitchener:
D- Spencer Sova
C- Pano Fimis

To Erie:
Romano
Campbell
Ellinas
5th’25
6th’26
6th’27

Swick*. Rehkopf. Mesar.
Martin. Sop. Miseljevic*.
Sale. Fimis*. Lam.
Bottineau. Mercer. Pugilese*.
Stark.

Brzustewicz. Andonovski.
Motew. Sova*.
Savard. Reid.
Dirracolo.

Parsons*.
Malboeuf.

The * players would be very good to high end OA’s next year we could move for good return in a rebuild. We’d keep three and move three or four.

Don’t worry. I know it ain’t happening!

Just one last spitball of the trade season from me!!

Almost didn’t post this!

Dreaming here because the 07’s are off the table, but I’m bored.

Would anyone out there lose their minds if we did a primarily player for player type deal with minimal picks to put us over the top?

Erie has done nothing yet and their good 04’s should be likely OA’s next year. So this is unlikely. Most contenders are done dealing for the most part.

So in the spirit of that OS / Guelph Nick Suzuki trade, would this curl your toes?

To Kitchener:
D- Spencer Sova
C- Pano Fimis

To Erie:
Romano
Campbell
Ellinas
5th’25
6th’26
6th’27

Swick*. Rehkopf. Mesar.
Martin. Sop. Miseljevic*.
Sale. Fimis*. Lam.
Bottineau. Mercer. Pugilese*.
Stark.

Brzustewicz. Andonovski.
Motew. Sova*.
Savard. Reid.
Dirracolo.

Parsons*.
Malboeuf.

The * players would be very good to high end OA’s next year we could move for good return in a rebuild. We’d keep three and move three or four.

Don’t worry. I know it ain’t happening!

Just one last spitball of the trade season from me!!
Imma fight U
 

EvenSteven

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Little too rich for me. I’ve been preaching 2 forward adds. We got Sale and I’ve been saying 1 more to replace Ellinas. After considering…. I’m fine with Ellinas as the 9th forward. I would really like to add that 5th D though.

Sova
For
Campbell and picks.

I’m down for that.
I would be too. But to move Sova, we’ll need more than Campbell and picks. That’s why I included Romano and had Sova and Fimis coming back.

Anyone who’s trading a 1st rounder has already done so. Romano, Campbell and Ellinas likely trumps another bidder’s 2nds and 3rds.

I like Ellinas, but Fimis this year and next trumps him. Especially the return we’d get if we moved the OA at the next deadline.

To ease the pain of moving Romano, and Ellinas and Campbell for that matter, we have a ton of movable graduating assets next year. We wouldn’t miss a beat.
 

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I’ll chip in on the D talk even tho I believe they’re done.
Ty Henry 06 Erie
Brayden Villaris 05 petes
Finn Harding 05 Sauga
Noah Roberts 05 brantford
Any Guelph defenceman
 
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Almost didn’t post this!

Dreaming here because the 07’s are off the table, but I’m bored.

Would anyone out there lose their minds if we did a primarily player for player type deal with minimal picks to put us over the top?

Erie has done nothing yet and their good 04’s should be likely OA’s next year. So this is unlikely. Most contenders are done dealing for the most part.

So in the spirit of that OS / Guelph Nick Suzuki trade, would this curl your toes?

To Kitchener:
D- Spencer Sova
C- Pano Fimis

To Erie:
Romano
Campbell
Ellinas
5th’25
6th’26
6th’27

Swick*. Rehkopf. Mesar.
Martin. Sop. Miseljevic*.
Sale. Fimis*. Lam.
Bottineau. Mercer. Pugilese*.
Stark.

Brzustewicz. Andonovski.
Motew. Sova*.
Savard. Reid.
Dirracolo.

Parsons*.
Malboeuf.

The * players would be very good to high end OA’s next year we could move for good return in a rebuild. We’d keep three and move three or four.

Don’t worry. I know it ain’t happening!

Just one last spitball of the trade season from me!!
I'm not that familiar with Fimis (or Sova) but I think it's a pretty big stretch comparing him to Suzuki ( or Suzuki type deal). I know we could recover some picks next season but giving up a first rounder seems like a lot.

When you have to deal that many OAs going into camp you're not dealing from a position of strength.
 

EvenSteven

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I'm not that familiar with Fimis (or Sova) but I think it's a pretty big stretch comparing him to Suzuki ( or Suzuki type deal). I know we could recover some picks next season but giving up a first rounder seems like a lot.

When you have to deal that many OAs going into camp you're not dealing from a position of strength.
Not comparing either to Suzuki. Not even a little.

Just the deal being in the last minute, unexpectedness of the deal.

Hamilton dealt their returning OA’s just fine a couple years ago.
 
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I'm not that familiar with Fimis (or Sova) but I think it's a pretty big stretch comparing him to Suzuki ( or Suzuki type deal). I know we could recover some picks next season but giving up a first rounder seems like a lot.

When you have to deal that many OAs going into camp you're not dealing from a position of strength.
Fimis has the best faceoff % in the OHL. The talk in Erie is next year they intend on competing for a title. I don't see it with their limited assets. While they could afford to trade one 04, trading two would leave them with just two viable OA candidates for next season.
 

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I think a 2 part trade would be a solid option as well.

Now
Sova (any vet dman) for picks

Off-season
Swick or Misa for picks
 

EvenSteven

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It’s not hard to move quality OA’s.

There will be a bunch of teams trying to sell off OA players next season. It will be a challenge for GMs to find homes for all these players. Credit to MM for strengthening the Rangers and keeping the 07s at this deadline.
 
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Any chance of free agent signing Max Dirracolo being good enough for a 3rd pairing w Reid for the playoffs?

I like some of his game and compete so far in the northern swing. He didn't back down and wasn't exposed alot, granted w limited minutes
Dirracolo will be a work in progress but if he has the work ethic of Xhekaj, he should develop into a dependable, hard hitting D.
 

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It’s not hard to move quality OA’s.
The point is the value. If the market is flooded the value won't be as great. A bunch of teams will have quality OAs will they not?

Dirracolo will be a work in progress but if he has the work ethic of Xhekaj, he should develop into a dependable, hard hitting D.
Dirracollo looks like he is going to be a tough kid. He won't be pushed around. Be great clearing opposing players around the net. Good point!
 
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Truth be told, I know that Martin would be a big playoff performer. But, I fear for his ability to stay healthy long term. Also, Swick has been able to replace a lot of what we’ve missed with Martin out.

So, with the Sale deal likely an eventuality before the OA deadline passed, had we done Martin, 3rd, 6th for Punnett, I think we’d be much better prepared for a deep post season run.

Then in the Sale deal, swap out a late pick for Morey to keep him around for 4th line depth.

Swick. Rehkopf. Mesar.
Sale. Sop. Miseljevic.
Bottineau. Mercer. Pugilese.
Ellinas. Morey. Lam.
Romano. Stark.

Brzustewicz. Andonovski.
Punnet. Savard.
Motew. Reid.
Campbell. Dirracolo.

It’s a lot easier to shorten the bench up front late in games than on the backend when the backend is thin. Lam and Ellinas have shown they can sub in among the top six here and there in the event of injury. That third line likely plays many more minutes than a traditional 4th line.


We need quantity along with quality from that draft class. A good supporting cast to the 07’s.
There can be only one Sheriff…but Punnett from what I’ve seen could have been his Deputy. Tough as nails, plays almost 25 mins a night and deal with any shenanigans against any of his teammates.
 
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