Kitchener Rangers 2023-24 Off-Season Thread (Part 1)

[RangerNation]

I thought they played better as the game went on. Definitely a winnable game. Parsons with two softies. Terrible PP on the 5min. Wow.

All in all I don't hate my life after that game. Very good playoff hockey!

 

[LDN]

Sorry, 3rd liner, and I certainly think it is suspendable but won't be. Very dangerous hit on an unsuspecting player.

Fair. The question is should the player have not put themself in a vulnerable position perhaps it wouldn’t be considered a blindside. We shall see what the league decides.

 

[Slowpace]

Not like it really matters as he's a 4th liner, but does O'Reilly get any more games for that textbook blindside?

O'Reilly not a 4th liner, likely 2nd round NHL pick according to rankings.

 

[robertmac43]

I don’t think it’s suspendedable.

Feels like the exact hit they want out of the game, wouldn't be surprised if gets 1.

 

[TheBlueMonster]

Got to cash in on a 5 min pp in the 3rd.

Found way to many guys standing around. Power play isn't mobile (How many times does london have a d 5 feet from parsons and the puck doesn't go the other way) almost never lol.

That back end could really use Andrew Macneil right now but the Otters are going to likely be heading for the Sutherland Cup in the GOJHL.

Londons PP is clean, crisp, hard passes and they are mobile. Never just standing around.

Kitchener is just slow, and if the puck goes the other way, nobody seams to give a sh*t

A fine game. Not the end of the world but need to start making in game adjustments

 

[bobber]

4th liner?! I don’t think it’s suspendedable.

What does a 4th liner have to do with a dirty head check? League has been handing out 4-5 games far less. Type of dirty hit you want out of the game. Isn't Bolton a 4th liner?

 

[robertmac43]

Londons PP is clean, crisp, hard passes and they are mobile. Never just standing around.

I think this goes for everything they do. Crisp and clean.

It's a well drilled team.

 

[Jives]

As far as I remember Savard didn’t turn or make a last minute adjustment on his angle. His numbers were always facing O’Reilly. How is it not suspendable? It’s a clear hit from behind that resulted in an injury. Is it just not suspension worthy cause it’s a London player?

 

[bobber]

Got to cash in on a 5 min pp in the 3rd.

Found way to many guys standing around. Power play isn't mobile (How many times does london have a d 5 feet from parsons and the puck doesn't go the other way) almost never lol.

That back end could really use Andrew Macneil right now but the Otters are going to likely be heading for the Sutherland Cup in the GOJHL.

Londons PP is clean, crisp, hard passes and they are mobile. Never just standing around.

Kitchener is just slow, and if the puck goes the other way, nobody seams to give a sh*t

A fine game. Not the end of the world but need to start making in game adjustments

Love that sentence about Kitchener being slow. Knights do havecsome speedy players.

 

[Slowpace]

I give up. When you have calls like that goal what chance do you really have.

Per Otto on the London board:

OHL Rule 63.7

63.7 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either
deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck
crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts,
the Referee may award a goal.

In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have
been displaced by the actions of a defending player, the attacking
player must have an imminent scoring opportunity prior to the goal
post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would
have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.

 

[robertmac43]

The London goal instantly reminded me of this from Gio.

 

[RangerNation]

Per Otto on the London board:

OHL Rule 63.7

63.7 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either
deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck
crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts,
the Referee may award a goal.

In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have
been displaced by the actions of a defending player, the attacking
player must have an imminent scoring opportunity prior to the goal
post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would
have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.

Hmm. Looks to me like it would have at least hit the inside of the goal post, no? Now the question is, was the puck fully over where the post would have been.

 

[Krangers08]

Šalé and Ellinas are feeling it right now.

 

[rve24]

Feels like the exact hit they want out of the game, wouldn't be surprised if gets 1.

I can see anywhere from 0-2 from the league. Who knows.

 

[Geff]

Isn't Bolton a 4th liner?

5th liner. he only sees every other 4th line shift. Let’s be fair. He has been invisible in the plays he’s on the ice for in the playoffs. He’s there only if things get out of hand and intimidation.

