Kitchener Rangers 2022 Off-season Thread

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HABitual Fan

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For what it's worth, at the press conference Hughes was asked about where he will play next year. He said they want him to keep developing and be able to play on a PP unit, and said if that is not possible in Laval, they will send him to Kitchener, but no decision has been made yet.
 
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If you are looking for a 1% return on your investment, I'm not sure that can be considered smart money.
Except this was totally free money and why not take the chance?
Not sure why this is even being debated since it didn't cost anything listing Cajan as an OA.
Wonder what would be said if Cajan was unprotected then didn't sign his pro contract and then came back to the O as a free agent. I'm sure MM would get blasted for not protecting him at no cost and missed out on some form of compensation.
 

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And because Mesar is 18 and an import, they can assign him to the AHL.

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If you are looking for a 1% return on your investment, I'm not sure that can be considered smart money.

1 percent is better then 0.

Except this was totally free money and why not take the chance?
Not sure why this is even being debated since it didn't cost anything listing Cajan as an OA.
Wonder what would be said if Cajan was unprotected then didn't sign his pro contract and then came back to the O as a free agent. I'm sure MM would get blasted for not protecting him at no cost and missed out on some form of compensation.

Only debate is league value. Its easy to say, 'yes, lets trade him', problem being is legit not realistic, OA/Imports dont get traded, let alone OA/Import goalies.
 

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The offer has to be pretty good from Kitchener for him to consider it, no playing third or fourth fiddle to Kitchener’s OHL grown talent. It would be a disaster if he was given the Olausson treatment.
That's a surprise, I would have figured he'd be a lock for Kitchener.
 

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That's a surprise, I would have figured he'd be a lock for Kitchener.
I mean Hughes says he wants lots of ice time in all situations for him and if he isn’t cut out for that in Laval, he’d go to Kitchener. Will Kitchener give him that over their own drafted players? That’s why I referenced the Olausson situation, who should’ve stayed back home in Sweden in hindsight
 

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I mean Hughes says he wants lots of ice time in all situations for him and if he isn’t cut out for that in Laval, he’d go to Kitchener. Will Kitchener give him that over their own drafted players? That’s why I referenced the Olausson situation, who should’ve stayed back home in Sweden in hindsight

I would think he would be their second best forward at worst.
 

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The offer has to be pretty good from Kitchener for him to consider it, no playing third or fourth fiddle to Kitchener’s OHL grown talent. It would be a disaster if he was given the Olausson treatment.
The offer is as many minutes possible. Mesar will get first line, first PP immediately. He's a high impact first rounder. I don't really think there is any hesitation from MacKenzie to let this be known to Hughes.
 

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He would get plenty of minutes.

Pinelli / Mesar- top 2 forwards
Serpa / Valade - next 2
Martin / Rehkopf - next 2
The rest - next 6

Yes…Rehkopf will be better when he is 19 vs Serpa and Valade but right now as a 17 year old he isn’t as good as those 2.
 

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Will Kitchener give him that over their own drafted players? That’s why I referenced the Olausson situation, who should’ve stayed back home in Sweden in hindsight
We had a Swedish player here a few years ago that was a Colorado 1st rounder like Olausson & I think there’s strong general consensus that we did alright by him ;) I expect Mesar would have every opportunity that Montreal stipulates.

I mean Hughes says he wants lots of ice time in all situations for him and if he isn’t cut out for that in Laval,
The Habs need to gauge where Mesar is at in a North American pro hockey context and relative to their current talent pool so he'll surely get a long look at both camps. Dropping right onto an AHL roster for a season and immediately thriving enough to draw top 6 shifts is a tall order. Mesar could seemingly benefit from time to physically mature and strengthen before he's subjected to the endless waves of big AHL bruisers running him all game too.
 

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He would get plenty of minutes.

Pinelli / Mesar- top 2 forwards
Serpa / Valade - next 2
Martin / Rehkopf - next 2
The rest - next 6

Yes…Rehkopf will be better when he is 19 vs Serpa and Valade but right now as a 17 year old he isn’t as good as those 2.

Rehkopt was playing the point on the PP toward the end of last year. I can see him staying in that role for now.
 

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Rehkopt was playing the point on the PP toward the end of last year. I can see him staying in that role for now.
He’ll see time there, but you have to think Brzustewicz will walk into the PP1 QB spot. And Schmidt will be looking for PP time too.
 
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K2 said:

The Habs need to gauge where Mesar is at in a North American pro hockey context and relative to their current talent pool so he'll surely get a long look at both camps. Dropping right onto an AHL roster for a season and immediately thriving enough to draw top 6 shifts is a tall order. Mesar could seemingly benefit from time to physically mature and strengthen before he's subjected to the endless waves of big AHL bruisers running him all game too.