 

[EvenSteven]

Per Otto on the London board:

OHL Rule 63.7

63.7 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either
deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck
crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts,
the Referee may award a goal.

In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have
been displaced by the actions of a defending player, the attacking
player must have an imminent scoring opportunity prior to the goal
post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would
have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.

Umm, the way that rule reads, Barkey would have had to have had the puck on his stick before the net was dislodged. The net became dislodged when Parsons pushed off the post to get to the other side of the net to stop the wrap around.

The net was already off when Parsons made the wrap around save, causing the rebound that went to Barkey.

According to the rule, for the goal to count, Barkey needed to have the puck in an imminent scoring opportunity before Parsons pushed off the post. He did not. The player who was attempting the wrap around was the attacking player.

Goal should not have counted.

 

[Krangers08]

Cameron Arquette’s leamington flyers were eliminated tonight. He can join for the rest of playoffs if needed. Macniel is still alive in the finals and cannot be called up. Might be running 5 D 13 F Saturday if Savard is hurt.

 

[All the Answers]

Umm, the way that rule reads, Barkey would have had to have had the puck on his stick before the net was dislodged. The net became dislodged when Parsons pushed off the post to get to the other side of the net to stop the wrap around.

The net was already off when Parsons made the wrap around save, causing the rebound that went to Barkey.

According to the rule, for the goal to count, Barkey needed to have the puck in an imminent scoring opportunity before Parsons pushed off the post. He did not. The player who was attempting the wrap around was the attacking player.

Goal should not have counted.

100% this. The wraparound had to go in, net was already off at that save. How long do you wait?

 

[EvenSteven]

Cameron Arquette’s leamington flyers were eliminated tonight. He can join for the rest of playoffs if needed. Macniel is still alive in the finals and cannot be called up. Might be running 5 D 13 F Saturday if Savard is hurt.

No disrespect, but we’re going to need a lot more than CA to have a chance at winning this series.

I thought our thin D was going to be the problem. Geez we were sub par all over the ice.

 

[Krangers08]

No disrespect, but we’re going to need a lot more than CA to have a chance at winning this series.

I thought our thin D was going to be the problem. Geez we were sub par all over the ice.

Was just mentioning it as a option if offensive injuries occur

 

[Kingpin794]

Umm, the way that rule reads, Barkey would have had to have had the puck on his stick before the net was dislodged. The net became dislodged when Parsons pushed off the post to get to the other side of the net to stop the wrap around.

The net was already off when Parsons made the wrap around save, causing the rebound that went to Barkey.

According to the rule, for the goal to count, Barkey needed to have the puck in an imminent scoring opportunity before Parsons pushed off the post. He did not. The player who was attempting the wrap around was the attacking player.

Goal should not have counted.

That's my take too. It wasn't an "imminent" play. Had to finish coming around the net, make a pass, and then had to get a shot off.

 

[bobber]

5th liner. he only sees every other 4th line shift. Let’s be fair. He has been invisible in the plays he’s on the ice for in the playoffs. He’s there only if things get out of hand and intimidation.

That wasn't the point at all.

 

[bobber]

Per Otto on the London board:

OHL Rule 63.7

63.7 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either
deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck
crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts,
the Referee may award a goal.

In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have
been displaced by the actions of a defending player, the attacking
player must have an imminent scoring opportunity prior to the goal
post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would
have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.

If the goal was in Rangers favour I am sure there would be a rule to disregard it found and posted. Goal should not have counted period. Just another controversy added to the plethora of other issues created by poor reffing over this season.

 

[TheBlueMonster]

Do we still have the rights to Gabriel Runco? If we're down a D or two could he be eligible to play games?

 

[nelli27]

I won't repeat my longwinded explanation (that's on the Knights thread), but the Barkey goal should not have counted as many of you noted (long before me). Initially, I thought the ref was merely following the rule, but it's clear that he didn't apply it correctly.
That's all I got....I'll show myself out.