I believe this is the important thing for Mesar. I've already lost the link to an article on Montreal's first two draft picks ( :) ), but as for Mesar, it was stated that this year it was important for Mesar to gain muscle and experience on the smaller NHL ice surface. Mind you it did mention that he needed to gain this experience against "men" (paraphrasing a bit here"). So of course the question is whether or not Montreal is willing to give him that opportunity to develop those needs at a higher level than junior.
 

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Ottawa signed Tomas Hamara to an ELC also. All signs point to him playing in Kitchener next year

Really hoping that you're right on that one.

Not sure of the odds, but the signing all of the "big four" (for lack of better description) - Mesar, Hamara, Hage and Veremyev - could make this a much improved team. Veremyev coming to Kitchener may be a bit of a stretch, and of course Hage isn't a Ranger unless (until?) he signs.
 

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Ottawa signed Tomas Hamara to an ELC also. All signs point to him playing in Kitchener next year
Looks like he is signed until 2024 in Tappara. Not sure how the legality of this works, but if MacKenzie knew he was locked up, why waste the pick?

"In all likelihood, Ottawa will loan Hamara back to Tappara for the next two seasons, as he’s under contract there until 2024. He’s also a more raw prospect, and he likely needs some more conditioning before he’s even ready for AHL ice."
 

EvenSteven

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Veremyev coming to Kitchener may be a bit of a stretch
Have to think he’s coming here.

He isn’t NHL drafted after two NHL drafts. There doesn’t seem to be an NCAA option or he’d be there by now at his age.

If he has any interest of possibly going pro, he likely needs to get into a better league to possibly get drafted as a 19-year-old or at least earn an invite to a pro camp.

Looks like he is signed until 2024 in Tappara. Not sure how the legality of this works, but if MacKenzie knew he was locked up, why waste the pick?

"In all likelihood, Ottawa will loan Hamara back to Tappara for the next two seasons, as he’s under contract there until 2024.
I have no idea, but aren’t those types of contracts routinely broken if the player wants to come to North America?
 
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The offer has to be pretty good from Kitchener for him to consider it, no playing third or fourth fiddle to Kitchener’s OHL grown talent. It would be a disaster if he was given the Olausson treatment.
All players should want the Olausson treatment. Olausson was used on PP1 and given more opportunity in the top six than a player with no desire to be an all situation player deserved in Barrie imo; then at the trade deadline, he was moved to a Gens team that hoped he could assist a long playoff run in Tulio’s final season.
 

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I would think he would be their second best forward at worst.
As per MM in June 2021.....

And the club, which had the ninth overall selection in Wednesday’s draft, feels it snagged a real difference maker in Slovakian forward Filip Mesar.

“He’s a guy you can slot into your top line or top two lines and that you can pair with other good players and he would be a huge addition,” said McKenzie.
 

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I have no idea, but aren’t those types of contracts routinely broken if the player wants to come to North America?
Signing with Ottawa means Hamara's pro rights belong to Ottawa now and he will have been 'transacted out' of any Tappara contractual arrangement ($). The ball is in Ottawa's court and they will re-assign as they wish with input from all involved. This is where MM goes to work.

Default option is to loan him back for more time with Tappara where he's done well but he could come here, Belleville, etc after he gets some eval in camps. Tappara has a fluid prospect pipeline too which may well be reliant on departures ;)
 

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On Hamara, I think there's a 95% chance he comes to Kitchener. The Rangers have acknowledged there's a good chance and as a D in that Ottawa system, he's a 3-4 year project. Playing at least one year here makes too much sense.

As for the interpretation of Hughes' comments on Mesar, I took it as they really want his offensive game to continue to develop and for him to get lots of offensive opportunities. Unless he slots into Laval's top-6, Kitchener will be the better option. And even if he starts in Laval for a few weeks, I'd expect at some point, Kitchener will become the better option and he'll be sent here. Unless he is really productive in the AHL consistently, I think there's a very good chance we see him here by December at the latest.
 

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On Hamara, I think there's a 95% chance he comes to Kitchener. The Rangers have acknowledged there's a good chance and as a D in that Ottawa system, he's a 3-4 year project. Playing at least one year here makes too much sense.

As for the interpretation of Hughes' comments on Mesar, I took it as they really want his offensive game to continue to develop and for him to get lots of offensive opportunities. Unless he slots into Laval's top-6, Kitchener will be the better option. And even if he starts in Laval for a few weeks, I'd expect at some point, Kitchener will become the better option and he'll be sent here. Unless he is really productive in the AHL consistently, I think there's a very good chance we see him here by December at the latest.
And as noted earlier, MM sees Mesar as a top line forward. I'm sure he's been on the phone etc with Montreal and making a solid case to come to Kitchener.
 
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